You mean like this:



I'm working on getting the game's constants at the moment which will take a little time. Please remember that I'm writing this as I decode stuff from the Oblivion executable.

Hello all,
Depthbuffer is good enough for the required mask to render godrays shader. One missing thing is sun position in screenspace and vector for the blur. Great work Scanti! :thumbsup:

Unfortunately due to Oblivion's HDR and how it renders sun, sun is not the brightest place of the sky. Moon is brighter. Clouds are brighter than sun too. And HDR plus sunglare make things worse. All sky lits up, when looking towards sun.

In Morrowind, we do our HDR and bloom so I can access raw frame. My Morrowind method, may not work with Oblivion. This means I may not make it with just a brightpass. I have to learn more about stuff, which will make the progress a little slower.

@scanti,
Depth is not working without HDR. :confused:
8800(g92) gts 512MB.

@salivaters,
Things are coming along real well. A little patience please.

@IlmrynAkios,
Good info. Thanks Ilmryn.

PS. In Morrowind, we have AA, and depth still works. We broke it once, but it was sky reflections.

PPS. And some water imagery from Morrowind:
http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc04/Morrowind-MGE-Crysis.jpg
Close up of new http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/iamerik/MW%20and%20Oblivion/MGEScreenshot9-3.jpg. Screenshot from http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=1047048&view=findpost&p=15207414

Bonus:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc04/Morrowind-MGE-3dmaxfirsttutorial.jpg

This picture has made me go back to morrowind once before. Damit vtastek havent i told you about this before, I'm trying to go to bed man, let a brother get some sleep.

:P seriously i love that picture, it looks so real! and good luck with the god rays man! Im sure you'll get it soon enough!

My pictures on why oblivion needs new water.

http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/AmpolX/mge4.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/AmpolX/mge3.jpg

and new fog settings. I love range vertex fog for mge

http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/AmpolX/mge1.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/AmpolX/mge2.jpg

Would it be possible to run OB in standard mode (without bloom/HDR) and use OBGE to render the HDR? Well, yes I'm sure it's possible - more accurately - would it be practical?


Seriously Morrowind is starting to look better than Oblivion graphics wise.

Whatever happened to the good ol' days when game developers would release their source code after so many years? Ie http://sourceforge.net/projects/doomlegacy/ or http://scp.indiegames.us/. I know it's not gonna happen, but I can only imagine what you guys could do with access to the graphics engine source code for OB or for Morrowind.

Pretty ridiculous pictures..
What else is going on besides those two effects? I think i detect a very subtle full screen blur/bloom?

Its a combo of SSAO, Sunshaft rays, my tweaked bloom shader, and the ENB series for post processing effect file

It has gaussian blur shader too.

OK I've done some tests and it's not exactly the HDR shader that the code needs. It needs any Oblivion shader to execute before my shader does. Try activating the nighteye shader and the depth buffer should work while the nighteye shader is active. There was a bunch of code I left out of my shader code as it looked like I didn't need it. It now looks like I do. Looks like I have some more work to do.

Seems like I missed something - I thought that the depth buffer was readable only on ATi cards.

No I fixed it so it should work with both nVidia and Ati cards.

:thumbsup: I take that the previously cited link pointed to the latest build that was released.

btw, I suggest implementing serialization callbacks for loaded shaders - Something TimeSlip couldn't do back then. Not really necessary, but it's absence is an annoyance nonetheless.

EDIT: Any plans on incorporating your imagespace spoofer into the new code base ?

Small update

I redid my DoF shader to take into account some of the things that were mentioned in that Starcraft 2 pdf that's floating about. (I think tombofsoldier linked to it), mostly the 'rules of DoF' bit, where it states that near objects can blur onto far objects, but not vice versa, and that in focus bits shouldn't be accounted in any blurring. It looks a lot better now, aside from some issues with the actual gaussian blur I've got being a bit rubbish, producing some ghosting. It still looks better than the previous blur though. Hopefully IlmrynAkios can help with that though.

Some pics:

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt255/WrinklyNinja1/Oblivion2009-10-1815-31-36-15.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt255/WrinklyNinja1/Oblivion2009-10-1815-31-38-15.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt255/WrinklyNinja1/Oblivion2009-10-1815-31-39-70.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt255/WrinklyNinja1/Oblivion2009-10-1818-25-47-90.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt255/WrinklyNinja1/Oblivion2009-10-1818-26-13-26.jpg

They're not very clear, but there you go. :shrug: I don't have a high-res setup either. The last two are taken in Aleswell, so there might be a chameleoned innkeeper in the backround.

EDIT: Blegh, those pics look horrible, dunno what happened to them. They're also old, since I've got the alpha channels blending properly now.

