Yes I know, Im suggesting an Oblivion mod but this really relates specifically to Skyrim so I feel it should be in this section. For any Dev that might happen across this and needs a more practical reason to do an Oblivion DLC: Increased sales as we get closer to the launch of Skyrim, especially for people who have not played Oblivion but are going to pickup Skyrim.

Edit: Skyrim on Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim


I also know Skyrim takes place 200 years after the events of the main quest in Oblivion. From the little I know(and if anyone has links to specific details Id love to see them) of the period between the two games the Empire's government essentially collapses. A DLC would NOT have to take place near the end of that 200 years, it could be as little as 50-100 years after the events of Oblivion's main quest and really just set the tone for Skyrim and witness the events that started the turmoil in the Empire.

I am sure Bethesda could garble the lore a little bit more for it to make sense why our character is still alive, but thats kind of what Id like to discuss here. Keep in mind I am NOT a lore buff and really only have ingame stuff to go off of, I really dont mind anyone poking holes through my logic and scarce facts.


Spoilers for people who may not have finished Oblivion will probably come up in this thread, youve been warned.



Speaking of spoilers, it could be dependent on Shivering Isles since you become Sheogorath, and the effects of a mortal doing that are relatively unknown. I would think a somewhat expanded lifespan wouldnt be too far out of the realm of possibility. See what I did there?

Or the PC could just be longer lived because hes chosen by the gods or some such thing.



And then theres the second part of what Id like to discuss: What exactly COULD happen?

There is that book that was written(I forget the name) about that floating sky city, although Im unsure what time that places in and how it will relate to the story of Skyrim. If any you lore people want to shed some light Id like to expand on whatever is currently know about the time between Oblivion and Skyrim.

In the event of any sort of Nordic raids(because Id figure if anyone would take the opportunity to do a bit of raiding, it would by them) from Skyrim on the outskirts of Cyrodiil, well who else are they going to turn to if not the hero of Cyrodiil?

Or even things like slavers creeping out of the marshes or Morrowind. Fringe raids, general unrest, increase in lawlessness.

My favorite idea so far was a bit of a twist at the end of whatever happens and that somehow the PC from Oblivion unwittingly CAUSES the collapsing of the Empire. Like maybe somehow knowingly helping the assassin who kills the Emperor?

Skyrim is in the last year of development. Im pretty sure they are in complete focus for Skyrim and done with new content for Oblivion. Not gonna happen. And in truth, I wouldnt have it any other way. I want them to focus completely on Skyrim to make it as perfect as possible before release.

A big huge YES! :celebration:

I do now want it to have any connection to Shivering Isles though since that was nowhere close to the main game's quality.

As much as I'd like to see something bridging the gap between the two games (other than The Infernal City, which I just finished reading, and whatever the next novel is called, anyway), I'm going to have to go with this.

Let's keep the game's focus on Skyrim itself, eh?

There was no need to connect Oblivion's events to Morrowind, and the time between those two games was MUCH less than what we have here. So why should we need something to connect Skyrim to Oblivion when the plot device of the two games, for all intents and purposes, has no real relation?

So nay I say.

I kinda always like SI more than anything done in vanilla myself , not count the Dark Brotherhood which is epic. It could be due mostly to the Morrowindishness though.

As for them not having the manpower or time to do it... Im pretty sure the entire company isnt working on JUST Skyrim. Even if they only worked on it as a sideproject a year is a lot of time. I wasnt suggesting anything the size of an expansion like SI, but maybe closer to Knights.

Im also not suggesting it HAS to have anything at all to do with the events in Oblivion, but the time period in between.

It would be really cool, so yay. The connection between Skyrim and Cyrodiil was not set up at all, and a new DLC could do that.

It'd be a big waste of time figuring that Skyrim is in the final stages of development. I don't know about you, but I want them to focus on 1 game in the series at a time.

I say no.

We already have a tie-in between Oblivion and Skyrim, it's Infernal City and Lord of Souls. Also Skyrim will most likely allude to the Oblivion Crisis and the events between the two games, so don't worry, if you don't like to read books, I'm sure you will get the jist of it from Skyrim.

Nothing to take time away from development. but if they had enough time and where willing too, a patch with high rumors of the Grey beards. Of course they would have to bring the voice actors back in but still.

