Oblivion crashes at startup load : IV

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:01 am

Hey guys, I recently tried to get back into Oblivion after playing other games for a while but it is fighting me every step of the way. Even after a reinstall and a purging of the documents folder, it still won't go past the loading screen. I know it's not loading because after I timed 20 minutes, the bar had not moved an inch.

Without further delay, here is my load order:

Oblivion.esm
Jog_X_Mod.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
MD_Saddle_Master.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
TamrielTravellers.esm
FCOM_Convergence.esm
Armamentarium.esm
Artifacts.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
bookplacing.esm
Progress.esm
CLS-Craftybits.esm
CM Partners.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
0 (DC)A Saints Tale Master.esm
bookplacing.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
MOBS SI.esp
MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp
Better Cities .esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp
Fran Armor Add-on.esp
Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
Arthur_Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
IWR-Lights.esp
IWR-Windows.esp
IWR-Shutters.esp
IWR - Windows Lights Shutters - Optimised.esp
Portable Campsite.esp
Enhanced Economy.esp
moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp
Map Marker Overhaul.esp
Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
Reznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].esp
SentientWeapon.esp
Thieves Arsenal.esp
Mage Equipment.esp
StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp
MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp
ExnemRuneskulls.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
FCOM_BobsArmory.esp
Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
FCOM_WarCry.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OMOBS.esp
OMOBS_SI.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
FCOM_Convergence.esp
FCOM_RealSwords.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp
Mart's Monster Mod.esp
TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp
TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp
ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp
TIE In.esp
TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp
Fransfemale.esp
OOO-WaterFish.esp
KnightlyArmory.esp
Ivellon.esp
AddisHeadhunterMod EV.esp
allinonebasemant_COBLnoCM.esp
Artifacts.esp
delivery_job.esp
JolardHome.esp
JSRandomTasks.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp
OldCrowInn.esp
thievery.esp
Valley_View_Estate.esp
VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
za_bankmod.esp
24HrArenaAliveV2.esp
Arena_BattlesV1.2EV.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCfrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
TOTF.esp
RTT.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
SoT_TheOrderofNibenay.esp
Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp
The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp
HoarfrostCastle.esp
BrewHouse.esp
Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
MTCThievesGrottoV4.1.esp
HeartOftheDead.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp
P1DkeyChain.esp
Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp
ATakesAll.esp
CLS-Craftybits.esp
CLS-CB-Cobl.esp
Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp
quickstart.esp
Mighty Magick - Core.esp
Mighty Magick - Magicka Pool Progression.esp
MidasSpells.esp
attack and hide medium v2.1.esp
StealthOverhaul.esp
StealthOverhaul, Cobl.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
ProgressGSD.esp
ProgressMBSP.esp
ProgressSBSP.esp
ProgressRBSP.esp
ProgressRacial.esp
ProgressArmorer.esp
Beautiful People.esp
Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp
CM Partners.esp
CM Partners NPC.esp
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
Cobl Races.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - Brew House.esp
Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp
Better Cities - Knightly Armory.esp
Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp
Better Cities - Thievery.esp
Better Cities - Valley View Estate.esp
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp
Better Cities - Old Crow Inn.esp
Better Cities - COBL.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
TheOubliette.esp
[GFX]_Initial_Glow-self.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp
Adventure Pack 1.esp
Lutherane.esp
Adventure Pack 2.esp

Please help! I really wanna play but my desire is fading.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:38 am

Did you run that load oerder through BOSS? It looks okay, but I have to check as a first step. Also, what OBSE plugins are you running?

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:20 am

Silent Voice and NIFScript.

And yeah, I ran it through BOSS but I just updated it and I got a new load order:

