Ah, sorry. Your UI is the user interface you are using. Are you using Darnified UI or Dark UI or anything like that? Your Oblivion directory is where the game is installed. I think the default is C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion. It's where the Oblivion.exe is located. In there will be a file called obse.log. Open it with notepad and copy the contents. Before pasting it into your post type [spoiler], then paste in the contents, then type [ followed by /spoiler]. The closing tag should be all together, but I can't type it that way.

I use the regular Vanilla/BTMod, [crc = 7934C86C
dll = C:\Users\Public\Downloads\obse_1_2_416.dll
hookBase = 001B0000
loadLibraryAAddr = 75D143DD
hook thread complete
launching oblivion
/spoiler] and if thats not the right one this one probably is i dont know which one it is so [OBSE: initialize (version = 19.4 010201A0)
oblivion root = C:\Users\Public\Downloads\
plugin directory = C:\Users\Public\Downloads\Data\OBSE\Plugins\
patched
loading from C:\Users\david\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 5998 - dsa - Blackwood, Level 11, Playing Time 31.45.11.obse
Reading mod list from co-save
Loading strings
Loading array variables
DoLoadGameHook: C:\Users\david\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 5998 - dsa - Blackwood, Level 11, Playing Time 31.45.11.ess
loading from C:\Users\david\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 5998 - dsa - Blackwood, Level 11, Playing Time 31.45.11.obse
OBSE: deinitialize
/spoiler]

Your spoiler tags need the opening [, like this:


I think you can look at that by copying and pasting it into your post. If that doesn't work, click on the code snippet icon in the little toolbar above the post editor and replace the "code" words with "spoiler". The code tag icon is the one with <>. I don't know why they don't have spoiler as an icon...

Ok, I would suggest you upgrade OBSE, although it doesn't look like you are running into the bug that cropped up recently.

Also, if you ever need to re-install Oblivion, I suggest you install it to C:\Games or something like that. Having it in C:\Users may cause issues since the Users folder is used by the system. How did you wind up with almost 6000 saves in 31 hours of playing? That is highly suspicious and makes me wonder if something got corrupted. If you actually have that many saves in the saved game directory, I suggest you delete most of them. Keep the last 50 or so.

Could you take a screenshot of your character menu? This is the menu that appears when you press F1. You'll have to post the screenshot to an image upload site like http://www.tinypic.com/ Then you'll need to paste the link into your post. Type "screenshot", then highlight the word and press the link icon in the little toolbar right above the editor when you are posting. The link icon is next to the smiley face icon.

At this point, I'm thinking that you might just need to reinstall Oblivion XP. You won't need to do a clean save or anything like that. Just double-click on the omod to deactivate it, exit OBMM, open OBMM again and then double-click on it again to re-activate it. However I would like to see your character menu first.

Actually i do have 6000 saves and i actually have 31 hours of game play, what can i say, i save less than every five minutes. but i have like 10 saves, so what are you talking about? I have saved over 6000 times but not 6000 saves, plus i have already reinstalled oblivion xp twice, also my character menu http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=xqi152&s=7

I was just skimming through the thread and saw this part of the comment. does Oblivion XP support Dark UI now or does it still have the vanilla look to the stats screen?

Saving over previous saved games can lead to saved game corruption. I don't think saving that often is a good idea either. You can try the clean save procedure and see if it recovers. Otherwise I suggest you forget about Oblivion XP and use another levelling mod.

Clean Save procedure: Uninstall Oblivion XP. Load your saved game. Save the game again in a NEW slot. Exit the game. Re-install Oblivion XP. Load your clean save and go through the initialization process with Ob XP.



No, not yet. Still vanilla for stats screen, I'm afraid. I haven't forgotten about you And yes I do remember that you are the one who's running Dark UI because you use your television as a monitor :wink_smile: I do plan several UI improvements in a future release, including compatibility improvements.

Awesome can't wait. I gave up trying to figure out how to get it to work and was just living with how the stats looked.

Once I get an other issue with a mod resolved I'll download this and check it out. Too bad I've done a good chunk of quests that aren't covered in the other Oblivion XP.

Hmmm, well there aren't really any more quests covered in this version than in the previous one I have set up the "Friends of Oblivion XP" club that lists mods that have Ob XP support included, and there have been a couple of recent joinees I also created a patch for A Brotherhood Renewed. The patch is unique in that it will reward points for completed quests even if you load it after completing the quests! I set it up that way on purpose

Could you give me the names of the mods you're not getting XP for? I do have a list and I will be asking the author to add Ob XP support or I will create a patch. I've been promised new Wrye Bash tags that will allow people to import these patches, but with the recent WB problems, that has fallen off the radar a bit. Hopefully I'll get those tags soon.

