[dav]

Well I'll be damned to Oblivion! You got it completely right! Not only does perk skill info display correctly without DR6 installed, but I don't get crashing while displaying skill perk info when running under OBSE 19. In other words, there are no outstanding issues I can detect with DR6 disabled. That kind of svcks because I just keep finding more reason not to use that mod. I chose to use it because I like how it models combat in a manner similar to Dark Messiah. Are you using any kind of mod to change the oblivion combat system? I suppose I could go back to DR5. That one seemed to work well for me without causing an excess of extraneous problems.Oh yeah, thanks for the fishy Cap'n!

How odd. I don't get crashes when skill perk info pops up but I got "0" for Light Armor perk. Acrobatics showed ok, there was one other skill before that was ok too, can't recall which. Using DarkUI Darn, obse19b, MenuQue 9a, EH, DR6. Going to try without DR6 and see what happens, but won't disable it either way, it's too fun a mod. ^_^

All I can suggest if you guys do confirm that it's DR 6 that's causing the problems is that you post your findings in the DR 6 thread. It is a beta and hopefully Skycaptain can figure out what the issue is. At least we know what it is, so you can decide whether to keep DR 6 and just disable the skill perks (you can do that in the Ob XP ini), or try to find an alternative to DR 6.

Skycaptain can contact me if he needs more details. I'm using GetDescription and GetTexturePath (OBSE functions) to get the information necessary to populate the skill perk menu and maybe that's where the conflict lies.

[Marie]

All I can suggest if you guys do confirm that it's DR 6 that's causing the problems is that you post your findings in the DR 6 thread. It is a beta and hopefully Skycaptain can figure out what the issue is. At least we know what it is, so you can decide whether to keep DR 6 and just disable the skill perks (you can do that in the Ob XP ini), or try to find an alternative to DR 6.

Skycaptain can contact me if he needs more details. I'm using GetDescription and GetTexturePath (OBSE functions) to get the information necessary to populate the skill perk menu and maybe that's where the conflict lies.

Disabled DR6 and it's still the same. Tested a bunch of other skills as well, Blunt, Hand to hand, Restoration, Sneak etc, and all info displayed ok. They're all at different skill perk level. So, only Light Armor gave me "0", might have others but couldn't test all skills. Very very odd, wonder where the descriptions are stored, maybe I messed up the file or something. Sorry for giving you new headache. :tongue:

[Sophie Louise Edge]

Disabled DR6 and it's still the same. Tested a bunch of other skills as well, Blunt, Hand to hand, Restoration, Sneak etc, and all info displayed ok. They're all at different skill perk level. So, only Light Armor gave me "0", might have others but couldn't test all skills. Very very odd, wonder where the descriptions are stored, maybe I messed up the file or something. Sorry for giving you new headache. :tongue:

That sounds like it's an issue with the OBSE function or the skill name. Basically when using GetDescription, you have to pass a reference to it, so Light Armor is passed as SkillLightArmor. Does Heavy Armor work ok? I'll test these as well.

Anyway it doesn't sound like you are having the same problem as npell01 was having. Very odd.

[Emilie Joseph]

That sounds like it's an issue with the OBSE function or the skill name. Basically when using GetDescription, you have to pass a reference to it, so Light Armor is passed as SkillLightArmor. Does Heavy Armor work ok? I'll test these as well.

Anyway it doesn't sound like you are having the same problem as npell01 was having. Very odd.

Can't test Heavy Armour since I've already got the perk. Odd, but I can live with it though I wonder why only light armour.

[Kate Norris]

Can't test Heavy Armour since I've already got the perk. Odd, but I can live with it though I wonder why only light armour.

Indeed. I guess I'd better find some way to test all of them... Let's see 1000 pts to spend with no limits per skill - that should do it

[Cameron Wood]

An update on the problems with DR 6, Enhanced Hotkeys and MenuQue:

OBSE 20 beta 6 has been released. This should have a fix to the problem that Scruggsy would like people to test. Scruggsy says it is not the fault of those other mods, rather they uncovered a bug in the OBSE code.

Since Oblivion XP needs MenuQue, there were some issues for people running Oblivion XP, so I am mentioning this here as well. I suspect there will be updates soon in the threads of the other mods affected.

[Chris Duncan]

Oblivion XP has made a new friend: Faregyl Village Version 2.0.1 :wub:

Arthmoor has built support for Oblivion XP into the new version of Faregyl Village. Now you will gain XP when doing Faregyl's quests.

Thanks Arthmoor!!


Also, a French translation has been added! All translations are on the main download page.