DLCSpellTomes.esp
Reznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].esp
SentientWeapon.esp
Thieves Arsenal.esp
Mage Equipment.esp
StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp
MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp
ExnemRuneskulls.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
FCOM_BobsArmory.esp
Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
FCOM_WarCry.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OMOBS.esp
OMOBS_SI.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
FCOM_Convergence.esp
FCOM_RealSwords.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp
TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp
TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp
ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp
TIE In.esp
TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp
Fransfemale.esp
OOO-WaterFish.esp
KnightlyArmory.esp
Ivellon.esp
AddisHeadhunterMod EV.esp
allinonebasemant_COBLnoCM.esp
Artifacts.esp
JolardHome.esp
JSRandomTasks.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp
OldCrowInn.esp
thievery.esp
Valley_View_Estate.esp
VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
za_bankmod.esp
24HrArenaAliveV2.esp
Arena_BattlesV1.2EV.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCfrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
TOTF.esp
RTT.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
SoT_TheOrderofNibenay.esp
Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp
The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp
HoarfrostCastle.esp
BrewHouse.esp
Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
MTCThievesGrottoV4.1.esp
HeartOftheDead.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp
P1DkeyChain.esp
Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp
ATakesAll.esp
CLS-Craftybits.esp
CLS-CB-Cobl.esp
Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp
quickstart.esp
Mighty Magick - Core.esp
Mighty Magick - Magicka Pool Progression.esp
MidasSpells.esp
attack and hide medium v2.1.esp
StealthOverhaul.esp
StealthOverhaul, Cobl.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
ProgressGSD.esp
ProgressMBSP.esp
ProgressSBSP.esp
ProgressRBSP.esp
ProgressRacial.esp
ProgressArmorer.esp
Beautiful People.esp
Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp
CM Partners.esp
CM Partners NPC.esp
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
Cobl Races.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - Brew House.esp
Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp
Better Cities - Knightly Armory.esp
Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp
Better Cities - Thievery.esp
Better Cities - Valley View Estate.esp
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp
Better Cities - Old Crow Inn.esp
Better Cities - COBL.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
TheOubliette.esp
[GFX]_Initial_Glow-self.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Adventure Pack 1.esp
Lutherane.esp

Also, I just disabled the Frostcrag UOP because I have Frostcrag Reborn installed.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:11 am

Crash on startup is usually a missing master. Everything looks ok in Wrye Bash? Did you rename the Frans BSA files correctly?

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:15 am

Other then some merged mods missing masters (what), it looks okay.

As for the BSA's, I wasn't aware I had to rename them.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:55 am

This sounds almost exactly like something that was happening to me and it's got me wondering...try disabling Jog_X_Mod.esm and thievery.esp (can't have that active without Jog_X_Mod.esm) and loading again see if that changes anything?

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:56 am

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

That did it! Thanks dude!

Is Theivery broken or something?

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:20 am

I'm not sure to be exact but it seems there's a little problem going on with it and the bash patch, if you activate it again and de-active the bash patch it will probably load successfully again but the two of them active at the same time is causing a freeze on the loading screen, I can't be sure if it's happening to anyone else but it did to me now to you so something is going wrong somewhere.

Might be a good idea to bring this up in the Wrye Bash thread so they can look into it seen as it wasn't happening with previous versions.

Glad you got it going now though

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:33 am

Looks like I spoke too soon. While I can now get past the menu, it crashes when I load a save game.

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:36 pm

Ahh that's not good...I can't really help on the save game part as when it was happening to me I hadn't actually started a new game yet therefore had no saves...try starting a new game make sure you can actually get the game going, if that works try de-activating the bash patch and loading your save again or rolling back a few saves and see if any of them loads.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:15 am

Oh wait, derp. I forgot to reenable the bash patch.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:53 am

I had the same issue. See here.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1162212-new-install-wont-load/page__p__17065661#entry17065661

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:34 am

I had the same issue. See here.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1162212-new-install-wont-load/page__p__17065661#entry17065661

Except that it wasn't the same issue. Wonder what's up with Jog_X_Mod.esm and thievery.esp?

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:21 am

Hmm, I don't have that option enabled.

However, here is my load order from Bash, incase it helps more:

