Skyrim is the new Morrowind - meaning that is has replaced Morrowind for me as the greatest game ever made.

Yep me too. :nod:

That was a lot easier for me to understand how to play Skyrim than it was for me with Oblivion imo. To answer the question in the OP I'll say no to that, because both Morrowind and Skyrim has much in common but still they're different from each other. :tes:

Oh jeez no... no it isn't. Oblivion will never live up to Morrowind's name. At least in my opinion. Daggerfall, Morrowind and Skyrim are the crowning achievements of TES, Arena and Oblivion are more forgettable though.

People seem to forget or not care but Oblivion was a huge step forward in change from morrowind, the same was Morrowind was a massive step forward from daggerfall. Skyrim doesn’t really make the same kind of leap, its basically the same as Oblivion in most areas except things like UI, combat, and scenery, from my observation. Morrowind is also the game that hooked me to TEs but Reading the typical two sentence post about how The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is the worst game in the history of the tes universe just doesn’t add up to me. Oblivion wasn’t that different then Morrowind except for the revolutionary make over of the game engine in all areas. I do admit Oblivion can get boring or bland over time, I thought it was real cool of Beth to release Shivering Isles it gave it some real spice. I won’t even include daggerfall or arena they are just way too dated.

Is Oblivion the new Morrowind, yes in the sense its a huge step forward in technology but its not the same feel of immersion and detail Morrowind still trumps any tes game i have played.

Almost every TES game was a step forward in the TES game evolution, except I cant say skyrim is oddly enough but maybe the next tes game will really utilize a new game engine, graphics ect. by then we might have new consoles out like ps4 or xbox5000, since sadly Beth no long builds tes games with PCs as the foundation. All we can hope for now is that consoles get better, that’s when new tes games will make those revolutionary leaps like in the past.

In my book..

Morrowind > Daggerfall > Skyrim > Oblivion > Arena

Honestly I just don't take Oblivion seriously. My friends and I always make fun of it. Like this, So a guard walks up to a random beggar and talks about how mud crabs are nasty creatures. The beggar then says something about agreeing with the guard in a moderately normal voice. Then after the guard says Goodbye, the beggar, in a completely different voice asks for a single coin to feed his/her family. <-- That, or the Adoring fan.. Or the Guard's dialogue options when you get them ticked off.. Or maybe the sheer stupidity of some NPC's. Like how the Skooma addicts in Bravil drink their Skooma while talking. Oh oblivion, you never cease to make me feel smarter.

Some of the dialogue in Oblivion was comedy gold, see my signature for my personal favourite.

Oblivion was my first TES game, absolutely loved it. Played Morrowind a bit after, absolutely loved it. Now I have Skyrim and I absolutely love it.

If I had to put them in order it'd be Skyrim>Morrowind>Oblivion, though.

Personally I don't think so, but I will say this. Since Skyrim has been out I have been seeing more and more posts that are favorable to Oblivion. I see more and more posts saying they miss the atmosphere of Cyrodiil, miss their old Attributes, Major and Minor skills, ect. It will be interesting to see if this trend continues.

Vanilla Morrowind was thoroughly and constantly criticized during the years it was Bethesda's latest game. It became retrospectively "canonized" after Oblivion made it look better in some people's eyes. It seems to me that a lot of players like Skyrim, with all its faults, and I think it is not as likely to make Oblivion look as good as Oblivion made Morrowind look good. But time will tell.

And by the way folks: this thread is not asking us to rank the games. The question is this: will Oblivion become the golden standard for Skyrim players who never played Morrowind?

Woah there. I started on Oblivion. Just because I started on a game you find inferior does not my opinion worthless.

Here's my breakdown.

Morrowind >= Daggerfall > Skyrim > Arena > Battlespire > Redguard > Oblivion

Understand, Battlespire and Redguard were barely playable on release and were buggy as hell. Oblivion is just an emberassment, I've successfully forgotten I have played it, that one time, some years ago.



When general consensus is that OB is crap, it kinda is worthless

/blatantassault

I've been playing Oblivion for over a course of four years, I know that game in and out. Skyrim on the other hand, it's a new start and I don't know yet if it's better, because I don't know it in and out. In less than a year, I'll know which is better, but not at the moment.

So even if you enjoy Oblivion and have great fun playing it, it is still worthless because someone else says so?

1. Daggerfall
2. Skyrim
3. Oblivion
4. Morrowind
5. Arena

First post nails it

no. oblivion is still worst of the 3