[Luis Reyma]

Arthmoor has also added Oblivion XP support to Frostcrag Village!

[flora]

Hey, Andalaybay!

I'm trying to tweak my Oblivion XP ini file, and would like some input. I don't understand from the ini descriptions what exactly the order of operations is for the various XPNeeded multipliers.

I told you a while ago, but I play with FCOM, and in my last Oblivion XP play-through I found low levels too easy and high levels frustratingly long, due to the way creatures are (un)leveled and the resulting XP disparity. So what I'm trying to do is figure out some good values that will increase (or at least leave alone) the XP needed at low levels, while relatively decreasing the XP needed at higher levels. Or to alter other values elsewhere in the ini that will have the same net effect, of making leveling a bit slower at the lowest levels and faster past 25-ish.

I could probably go into the CS and find the appropriate scripts, but I don't know how recognizable they would be (I've never messed around with OBSE scripting), and to be honest math beyond basic algebra is not my strong suit, so even if I did I might need help figuring this out.

So far, based on the descriptions in the ini alone, what I've done is this:

Set ObXPSettings.multXPNeeded 			to 1		; 1Set ObXPSettings.multXPNeededBase 		to 2000		; 1500Set ObXPSettings.multXPNeededLinear		to 100	 	; 150Set ObXPSettings.multXPNeededQuadraticSlope	to 2 		; 1Set ObXPSettings.multXPNeededQuadraticAmp	to 20000	; 20000On top of this, I've also changed the following:Set ObXPSettings.multXPKillLevel 	to 0.5		; 0.3

The logic of the first section being that the NeededBase increase is going to effect everything, while the QuadraticSlope increase will slightly increase the total XP needed per level as well but bring down the level where quadratic increase slows, to around the same level I stop finding anything that outlevels me significantly. At which point the lower NeededLinear value will keep the total XP needed at a lower total level than it was previous (I hope?).

The MultXPKillLevel change was a two-birds-with-one-stone move. In part it compensates for the fact that I set to zero "rested" XP (don't like that functionality, originated with MMORPGs trying to encourage people to play alts to keep them busy...) and set sneak bonus to 1 for no bonus. I actually contemplated setting it to less than one, since sneak kills are easier, not harder, than detected kills... but in the end I decided, a kill is a kill is a kill. And, overall I just want the lion's share of my XP coming from combat compared to the other things I can get XP for, without removing those other things entirely.

The MultXPKillLevel is actually the bit I'm most curious about. The ini is vague. Is this a flat increase that will multiply all kill XP by 50% where it had previously been 30%? Or is this interacting with my level and the base number (and any other part of the killXP equation that I don't know about/understand) in a way that will cause it to have an increasing effect as my level goes up? The latter would be my preference, obviously, as long as the effect isn't insane.

In any case, thanks for taking the time to read, and any feedback (from anyone who understands the equations here, for that matter, not just Andalay) is appreciated.

[Samantha Wood]

Hey, Andalaybay!

I'm trying to tweak my Oblivion XP ini file, and would like some input. I don't understand from the ini descriptions what exactly the order of operations is for the various XPNeeded multipliers.

I told you a while ago, but I play with FCOM, and in my last Oblivion XP play-through I found low levels too easy and high levels frustratingly long, due to the way creatures are (un)leveled and the resulting XP disparity. So what I'm trying to do is figure out some good values that will increase (or at least leave alone) the XP needed at low levels, while relatively decreasing the XP needed at higher levels. Or to alter other values elsewhere in the ini that will have the same net effect, of making leveling a bit slower at the lowest levels and faster past 25-ish.

I could probably go into the CS and find the appropriate scripts, but I don't know how recognizable they would be (I've never messed around with OBSE scripting), and to be honest math beyond basic algebra is not my strong suit, so even if I did I might need help figuring this out.

So far, based on the descriptions in the ini alone, what I've done is this:

Set ObXPSettings.multXPNeeded 			to 1		; 1Set ObXPSettings.multXPNeededBase 		to 2000		; 1500Set ObXPSettings.multXPNeededLinear		to 100	 	; 150Set ObXPSettings.multXPNeededQuadraticSlope	to 2 		; 1Set ObXPSettings.multXPNeededQuadraticAmp	to 20000	; 20000On top of this, I've also changed the following:Set ObXPSettings.multXPKillLevel 	to 0.5		; 0.3

The logic of the first section being that the NeededBase increase is going to effect everything, while the QuadraticSlope increase will slightly increase the total XP needed per level as well but bring down the level where quadratic increase slows, to around the same level I stop finding anything that outlevels me significantly. At which point the lower NeededLinear value will keep the total XP needed at a lower total level than it was previous (I hope?).