I have tried most of the leveling mods. I like this one the best of the ones I have tried.

I'm curious about save game corruption being cause when you save over them. While I have occasionally had issues with saved game corruption, I have always found a mod or mod load order that explained it. This is the first time I have heard that saving over previous games can cause that. How did that get figured out?

I somehow managed a double post. OOPS.

Basically it's just from experience. Post a question about corrupted saves and you're going to be asked about reusing saved game slots. I think even Beth tech support will ask the same thing. There are no hard and fast statistics, but over the several years of seeing this happen, the frequency of it happening with re-used saved games is quite high. Plus, OBSE adds complexity to the mix. It's not OBSE's fault - this will happen with vanilla. Part of it has to do with purging buffers, but I'm not an expert. I've reused saved game slots periodically myself, but I don't do it very much. If you don't want too many saved games, just delete the old ones. If you want a better explanation that what I can provide, post a question on the hardware & software issues forum. I really don't know all the details, I just know it's generally not recommended.

Hi, I want to level slower. Do I need to change the variable in "Set ObXPSettings.multXPNeededBase"? The default variable is 1500. So, if I increase it that will mean my leveling would be slower?

It does, but it really doesn't have much impact. After some experimentation, the best variable I found to adjust is

Set ObXPSettings.multXPNeededQuadraticSlope to 1 ; 1

I set it to 1.2 and that worked really well. I actually found I levelled a little too slowly when I got to level 20 or so. I've put about 400 hrs into my current game and I'm only level 32. You might try setting this to 1.1. You don't need to change it by much though, so I'd be careful about changing it to much more than 1.1 or 1.2. Now in my game, I have a lot of the miscellaneous stats turned off. I don't gain XP from eating ingredients, stealing stuff, reading books, gathering Nirnroot or feeding as a vampire. If you have all those things turned on, you might want to use 1.2 for the quadratic slope. Even with those things turned on, I wouldn't set the quadratic slope too high (1.2 or 1.3). I also had the sleeping bonus turned off for most of my game, although now that I understand how it works now, I leave it on.

The sleeping bonus does not give an XP bonus. The message is a bit confusing. Instead the way it works is that it gives you a pool of XP. While you have points in the pool, you earn double the amount of XP for anything you do. Each time you earn XP while you have a rest bonus, the earned XP is decremented against the pool. Once you've used up the pool, the amount of XP you earn for stuff returns to normal.

So give that a try. You'll see the effect immediately because Ob XP will display the new number for the required XP to level. The main question is the overall result. I do all the guild quests, the main quest and had a couple of quest mods loaded. I did The Lost Spires and A Brotherhood Renewed. I just bought Shivering Isles, but that didn't have any effect on my game since I didn't get it until I was already level 30. I probably won't do the quests in it anyway. So hopefully that gives you an idea of how this variable affects the game.

Happy gaming !

My characters never slept until I started using this mod. It gives my characters an incentive to sleep every once in awhile.

Thanks for the info. I'll make a note of that so i don't forget.

I posted about this problem on tesnexus but sadly the solution I was given didn't fix it. Random times when I load a save game the mod breaks after initializing and starts continuously adding exp to me. Some times it'll initialize fine but after going through a door somethings wont give me exp (killing people mainly). The only things that would give me exp after that is finding a new place or killing a guard though after that the "Initialization is complete" message comes up again and starts continuously adding exp. If I bring up the levelup menu I can actually watch my points for skills and attributes go lower and lower through the negatives (i've it go as low as -254637 before I stopped it). The only way I could play again is to make another character and start all over again. I was told that maybe a mod I was using messed with the menu and to re-install it but that didn't work. I used the old Oblivion XP too but I made sure I completely removed everything from it.(I had this same issue with the original so I hoped this version fixed it) The only major mods I have running are MMM, Midas Magic and Deadly Reflex 6. I thought maybe it was the new Deadly Reflex since it had a lot of bugs but I've had the problem with Deadly Reflex 5 as well and also without the mod entirely. I also use the DarkUId DarN ui system. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!

I asked SkyCaptain about this and he thought it might be an issue with upgrading to DR 6 from DR 5. Make sure you follow his upgrade instructions exactly. DR 6 should be fine with Oblivion XP - Klaus uses Ob XP himself. SkyCaptain is the author of DR 6 and Klaus is one of the team members.