Its not about not having enough manpower its about devoting resources to get the next project done and in the best condition possible.

Im no game developer but surely the entire company is not going to be working on Skyrim for the rest of the year. Once they have the story/models/art done its probably going to mainly be bugsquashing Id figure(if theres anyone whose been a developer Id like to know if Im wrong, I kinda always wondered about the whole process). Theres got to be a few people with nothing much better to do.



I do have the Infernal City(now I remember what its called, lol) but I kinda rushed it and should probably read it again. From what I remember they dont really go into Cyrodiil, but I dont know what the second book is about. I mean a cross-over of some characters from the books would be cool but then I think Im stretching things a bit too far lol.



Thats kinda why I tried to point out a sales opportunity. I mean Id mainly like for it to be well done and be for story reasons for fans, but Im pretty sure sales of Oblivion will increase a bit close to Skyrims launch like what happens for a lot of big sequels.

Approved by Lady Nerevar. :celebration:

Such a DLC, even a very small one would be a huge present to us Oblivion lovers. bliviongate:

But why?! What's the point of making Oblivion DLC that's set ONE HUNDRED YEARS LATER with a character that CAN'T BE YOUR OWN?! Your character would be DEAD (or at least a Daedric Prince, depending on the suggestiveness of Shivering Isles and your player's choice to follow through with it or not).

I see that you think of it as a sales opportunity, but what would be the true value of this "DLC" to either game? What would be the point? It just seems like a fan with wishful thinking over a farfetched idea if you ask me. Let's just focus on Skyrim, all right?

Meh, I'd rather BGS keeps their eye on the ball and not waste time on a tie-in DLC when we have the books.

No.

There are two real books and going to be in game references, and books, etc that will give us an idea of what happened in that 200 year time frame.

Thats the idea . I mean I want Skyrim out ASAP as much as everyone else here, but in the meantime if its at all feasible Id love some sort of DLC to set the story for Skyrim.

And I can say with 99% certainty that even the people voting Nay would all get it if it happened too.

Yeah. The books (two right?), were they any good though? I think I heard they got floating cities and crazy stuff like that, not really my cop of tea.

Well thats kinda the point of the thread. I wanted to discuss if and how it could happen(lorewise), not so much if it should . The 200 years between looks like a really interesting time period and it would be cool to be a part of that. It doesnt necessarily have to be directly related to Skyrims plot, but be more of a prologue.

Im sure theres some potential reason your character would still be alive. But if its RP youre worried about its not like you already HAVE to be head of the Fighters, Mages, and Thieves Guilds all at the same time(as an example. You could just not play it.

Well the second book hasn't come out yet but I liked the Infernal City. It's a little more complicated than it just being a floating city but yeah.

Yah but the stuff in that DLC would only eb one year of the 200 maybe not even. So whats the point, all it would do would spread teh information of the 200 years out over a DLC and Skyrim instead of us getting caught up in just Skyrim. Its pointless.

Mostly I'm bothered by the fact that it's an author from the outside making stuff up for Elder Scrolls.

Even though Bethesda checks and approves the work it will probably still be too different than the rest of Elder Scrolls (kinda like the Star Wars books and stuff). I don't think the author is neither an Elder Scrolls fan or a gamer, they seldom are. Am I wrong? After all I haven't read it lol.

On the books, from what I remember Infernal City is just completely different from what youd be used to in TES. Not in a bad way or anything just a different kind of story telling. It really seemed more of a D&D type of story, which I did enjoy.




When TES6 comes out Skyrim will have been pointless, so why get it?

It seems within the realm of TES to me. The only thing that felt out of place was the flying potion but it seems to be a extremely rare potion so it's fine. Umbriel, the floating city in the book, is complicated how it exists but it ties into the ministry of truth and it is very difficult to keep functioning. If you read the book you would understand. Also, the Star Wars books and comics aren't really that out of place of Star Wars. They fit pretty well actually, they just make the force and lightsaber duels a bit more interesting than the original three movies and that was only because of the limitations of special effects that the time.

Er...so, increased sales how? From people who didn't play (thus likely don't have) Oblivion but plan to get Skyrim downloading a DLC for Oblivion? There's a less-than-minor flaw with that plan...