Oblivion Crashing? : IV

» Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:29 pm

Oblivion is crashing so I went here to see if someone can shed light on this. I installed some supposedly compatible mods (I probably just messed something up) and I can't play Oblivion. It loads up, lets me access the menu, and even lets me start a new game. However; when I finish the intro movie with Cpt.Picard Oblivion crashes.
Here is my Wyre Bash Settings: http://postimage.org/image/1xiumkjno/
Here is my Oblivion Mod Manager Settings: http://postimage.org/image/1xlnicps4/
Here is my Better Oblivion Sorting Software Log: http://pastehtml.com/view/avhcuxcw6.rtxt

» Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:18 pm

Your Bashed Patch is a mess. Go to the FCOM thread and follow the guidelines in the opening post. Generally, you should be importing everything except the exceptions mentioned in the install guide.

You also have too many tweaks activated. Read carefully what each does and then decide whether or not you want to use it. The crash specifically can be caused by using Mayu's Animation Overhaul Tweaker in Tweak Actors, without the mod that goes along with it.

You also need to read the details in the BOSS log and make adjustments to your load order accordingly. There unfortunately are some things not mentioned in the log, such as MMM Gems & Gem Dust and FCOM not being compatible with each other.

Next to last thing, use the mod checker in Wrye Bash and deactivate all the mods it lists and import them into your Bashed Patch. Mods with the NoMerge tag specifically are mods that need this to be done, such as TNR and all the EVE plugins.

Last thing, in the future right-click on the heading bar in the load order tab of Wrye Bash, click List Mods, and copy-paste the contents of the window to post your load order in the future. Do the same thing with your installers tab in Wrye Bash. In fact, do that next so we can help you with specifics about your load order. Also, the load order is more helpful if you list it by load order instead of alphabetically, and it's easier to see this outside of the BOSS log.

Oh, and make sure that BOSS is up-to-date by enabling the option in Wrye Bash to always update when you run BOSS by again, right-clicking on the header in the load order tab.

» Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:18 pm

Your Bashed Patch is a mess...

Thanks I'll get to fixing all these problems right away!

» Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:45 pm

Go to the FCOM thread and follow the guidelines in the opening post.

Link?

» Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:50 am

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1192165-relz-fcom-convergence-and-ufcom/

Okay, going through your load order, here are some details:

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33]
Upgrade to http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15256

FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]
Upgrade to the latest UFCOM.

Living Economy.esp [Version 3.62]
Recommend using http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25078 instead.

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
Use EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp instead.

ExnemRuneskulls.esp
Don't use with MMM Runeskulls at the same time.

Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp [Version 1.1]
Do not use.

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.08]
Upgrade to v1.09. Can be found in the FCOM thread linked above.

FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]
Upgrade to v1.09. Can be found in the FCOM thread linked above.

Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
Not compatible with FCOM.

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
Use Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp instead.

Recommend using http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537 to bring the stats of vanilla equipment in line with FCOM/OOO to keep the game balanced.

» Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:29 pm

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1192165-relz-fcom-convergence-and-ufcom/

Okay, going through your load order, here are some details:

Thanks!
But I followed some of your advice in the other post; and the game started working! But when I exit the sewers, the game crashes, I'll fix all that other stuff and then I'll see if it still happens. Here is my load order now.

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp**  TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp07  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]08  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]09  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp0E  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp0F  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]10  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]11  Fran Armor Add-on.esp++  LoadingScreens.esp12  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp13  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3]14  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3]++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]15  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8]16  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.8]++  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.2]17  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3]18  Living Economy.esp19  Living Economy - Items.esp1A  Cutthroat Merchants.esp1B  Streamline 3.1.esp1C  DLCHorseArmor.esp1D  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1E  DLCOrrery.esp1F  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]20  DLCVileLair.esp21  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp22  DLCThievesDen.esp23  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]24  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]25  ExnemRuneskulls.esp26  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp27  Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp28  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]29  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.08]2A  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2B  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]2C  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2D  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2E  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2F  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]30  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]31  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]32  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]33  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]34  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]35  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]36  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  300 Regal Imperial City 2.esp39  300_Regal_Imperial_City.esp3A  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp3B  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3C  DLCFrostcrag.esp3D  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3E  OCOD+FrostcragSpire Patch.esp3F  Knights.esp40  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp41  OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]42  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]43  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]44  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]45  xulTheHeath.esp46  XulEntiusGorge.esp47  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]48  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]49  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]4A  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]4B  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.3]4C  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]4D  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]4E  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]4F  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]50  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]51  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]52  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]53  xulPantherRiver.esp54  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]55  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]56  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.7]57  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]58  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]59  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]5A  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]5B  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]5C  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]5D  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0]5E  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp5F  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  OOO-Level_Slow.esp  [Version 1.33]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]60  Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3]61  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:16 pm

Thanks!
But I followed some of your advice in the other post; and the game started working! But when I exit the sewers, the game crashes, I'll fix all that other stuff and then I'll see if it still happens. Here is my load order now.

