Oblivion Question

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:39 am

Alright, so I'm looking up armor on the 'Wiki, and I find Dremora armor, similar to Daedric armor. It isn't as good as Daedric, but it looks alot similar and still looks bad ass. The 'Wiki shows a set for all Dremora ranks, even the Churls and Caitiffs, but I have no clue where to find this armor, and when I kill Churls and Caitiffs they only drop Daedra hearts. Could someone tell me where to find this armor? Do you have to be a certain level before it is shown?

And I'm not talking about Daedric armor(as a reminder), it's just called Dremora armor. Also, if this thread needs to be moved, any mod is welcome to move it.
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Eileen Müller
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:23 am

It's just armor that they wear that they don't drop.
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Davorah Katz
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:12 am

Its just a set of armor and weapons that dremora have, looks just like Daedric, has about the same properties of iron, but its incredibly heavy.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 10:38 pm

It's just armor that they wear that they don't drop.

No, it's a actual item that drops. It comes in varieties like helmets, shields, etc. It's basically the weaker version of the Daedric armor that you can obtain at lower levels, I suppose.

But the question was where to get it.

And, regardless if it is the same as iron or weighs a ton, I wear alot of things just because I think they look epic, lol.. On every character I make, I HAVE to have a full set of Dwarven armor just because it looks amazing.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 7:15 pm

But the question was where to get it.


Mostly inside oblivion gates. You have to kill daedra for them (obviously). They are too heavy for the bonuses they give and it's best to stay away from it. Wait til 22+ and pick up the Daedra armor instead that will actually serve a purpose for the amount it weighs.

OH.... dremora only comes in shield, bows, swords and axes. I've never seen any piece of armor besides shields that drop low level.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:09 am

There is the Dremora Krynnmarcher Shield which is an exact replica (looks only) of a Daedric Shield, however, it weighs double and offers less protection.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:26 am

I havent checked myself but you could probably get it from the construction set and check it off as playable it might drop then.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:21 am

download a mod that allows you to get it, though im not sure why you want it, it svcks terribly
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 7:25 pm

I havent checked myself but you could probably get it from the construction set and check it off as playable it might drop then.

This or finding a mod seem to be the only options. Valkynaz are the only dremora that are set to drop more than a shield or weapon, and it's Daedric Armour. The Dremora gear simply isn't available in the default game.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:34 am

Just do the "Bound Armor Glitch" and You'll have the entire set of Daedric armor and shield that looks exactly like the Dremora armor and shield. Plus it will all weigh 0! It usually has the highest armor rating in the game too.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Bound_Armor

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Glitches#Permanent_Bound_Items
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 7:07 pm

No, seriously, there's a full set of the armor lower ranks of Dremora wear that you can get. It weighs a TON(seriously), and it has less protection. Last night I found a Dremora Claymore and a Kynreeve shield, and my friend has a full set of Caitiff armor(of which I've seen). He says it's REALLY hard to find, like it's a rare drop. According to him, he had to repeat going into an Oblivion gate eight times just for the helmet. And yes, I can tell now it weighs alot because the shield itself is 45 pounds, and the claymore is like 20 pounds. Just imagine what the cuirass would weigh.. Anyway, I appreciate the help. I know what to do now, but any more info would be great.

And I honestly don't want to do a glitch, it's just not the same.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:58 am

No, seriously, there's a full set of the armor lower ranks of Dremora wear that you can get. It weighs a TON(seriously), and it has less protection. Last night I found a Dremora Claymore and a Kynreeve shield, and my friend has a full set of Caitiff armor(of which I've seen). He says it's REALLY hard to find, like it's a rare drop. According to him, he had to repeat going into an Oblivion gate eight times just for the helmet. And yes, I can tell now it weighs alot because the shield itself is 45 pounds, and the claymore is like 20 pounds. Just imagine what the cuirass would weigh.. Anyway, I appreciate the help. I know what to do now, but any more info would be great.

And I honestly don't want to do a glitch, it's just not the same.


No offense, but please actually look at the replies.

You can't wear the full set.

Your friend probably had Daedric, Bound or used a mod.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 7:10 pm

Dremora Armor exists as a somewhat hidden function, something which only benefits Dremora. I think I found what you had seen on the UESP site and it does say what everyone else has also pointed out:
All Dremora armor cannot be removed, and therefore can never be worn by the player. The exception are shields, which can be taken and used normally if they drop from a Dremora's hand when he dies. Dremora Armor will always be Daedric in appearance, but in reality it is leveled with the Dremora themselves.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion%3a%44remora_Equipment
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:43 am

Without mods, the armor cannot be equipped by the player. It is not checked as "playable" in the construction set, so even if you managed to get the armor into your inventory, you would not be able to equip or remove the armor. It would still encumber you though.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:26 am

No offense, but please actually look at the replies.

You can't wear the full set.

Your friend probably had Daedric, Bound or used a mod.

Did you not see me say that I saw it? No, it isn't a mod, because he's on the 360, no it isn't Daedric, it's called Caitiff, I've seen the name, and the same goes for bound, because it doesn't say bound and it's not temporary.

Regardless, I know what I'm supposed to do now, it mainly shows up by the time Kynvals show up, it's rare, and it drops on Dremoras. No need to reply anymore, but go ahead if you want. Any more help/etc. would still be nice.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 9:46 pm

Did you not see me say that I saw it? No, it isn't a mod, because he's on the 360, no it isn't Daedric, it's called Caitiff, I've seen the name, and the same goes for bound, because it doesn't say bound and it's not temporary.

Regardless, I know what I'm supposed to do now, it mainly shows up by the time Kynvals show up, it's rare, and it drops on Dremoras. No need to reply anymore, but go ahead if you want. Any more help/etc. would still be nice.



