Oblivion first person camera not working at all : IV

» Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:52 pm

I've got a very bad issue with my first person camera. I will show you a video to let you realize how bad it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yey65jPzyhc

So, recap:

- The issue manifests even with only oblivion.esm
- Clicking A S W D seems to change the camera view. Even worse, when switching to first person view, it seems that my height changes and I can even look into walls or into the floor itself.
- In the third person camera, I get no issue. Strange, but that's the way it is.

My mod list. Do you see anything that could warrant such a change on the camera, even when not activating any mod?

Active Mod Files:

Spoiler

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ALEX for OOO.esp++  Rare - LockPick_RepairHammer.esp25  Walk to Oblivion - OBSE.esp26  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]27  Populated Prisons.esp  [Version 1.2]28  ANBToggleGrab.esp29  BookTrackerOBSE.esp2A  MigMiscellanea.esp  [Version 1.82]2B  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]2C  QZ Easy Menus.esp2D  UnidirectionalAttack.esp2E  Vacuity.esp  [Version 0.2]2F  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]30  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]31  AyleidStatueMap.esp32  ShadowbanishMap.esp33  ShowDaedricShrines.esp34  Hotkey Pro.esp  [Version 1.3]35  DLCHorseArmor.esp36  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]37  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]38  DLCSpellTomes - OBSEfixer.esp++  BMEnchantmentRebalance.esp39  Instruments of Cyrodiil.esp3A  PTArtifacts.esp3B  Command Mount.esp3C  Dude Wheres My Horse.esp3D  MD Saddlebags v3.0 Alternative Trader Script.esp3E  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]3F  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]40  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.35Beta]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]41  More Effective Enchantments OOO.esp++  OOO-Inebriation_Remove.esp42  OOOCreatureAddons.esp43  OOOEquipmentAddon.esp++  TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp  [Version 1.39c]44  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]45  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  Cobl Tweaks - 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Apologize if I missed any readme hint that could have easily avoided this topic.

EDIT:

EUREKA! Seems like I partially fixed my issue! It was caused by enhanced skeleton by GROLLF. I do not have that issue on first person anymore.

But... I still have that strange issue that makes the camera move while writing W A S D. Suggestions?

I do not have Enhanced Camera, nor Oblivion Reloaded, nor '3d person animation in first person view'.

» Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:55 pm

It still sounds like a skeleton issue. If you use Growlf's 3rd-person skeleton (which you should), you also need his 1st-person skeleton in the Data\Meshes\Characters\_1stPerson folder. For now, remove anything else that's in that _1stPerson folder.

UNLESS...!

If you use 3rd person animations in 1st person view, or one of the 1st-person combat mods like Unnecessary Violence, you need a special 1st-person skeleton, along with a special "helper" file (usually just called idle.kf, (which is a bad idea, but that's another topic). Both of those files are included with those mods and both are required. Missing one of them causes the kind of problems you're seeing.

Hopefully that gives you enough information to solve your problem.