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  MD_Saddle_Master.esm04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm08  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0B  Artifacts.esm0C  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm0D  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.8.4]0E  bookplacing.esm0F  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]10  CLS-Craftybits.esm11  CM Partners.esm12  HorseCombatMaster.esm13  0 (DC)A Saints Tale Master.esm14  bookplacing.esp15  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.1]16  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp17  DLCShiveringIsles.esp18  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]19  MOBS SI.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]1A  MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]1B  Better Cities .esp1C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp1D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp1E  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp1F  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]20  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]21  Fran Armor Add-on.esp22  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp23  Arthur_Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp24  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp25  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp26  IWR-Lights.esp27  IWR-Windows.esp28  IWR-Shutters.esp29  IWR - Windows Lights Shutters - Optimised.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]2A  Portable Campsite.esp2B  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.3.1]2C  moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp2D  Streamline 3.1.esp2E  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.6]2F  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]30  DLCHorseArmor.esp31  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]32  DLCOrrery.esp33  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]34  DLCVileLair.esp35  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]36  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp37  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]38  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp39  Reznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].esp3A  SentientWeapon.esp  [Version 3]3B  Thieves Arsenal.esp3C  Mage Equipment.esp3D  StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp3E  MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp3F  DLCThievesDen.esp40  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]41  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]42  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]43  ExnemRuneskulls.esp++  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]44  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]45  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]46  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp47  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]48  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]49  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.08a]4A  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]4B  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]4C  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]4D  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]4E  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]4F  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]50  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]51  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]52  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]53  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]54  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]55  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]56  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]57  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_ArcheryArmamentarium.esp  [Version 2]58  TIE In.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - Cobl.esp  [Version 1.2b]59  TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - RealSwords.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - MMM Craft.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]5A  Fransfemale.esp5B  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]5C  KnightlyArmory.esp5D  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]5E  AddisHeadhunterMod EV.esp5F  allinonebasemant_COBLnoCM.esp60  Artifacts.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]61  JolardHome.esp  [Version 4.7.0]62  JSRandomTasks.esp  [Version 1.1a]63  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp64  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp65  OldCrowInn.esp  [Version 1.5]66  Valley_View_Estate.esp67  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp68  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp69  za_bankmod.esp6A  24HrArenaAliveV2.esp6B  Arena_BattlesV1.2EV.esp6C  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp6D  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]6E  DLCfrostcrag.esp6F  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp70  Knights.esp71  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]++  TIE In - Knights.esp  [Version 1.2b]72  TOTF.esp73  RTT.esp74  The Lost Spires.esp75  SoT_TheOrderofNibenay.esp76  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.4]77  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp78  HoarfrostCastle.esp++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]79  BrewHouse.esp7A  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp++  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  EDI - Aggression Fix.esp7B  MTCThievesGrottoV4.1.esp7C  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.2]++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]7D  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp7E  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]7F  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]80  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]81  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]82  ATakesAll.esp83  CLS-Craftybits.esp84  CLS-CB-Cobl.esp85  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]++  TIE In - DLCOrrery.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - DLCThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 1.2b]86  quickstart.esp87  Mighty Magick - Core.esp  [Version 1.2]88  Mighty Magick - Magicka Pool Progression.esp  [Version 1.2]89  MidasSpells.esp++  MidasSpells - MMR Patch.esp8A  attack and hide medium v2.1.esp8B  StealthOverhaul.esp8C  StealthOverhaul, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.2]8D  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp8E  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp8F  ProgressGSD.esp  [Version 2.0]90  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]91  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]92  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]93  ProgressRacial.esp94  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]95  Beautiful People.esp96  Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp97  CM Partners.esp98  CM Partners NPC.esp99  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp9A  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]9B  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.8.4]9C  Better Cities - Brew House.esp  [Version 4.7.0]9D  Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp  [Version 4.8.0]9E  Better Cities - Knightly Armory.esp  [Version 4.8.4]9F  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp  [Version 4.7.0]A0  Better Cities - Valley View Estate.esp  [Version 4.7.0]A1  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]A2  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.8.4]A3  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 4.7.0]A4  Better Cities - Old Crow Inn.esp  [Version 4.7.0]A5  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]A6  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp  [Version 4.7.0]A7  TheOubliette.espA8  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-self.espA9  Bashed Patch, 0.espAA  Adventure Pack 1.espAB  Lutherane.espAC  Adventure Pack 2.esp

Edit: Ok, so I'm back to square one after enabling the bash patch. Can't get past the menu.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:38 am

Bump.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:50 am

Do you have Mayu's Animation Overhaul Skeleton Tweaker checked? If so, I've read that that can prevent the game from loading. You may have to bite the bullet and do the good ol' individual mod loading routine. Build your BP one mod at a time.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:39 am

No, I don't have MAO checked.

If it helps even more, I'm using this as a guide: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AYTrAQ8yzT__ZHpwNHc0ZF84ZDgzOHR2Zm0&hl=en

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:49 am

No, I don't have MAO checked.

If it helps even more, I'm using this as a guide: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AYTrAQ8yzT__ZHpwNHc0ZF84ZDgzOHR2Zm0&hl=en

Hmm just looking at the versions of WryeBash and OBSE it reccomends it's clear that you are using an antique guide, so it seems little wonder you are having problems.

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:45 pm

Is there a better, more up-to-date guide out there?

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:10 am

http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/ site is much better and more up to date. Give it a read through, if you feel so inclined.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:27 am

Will do! Thanks!

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:21 am

Except that it wasn't the same issue. Wonder what's up with Jog_X_Mod.esm and thievery.esp?

Perhaps. Gotta try.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:36 am

My guess is one or more of your mods doesn't play well with others. Try disabling all masters (and mods that need those masters), rebuild bashed patch, and check if your game works. If it does, then consider those mods "working." Then disable all, and enable all of your "working" mods and only half of the rest. Rebuild bashed patch, and try playing. If that works, then keep those enabled and enable half of the disabled mods. Rebuild bashed patch, and try playing. Depending on how fast your computer is and how many mods bashed patch has to work with this should give you an answer in reletively little time.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:34 am

I think I'm just gonna start over using this new guide.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:00 am

Will it be safe to install FCOM after this guide or should I install it before?