Maybe he just enchanted a suit of daedric and renamed it caitiff and it would still weigh the same amount
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:30 am

I just searched the UESP and there is no type of armor called "Caitiff Armor." I'm sorry, but it doesn't exist in the game as a separate armor type. I play on 360 with over 300 hours of game play and I have never seen/come across that type of armor. If you did see it on 360 it had to be a set of custom enchanted daedric.

edit - there is a rank of Dremora called Caitiff, but it isn't an armor type but a rank of Dremora. Here is the quote from the UESP:

[quote]Dremora Caitiffs are a low level rank of Dremora utilized by Mehrunes Dagon as berserkers and shock troops. They start appearing at player level 8 and are more powerful than Dremora Churls. These Dremora wear Dremora Caitiff Armor (50% chance they wear a helmet), Robes for Mages, which cannot be looted. Dremora Caitiff's are summoned by the spell Summon Dremora.[/quote]


So it does exist, but you can not access it or wear it. One more quote from the UESP:

[quote]All Dremora armor cannot be removed, and therefore can never be worn by the player. The exception are shields, which can be taken and used normally if they drop from a Dremora's hand when he dies[/quote]
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:43 am

I just searched the UESP and there is no type of armor called "Caitiff Armor." I'm sorry, but it doesn't exist in the game as a separate armor type. I play on 360 with over 300 hours of game play and I have never seen/come across that type of armor. If you did see it on 360 it had to be a set of custom enchanted daedric.

edit - there is a rank of Dremora called Caitiff, but it isn't an armor type but a rank of Dremora. Here is the quote from the UESP:



So it does exist, but you can not access it or wear it. One more quote from the UESP:

I've seen that quote already, and you can't believe everything the Wiki says. What I'm about to say in a second has something to do with the Wiki, but oh well. I don't believe there's a set because it says so, I believe because I've seen it myself. I'm not getting any of this info from the UESP.. OblivioWiki has a file of armors for each Dremora rank, and yes, I know Caitiff is a rank of Dremora, duh, and yes, there is a file for armor along the lines of 'Dremora Caitiff'.

It says nothing about it not being droppable, it says nothing about only being accessed through mods, none of that. It's not enchanted Daedric, because he has a set of Daedric, and comparing the Caitiff to the Daedric, there are differences. AS SAID BEFORE.... I don't need this thread up anymore, so by posting it's really just by option or choice now. You don't have to anymore.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:13 am

I haven't looked at the UESP at all for my info, just gotten it right from the Construction Set.

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1534/caitiffarmour.jpg.

As you can see, the Dremora Caitiff Cuirass isn't marked as playable. Except for the Dremora Shield and weapons, the other Dremora pieces are also not playable.

What we're saying is, dremora gear isn't normally supposed to drop, so normally it's not available.

While it's nice that OblivioWiki lists the Dremora armour separately, they didn't include that it's not meant to be a playable armour option. Finding it once doesn't mean it actually is available; more likely the find was just a glitch. If multiple people can do the same basic thing and also pick up the armour, there'd be more to it than just a glitch.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:39 am

I haven't looked at the UESP at all for my info, just gotten it right from the Construction Set.

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1534/caitiffarmour.jpg.

As you can see, the Dremora Caitiff Cuirass isn't marked as playable. Except for the Dremora Shield and weapons, the other Dremora pieces are also not playable.

What we're saying is, dremora gear isn't normally supposed to drop, so normally it's not available.

While it's nice that OblivioWiki lists the Dremora armour separately, they didn't include that it's not meant to be a playable armour option. Finding it once doesn't mean it actually is available; more likely the find was just a glitch. If multiple people can do the same basic thing and also pick up the armour, there'd be more to it than just a glitch.

I can believe that. All I can do, basically, is sit and hope the glitch happens. I just never thought about it.

And to all you other people, would it make you happy if I just said yes it's impossible to get and you're right?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:48 am

And to all you other people, would it make you happy if I just said yes it's impossible to get and you're right?


Hmmm...i'd sure like that :dancing:
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 7:59 pm

And to all you other people, would it make you happy if I just said yes it's impossible to get and you're right?


If members using the Construction Set as a reference say the armor is not playable, it is not playable in an unmodded game, and no claim to the contrary is going to be accepted. I have thousands of hours in game, my characters always search corpses, and none have ever gotten a drop of any armor but a shield from a Dremora below Valkynaz rank.

There is actually a rule against hoaxing the forums, but that is meant to apply to "delete your save games and jump off Dive Rock" hoaxes, not mistaken claims.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:21 am

If members using the Construction Set as a reference say the armor is not playable, it is not playable in an unmodded game, and no claim to the contrary is going to be accepted. I have thousands of hours in game, my characters always search corpses, and none have ever gotten a drop of any armor but a shield from a Dremora below Valkynaz rank.

There is actually a rule against hoaxing the forums, but that is meant to apply to "delete your save games and jump off Dive Rock" hoaxes, not mistaken claims.

This wasn't a hoax, it was a question. I saw my friend have the armor, it was on the Wiki, and I needed an idea of where to find it. And twice I said that nobody needed to post anymore, so yeah..
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:35 am

And to all you other people, would it make you happy if I just said yes it's impossible to get and you're right?
It makes me happy to know that I can admit when I'm wrong, but it makes no difference to me what you do, no. B)
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 9:04 pm

Yeah, this is why I tried to leave the Forums last time... Because some people don't listen to people who know more than them...

Look, you aren't going to get Dremora Armor on the console, it is literally NOT possible, okay? Not to my knowledge anyway, and I have MANY more hours than you probably do, playing the game for over 2 years is probably saying a bit.
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