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp**  TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp07  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]08  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]09  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp0E  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp0F  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]10  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]11  Fran Armor Add-on.esp++  LoadingScreens.esp12  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp13  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3]14  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3]++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]15  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8]16  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.8]++  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.2]17  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3]18  Living Economy.esp19  Living Economy - Items.esp1A  Cutthroat Merchants.esp1B  Streamline 3.1.esp1C  DLCHorseArmor.esp1D  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1E  DLCOrrery.esp1F  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]20  DLCVileLair.esp21  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp22  DLCThievesDen.esp23  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]24  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]25  ExnemRuneskulls.esp26  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp27  Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp28  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]29  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.08]2A  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2B  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]2C  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2D  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2E  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2F  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]30  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]31  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]32  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]33  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]34  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]35  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]36  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  300 Regal Imperial City 2.esp39  300_Regal_Imperial_City.esp3A  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp3B  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3C  DLCFrostcrag.esp3D  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3E  OCOD+FrostcragSpire Patch.esp3F  Knights.esp40  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp41  OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]42  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]43  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]44  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]45  xulTheHeath.esp46  XulEntiusGorge.esp47  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]48  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]49  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]4A  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]4B  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.3]4C  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]4D  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]4E  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]4F  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]50  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]51  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]52  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]53  xulPantherRiver.esp54  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]55  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]56  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.7]57  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]58  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]59  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]5A  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]5B  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]5C  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]5D  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0]5E  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp5F  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  OOO-Level_Slow.esp  [Version 1.33]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]60  Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3]61  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

So now I'm able to go outside, but I get wrecked in every fight I get into, is this supposed to happen? Also a bunch of "WTF? I'm missing a mesh!"s are popping up; what am I missing?

» Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:03 am

Did you rename the MMM BSA as you were told?

Did you register the FraNewItems BSA in your Oblivion.INI?

» Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:08 pm

So now I'm able to go outside, but I get wrecked in every fight I get into, is this supposed to happen? Also a bunch of "WTF? I'm missing a mesh!"s are popping up; what am I missing?

You would be far better taking your issues into the FCOM thread where you'll be advised by modders and players familiar with the mod.
As for the missing resources check the known issues with version 1.33 in the opening post of the OOO thread.

» Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:37 pm

Looking at your Load Order, You have not yet followed all of ArmeniusLOD's advice. You probably forgot to rename the MMM.Bsa to FCOM_Convergence-Mart's Monster Mod.Bsa, You probably forgot to rename the FraNewItems.Bsa to FCOM_Convergence-FraNewItems.Bsa.
You are missing patches for Unique Landscapes and OOO/MMM.
You want the http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=24078 packages for all of your overhauls, and you need the EVE esp specifically for an FCOM build, I would erase this last bit, but the link should take you to the EVE page on TESNexus. while you are there download the Supplemental Patches by Arthmoor to update your UOP, USIP, and your UOMP. When you have done this you should no longer need the Thieves Den SSSB plugin.
FCOM makes the world of Tamriel a more dangerous place, You can play with the difficulty settings/add more mods/ pick on low level varmints like Mudcrabs and Goblins to get your skills and survivability chances higher.
I also noticed 3E in your Load Order, I hope you are going to take advantage of OCR in you build, but if you are not, then remove this esp from your Load Order.
Take advantage of the links in my signature.

» Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:50 am

Looking at your Load Order...

So do I unactivate the mods, then edit them by going into the folders?

» Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:38 pm

You need to update your OOO to 1.34, Shikishima is correct about using the FCOM thread, because the thread has links to TheNiceOne's OMOD installer, and all of the information that everyone has given to you is already there.
My only useful advice that is not in the FCOM thread is to try and switch to using BAIN as an installer as early as possible to avoid having to worry (as much) about Install order and overwritten meshes and textures.