I'm not talking copy-pasting & since playing Skyrim isn't in the cards for me. I can't give any Skyrim examples. mod ideas have been used in games past & even if they never use mod ideas doesn't mean they aren't able to, they still have access to mods.

Oblivion was more colorful for the most part while in Skyrim I see white and gray a lot.


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You should try Borderlands 2 first before doing that.

There you have it everyone, Oblivion is better than Skyrim. Don't exactly know how that changes your life but I'mma go get shotgun and put a slug in my skull now that I know this. I don't think I can keep on going now that this bomb has dropped.

I hope I'm doing something else with my life by then but it's going to be ironic when in 10 years people are going to with TES VII was more like Skyrim... the epitome of RPG.

vanilla Oblivion vs vanilla Skyrim, boils down to 2 things
1. Oblivion had tons of Oblivion Gates, Skyrim has Dragons...
2. Oblivion has better THIEVES and Dark Brotherhood Quest lines, Skyrim has better Mages and Companions Quest lines..

TBH i dotn really care which is better, im having fun with Skyrim atm cant put it down but i had the same deal with Oblivion. both great games, both were well worth more than the 60 bucks i threw down on them.

That's a matter of opinion. I see the design flaws as being more along the lines of a lack of content, most notably in quests, spells and skills. I have no issue whatsoever with teh removal of attributes, though I thought I would in the pre-release months. but again, that's a matter of personal opinion

Again, that's opinion. I thought Oblivion was barely below Morrowind, even with the horrendous level scaling and Oblivion gates. I still love both, but I wouldn't rate Morrowind THAT highly. they're both fantastic games(and I started with Morrowind BTW)
And I have faith in the modding community. It's just getting better, especially since a lot of the titans that came out of Oblivion are probably gonna come back for Skyrim.

but as I said, that's a matter of opinion, and we shall agree to disagree.

Fair enough

Still, Bethesda has to actually create the stuff, and unlike modders they frequently don't have the luxury of spending months or years refining a single aspect of the game. So I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say

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That's exactly what mods are for, and in fact it is a great idea for a mod.

By the way, I think Skyrim is a better game than Oblivion, in every aspect that a game can have, and Morrowind is also a better game, in every aspect that is not technology date related.

Is there a way to convince the moderators to sticky this and some other threads that get posted every few days? Skooma, maybe?

Oblivion + mods such as FCOM... sure, i'll go with better than vanilla Skyrim. Vanilla Oblivion? can't agree there.

I disagree on dialogue and factions, but I agree that Oblivion had more "stand out" jawdropping moments in the side quests.

"Oblivion is by far better than Skyrim"

It's not, but that's just my opinion.

I'm getting sick and tired of this downright stupid way of thinking, so he thinks it's a better game due to rose tint/nostalgia/whatever you want to call it?

I'm starting to think people that claim this have no freaking idea what they are talking about.

My first TES game was Arena, I've played every game of the main series since. In my opinion Daggerfall is the best game in the series with Morrowind being my favorite, both of which completely destroy Skyrim. This is not nostalgia, this is me comparing the 3 games side-by-side, looking at the good and bad, and clearly seeing Skyrim is complete crap in comparison.

I get nostalgic whenever I play Doom, but I can't in my right mind say it's better than Half-Life. If someone thinks an older game is better than a newer game, there are valid reasons behind it, and nostalgia is not one of them.

So get the narrow-minded idea that "Oh, this is better? Nostalgia." out of your head.

I disagree, apart from the guilds.

Just... No

The only think better about Oblivion is that it didn't have horribly low res graphics once you got close to an object...Especially Oblivion's trees...full of detail. I also remember seeing insects occasionally climbing up the side of trees and such. Other than that, Oblivion is a [censored]house in comparison.

Though I admit Skyrim was rushed and over-hyped...I would have gladly waited for a 6 month delay to give them a chance to get everything right and polish up on the graphics.

I'm probably the only one who actually enjoyed Skyrim's DB questline more than Oblivion's. v.v

^ This. That's why I think Morrowind is the best TES. It became a standard for me, since I've put so many hours in that game in the past 10 years.

Even though a comparison between a modded Oblivion and vanilla Skyrim is unfair, one major flaw can't fully be fixed by modders: short quest lines. A modder doesn't have acces to the voice-actors. And somehow user made quests just don't feel right in my book.

and my god, it looked so terrible and the movement/combat was so clunky I just shut it off

god, it looked so terrible and the movement/combat was so clunky

it looked so terrible

People like this are to be 'thanked' for ruining gaming as we knew it =D

Nostalgia.

Only better thing about oblivion was thicker forests (albeit more bland ones), rats and longer questlines.

Cheers.

Guys. this is a troll topic. The one rule to trolling is to make it seem like you're serious and not trolling.

Well, the one thing I will say about Oblivion is that I found the guilds much more enjoyable than the guilds in Skyrim. There were more quests and more variety in the quests. It wasn't always "kill this guy" or "steal this item..." There were at least a few unique quests (but not many), there were some quests that were pretty challenging, some very memorable characters, and there actually were consequences for your actions. For example, killing a person during a Thieves Guild quest got you into trouble. In Skyrim, the quests are just too easy for my taste.

Oblivion had better and longer questlines. The guilds in Skyrim is a joke.
Dungeons and landscape is superior in Skyrim.

The Nostalgia goggles tend to help. And that magic that came with your first Beth game.

You can blame me for your lack of enjoyment with gaming all you like. We all need someone to blame now and then.

When "Oblivion" came out many people were making many of the ignorant criticisms then, that are now been directed at "Skyrim".

As people become more familiar and comfortable with "Skyrim" and begin to actually understand the game mechanics they'll start to enjoy it more.

Azrael
The Nord with the Sword