Now TES4 is a good game but most know that some of the lore found in the game contradicts established lore from pasts games or downright ignores it. But my question has to do with the Daedra found in the game, i understand that each Daedric Prince has his or her own Realm but do these all count as Oblivion or is this just the name of Mehrunes Dagons realm. Also why do some of the other realms look alike, ie. the places where you recieve Goldbrand and Spell Breaker as rewards? And why are there no Shrines for Mehrunes in the game? Is it because the Mythic Dawn is entire cult devoted to him making the shrine the Mythic Dawn hideout? And for my last question would the Mythic Dawn be the equivalent of a Zealot in which the are devoted to the teachings of the Daedric prince the worship?

Sorry for this ramble, i hope you can sort it out as my research on this has come up short.

From my basic understanding, Oblivion is the "outer space" that surrounds Nirn and within it, are pockets of existence that are the spheres of the various Daedric princes.

That might be a little off the mark but its the simple jist that I know off the top of my head.

As for the lack of shrines to Mehrunes Dagon, well, I suppose that could be chalked up to gameplay making it a bad idea. If there are shrines to each of the other princes, in theory there should be one in the open like that for Dagon but since he's the big baddie of the game, it was probably most wise to leave that out.... not sure though.

1. Each Daedric Prince does have an individual realm, however, there have been a number of theories as to why you travel to planes similar to Dagon's from those quests. Probably has something to do with the fact that that realm was the most easily accessed from Tamriel at the time.

2. Dagon is the enemy in Oblivion and the Daedric Prince you are opposing and trying to stop throughout the whole Main Quest, why would you want to do a quest for him?

3. I have no idea what you meant by your last question :shrug:

Actually, Dagon's plane is called the Deadlands. Read up about the realms of Oblivion in http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Doors_of_Oblivion.

Thanks for the answers i did a bit of reading on the Wiki and discovered that the characteristics of some daedric realms are similar, also i dont recall it ever saying that Peryites followers ever made it to his realm it just said they were trapped in Oblvion.

Also in the inevitable TES 5 you will be awkwardly close to TES 4 assuming there will be Daedric Shrines for Princes once again, seeing as the new Sheogorath is the Hero from TES 4. Maybe they will have a shrine to Jygglag and Sheogorath representing two viewpoints, this would mean Sheogorath actually has 3 Personalitys one for each half of the Shivering Isles and one for Jygglag unless they dont count. Also it seems that true followers should know about Jygglag but most seem to crzy to be able to actually communicate that. Sorry for the rant again but thanks for the answers.

Nevermind on the fact that maybe it wasnt Peryites realm as the wiki says it is so, but it does say that it is in the lower reaches of Oblivion much like the Deadlands.

Well there are shrines of Dagon (in one FG quest you actually go to it, and you can find some statues of dagon in wilderness). But the thing is, that all the followers of Dagon are Mythic Dawn, and they were preparing Cirodiil for the invason of Dagon.

I have a hunch things will go back to relative normal with regards to Sheogorath. (if your allowed to use a word like normal when talking about him....)

Maybe they will even use it as a convienient excuse for explaining what happened to the previous games hero after the fact. (ex. Neravarine to Akavir) The hero of Kvatch goes bonkers and well, becomes Sheogorath.

Who knows....But I bet in the next game Sheggy will be right back to giving you some rather unusual quest from his statue and then reward you with something else a bit out there....

i don't believe that.

Where are these? I don't recall going to a Daedric Shrine in the FG

There is a Dagon Shrine in the game, and you (may or may not) kill an Argonian underneath it (it's in the Main Quest, look up)

Or maybe it was MQ, I do not quite remember, it hink i had to excort someone to it, and make sure she/he is safe while she/he studies it.

And to Knight Mariel:
"Members of the Mythic Dawn are committed to service to Mehrunes Dagon, the Daedric Lord of destruction and natural disasters. When a member of the Mythic Dawn dies in the service of Lord Dagon, they are reborn as 'Ascended Immortals' in Camoran's Paradise. There, they await the day that Lord Dagon takes Tamriel as his own and they will be given shares of his kingdom."

from uesp.net

Yeah? And? Does that mean all followers of Dagon are Mythic Dawn? Because I can believe all Mythic Dawn members are followers of Dagon.

Well there is a quest where you escort a scholar, but it wasn't necissarily a Dagon Shrine (to my knowledge), it just says he is studying Daedric Princes

I do not know, maybe it wasn't dagons, I have done it only once.

Knight:

"Some decades after the destruction of Battlespire, in 3E 433, Mythic Dawn, a cult of Mehrunes Dagon worshipper, managed to assassinate the Emperor Uriel Septim VII and the royal family of the Septim Dynasty."
from TIL

One cult of how many?

A cult of Mehrunes Dagon, so they only worship Dagon.

Not all followers of Dagon are Mythic Dawn, if I've read [censored] right.

I get you. But, is it not possible that a singular god have multiple groups of worshippers devoted to various aspects? Really, do you believe that the Mythic Dawn is the only cult to Dagon?

Well it is your choice, you can still worship him, but stay out of the cult. But Mythic Dawn only worship Dagon and no one else

Maybe Mythic Dawn is the cult in cirodiil, maybe every province has its own cults, I do not know that

Now you've contradicted you're original statement. You said above that all followers of Dagon are in the Cult.

Ok, it is my fault, maybe I said it wrong, I wanted to say that Mythic Dawn only worsihps Dagon, not Sheo, not Azura, just Dagon. And I think Mythic Dawn are the crazy followers, willing to do anything Camoran says to them.

If there were other worshipers in Cyrodil (and perhaps elsewhere?), wouldn't it be likely that a group like the Mythic Dawn would seek out those other worshipers and say "Join or die?" Maybe over the course of a generation or two, the various cults have been forcibly melded into one? Given this wasn't just a few misguided souls, but rather the active movement of Dagon himself, one would think they would be at least mostly successful at such an endeavor.

When there is a true prophet about, those who do not flock to him are not very good cultists.

aside from the dendancy for daedric cults to be kinda secretive, its pretty difficult to get into the dawn. I mean, you gotta get the books, and since you need the fourth from a sponsor its basicall a friend of a friend kind of deal

There was a Shrine to Mehrunes in the Lake Varrious Caverns, the Mythic Dawn hide out. Storywise you won't get can't get any quests from him though because you royally [censored] up his plans. His shrine even attacks you by trying to fall on to you.



Nah. You should call it for what it is, development constraints. Lack of resources to make a proper realm.



I don't think there will be anything new about Sheogorath. There are some hints, namely Arden-Sul, that this has happened before.



Sounds like one of the editors is hand weaving. There are no lower reaches of Oblivion, it isn't hell with it's seven rings but more like outer space with it's plane(t)s.