EDIT 2: This is probably for Scanti, but does anyone know a way of having shaders work off a timer? ATM if the focus depth (depth of where crosshair is pointing) changes, then the blur will change to accommodate this instantly. However, we all know about eye adaption speed, and I'd like to factor this in if possible. The only timer method I've come accross would require one to be exposed to the shader from the OBSE plugin code, which I can't do. Is there already a method available for me to use, or has this just turned into a request?


I don't actually need any more passes, I figured out how to do it with only the one.

:thumbsup: :wub: DoF is looking good

wow these are looking great

Is there anyway we can contact Phal to help with godrays working or a new water shader? His MGE stuff is very beautiful!

(screens by me)
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/AmpolX/rays01.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/AmpolX/rays02.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/AmpolX/rays03.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/AmpolX/water01-1.jpg
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/AmpolX/water02-1.jpg

WOW NICE PIC"S here some real ones i found http://www.terragalleria.com/pictures-subjects/sunrays/

Those real pics are amazing.

If the authors of MGE shaders give permission, converting shaders is real easy. In fact just changing three words is enough to convert all mge shaders to obge. The problem is variables for them:
Here is the code for finding sun position.

variables

float3 suncol;float3 eyevec;float3 eyepos;float3 sunpos;float sunvis;float waterlevel;float fogrange;

static const float3 sundir = -normalize(sunpos);static const float2 texproj = 0.5f * float2( 1 , - rcpres.y / rcpres.x ) / tan(radians(fov * 0.5));static const float d = dot(eyevec,sunpos);static const float3 sunview_v = mul(sunpos/d, mview);static const float2 sunview = (0.5).xx + sunview_v.xy * texproj;

This is the third iteration and most accurate one. First iteration was using a less accurate but working one with eyevec and sunpos only.

First iteration. Only sunpos and eyevec.

static const float3 sundir = -normalize(sunpos);static float t =  tan(radians(fov * 0.5));static const float3 t1 = normalize(cross(eyevec,float3(0,0,1)));static const float3 t2 = normalize(cross(eyevec,t1));static const float2 proj = float2(dot(sundir,t1),dot(sundir,t2));static const float d = sqrt(1-(proj.x*proj.x)-(proj.y*proj.y));static const float2 sunview = float2(0.5,0.5) - 0.5f * float2( proj.x/d , proj.y/d * rcpres.y / rcpres.x )/t;

PS. What can you do with shaders is amazing. Just found a new way to use depth.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/splashshader/Morrowind-MGE-Vivec1.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/splashshader/Morrowind-MGE-alit2.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/splashshader/Morrowind-MGE-deskdetail.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/splashshader/Morrowind-MGE-dremora.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/splashshader/Morrowind-MGE-guar4.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/splashshader/Morrowind-MGE-jiub2.jpg
More:http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/splashshader/

That was an extension of toon shader:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/cel%20shader/Morrowind-MGE-boatontheriver.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/cel%20shader/Morrowind-MGE-darkness2.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/cel%20shader/Morrowind-MGE-libraryclose.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/cel%20shader/Morrowind-MGE-Okami.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/cel%20shader/Morrowind-MGE-mushrooms.jpg
More:http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/cel%20shader/

Bonus:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc06/Morrowind-MGE-rivershot.jpg
More: http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc06/

wow. :shocking:

Just a thought as I was driving home from a friend's house tonight (at 12:30 am). Would it be possible to do volumetric LOD fog?

Very nice/weird vtastek. Those effects/shaders would make a nice mod by themselves... I know I'd get a kick out of playing with it! :twirl:

I have no idea what you all have been eating but you are all cooking up some amassing stuff. You make me all exited to go back and play / mod this game again.

Someone requested a heat haze shader, I forget who. I've decided to attempt this next, once I'm happy with the DoF shader.

I think it would look super-cool to see this effect not only on fires, but on flame spells too, and another possibility would be to replace the (IMHO) crappy refraction shader Oblivion Gates use, since I reckon that's supposed to be heat haze. Hopefully I can pull it off. Though as for my DoF, I need access to a timer, so hopefully Scanti can help with that.

I should even be able to get those little glowing embers in too. Though that uses particles, and I'm not sure how that stuff works. It may require stuff I don't have access to.

EDIT: Heat haze seems to use vertex shaders, so a) I hope I can do stuff with them with Scanti's latest stuff, and B) I'll have to learn about them.

WOW wrinklyninja your on fire :chaos: , working on something new every time you post (almost).

I have never thought about it before but yeah, a heat haze shader would be uber cool. :rock:

Looking forward to see some eyecandy :icecream:

More like I'm enthusiastic, and making headway through brute force (ie. time spent working on it). I think I spent friday (had the afternoon free) and saturday just writing the DoF shader.

But I am eager to see if the heat haze is possible.

EDIT: I just got the idea to download the Crysis Wars SDK, it says it's got source code amongst other stuff, I wonder if this includes shaders? That would be super cool.

EDIT 2: Turns out that the shaders are easily accessible with just Crysis Wars installed, no need for SDK. This could help with my understanding on how to do stuff...