Oblivion XP works fine with MMM and Midas Magic, although it should be installed after Midas Magic so that it can replace the menus. Use BOSS to sort your load order. Don't confuse installation order with load order. Install MMM, then Midas Magic, then Ob XP. Then use http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516 to sort things so that they load correctly. I would install DR 6 last (even after Oblivion XP). Then use BOSS again.

At this point, I am guessing that you need to do a couple of clean saves to clear DR 5 and 6 out of your saved games. When you are running OBSE, there is extra information stored in the saved game files that carries over, even when a mod is removed. So deactivate DR 6. Load your game. Save the game in a new slot. Exit. Load your game again. Save it again - in a new slot. Exit. Now you can reactivate DR 6. See if things run better. This is the clean save procedure with an extra step

Also, make sure you are running http://obse.silverlock.org/. OBSE 18 is fine, but if you upgraded to OBSE 19, make sure you get the latest version. There was a nasty bug in the first release of OBSE 19 that has been fixed with the new release.

I've made sure that I had completely removed the previous of DR5 from my game. I've searched for all it's files and removed all that I could find and used oblivion mod remover before I installed the new version. I use OBSE 19 and use OBMM (I've never heard of BOSS until now). I've even done complete re-installs of my oblivion game itself delete every folder from the install directory and the saves and the oblivion.ini file. It's fixed my other problems but not my issue with Oblivion XP. Is there any possibility that changing something in the oblivionXP.ini could possibly cause this?

When you installed Oblivion XP, did you use OBMM to create an omod? You have to create an omod from the archive and install Oblivion XP by double-clicking on the omod. There is an installation script that has to run to set the menus up properly. When that installation script runs, it will ask you which UI you are using.

I really doubt there is anything you could change in the ini file to cause this. You aren't running any other levelling mods, are you? Things like Progress, Realistic Levelling, nGCD... You can't use another levelling mod with Oblivion XP.

Use BOSS to sort your load order. If there is a mod conflict that's causing this, then BOSS might be able to sort it out.

You are only the second person to ever have this problem The first was someone who had developed his own mod and that seemed to cause the problem. He upgraded to OBSE 19 and did a clean save and that corrected the problem.

Try BOSS and see if that corrects the problem. You might need to do a clean save (deactivate Oblivion XP, load, save, reactivate Oblivion XP).

If you're still having trouble, post your ini file and load order in spoiler tags.

Well using BOSS and a clean save seems to have done the trick for now. Only problem now is that when I throw my weapon with DR6 it makes a sound like I'm casting, BUT that's for the DR section on the forums. Thanks for your help!

Ok, so it sounds like it was a mod conflict. Thanks for the update!

Sorry about the double post. Wont allow me to edit my previous one. As I expected my game is still messed up even after I did all that you had said to do. I did however this time open my console and saw this;
Error in Script 40000ed4
An expression failed to evaluate to a valid result
File: Oblivion XP.esp Offset:0x15DA Command: Let

Not sure it that'll help but it's all i could find. Why must I be cursed with the rare issue...

Nope. I think that's the OBSE 19 bug I warned you about Download and install the latest OBSE. Link is in my previous post. See this http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1142593-relz-oblivion-script-extender-obse-0019b/page__view__findpost__p__16699903. If you are running either of those mods, you will have to deactivate them, and do a clean save. Upgrade to OBSE v 19b. Then reactivate those mods.

If you aren't running those mods, then it's another one that is doing something similar. The problem isn't with Ob XP itself.

I have none of the mods you listed or any other leveling mod nor have I used any other mod of the type besides this one. I just put in the version of OBSE you said to get but instead of fixing the problem i get the same errors in the console but different numbers/letters this time. You mentioned posting my load order and ini settings in a previous reply. How do I do this? Maybe you can find a mod of mine that is conflicting.

http://www.tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=know_how_to#PostYourLoadOrder

Put it in spoiler tags: [ spoiler ] your load order goes here [ /spoiler ] ---- REMOVE the spaces between the brackets and the word "spoiler". Actually at the top of the page I linked to above, Tomlong shows how the spoiler tags should look. (Tomlong is the author of that site and is an excellent source of troubleshooting info).

For your ini file, just open it in a text editor and copy and paste the text, also inside a second set of spoiler tags.

Also, please confirm that you installed Ob XP with OBMM - i.e. created an omod and double-clicked on the omod to install it.

Keep at it - we'll get to the bottom of this eventually