The MultXPKillLevel change was a two-birds-with-one-stone move. In part it compensates for the fact that I set to zero "rested" XP (don't like that functionality, originated with MMORPGs trying to encourage people to play alts to keep them busy...) and set sneak bonus to 1 for no bonus. I actually contemplated setting it to less than one, since sneak kills are easier, not harder, than detected kills... but in the end I decided, a kill is a kill is a kill. And, overall I just want the lion's share of my XP coming from combat compared to the other things I can get XP for, without removing those other things entirely.

The MultXPKillLevel is actually the bit I'm most curious about. The ini is vague. Is this a flat increase that will multiply all kill XP by 50% where it had previously been 30%? Or is this interacting with my level and the base number (and any other part of the killXP equation that I don't know about/understand) in a way that will cause it to have an increasing effect as my level goes up? The latter would be my preference, obviously, as long as the effect isn't insane.

In any case, thanks for taking the time to read, and any feedback (from anyone who understands the equations here, for that matter, not just Andalay) is appreciated.

Hey Ty! I've actually had questions like this a couple of times recently, so I think what I'll do is post my spreadsheet for people to download. I'll need to fix it up a bit, but basically it will have the levelling equation in it, with the default numbers and graph. Then I'll add a second column where you can put your numbers and the spreadsheet will display the new graph. That might be the best way for you to see the results of playing with the numbers. Increasing the Quadratic Slope to 2 will slow down your levelling by quite a bit, so you may not want to raise it that high. I would strongly recommend you not alter the basic equation anyway because SirFrederik did develop it as part of the whole system, so all the point rewards complement the levelling formula. If you start changing one without adjusting the rest of the system, you may not get the results you expect. That's why I haven't touched his equation. I was looking at implementing the 3rd edition Dungeons & Dragons formula, but I would have to rewrite and rework everything and decided that I just couldn't balance the mod by doing that.

The formula for kills is a little more complicated because it figures out how powerful the enemy is compared to you. It also checks to see if you have any companions and if they killed the critter for you, then you only get a portion of the normal kill points. But for the specific parameter that you are looking at, it is the extra point bonus you get as you get higher in level. It is a bit of compensation for the fact that you need more points to increase in level at higher levels. So basically it sounds like it will do exactly what you want and increasing it to 0.5 would be a pretty good adjustment. I wouldn't raise it too high.

So give me a bit to fix up that spreadsheet and I'll upload it to the Nexus download page. It might be a day or two. Also, it will be in OpenDocument Data format, so you'll need OpenOffice for it - OpenOffice is free. If you want to play in the meantime, I suggest you set the Quadratic Slope to 1.2, perhaps a bit higher, but 2 might be a bit too high. Although with FCOM, maybe you could get away with a much higher number than what I would use.

[Laura Simmonds]

Using FCOM and I've set both multXPNeeded and multXPNeededQuadraticSlope at 2. Still feel it's too fast, pondering upping them some more..

[Justin]

Using FCOM and I've set both multXPNeeded and multXPNeededQuadraticSlope at 2. Still feel it's too fast, pondering upping them some more..

Really? Wow. Ok, good to know. I might add that to the docs as a recommendation for FCOM users then.

[Brandon Bernardi]

An update on the problems with DR 6, Enhanced Hotkeys and MenuQue:

OBSE 20 beta 6 has been released. This should have a fix to the problem that Scruggsy would like people to test. Scruggsy says it is not the fault of those other mods, rather they uncovered a bug in the OBSE code.

Since Oblivion XP needs MenuQue, there were some issues for people running Oblivion XP, so I am mentioning this here as well. I suspect there will be updates soon in the threads of the other mods affected.

Just to let you know, I have upgraded to XP 4.1.9 and added Menuque. I did have problems with the game crashing when I tried to increase Athletics from 24 to 25. I was able to get around this by going to an Athletics Trainer and train. The same crash happened when I tried to increase from 49 to 50. Again, I was able to get around that by going to an Athletics Trainer.

I then grabbed OBSE 20 beta 6 and tried this again. The game does not crash when I increase Athletics from 24 to 25 anymore. The screen that shows up has only one character on it. "O" or "0" (I'm not sure whether it is the letter or the number.

[Monika Krzyzak]

Andalabay ehy mate! Good to see that your mod is not dead I'm joking ofc! Btw,since I am going to finally play oblivion and I'll use FCOM(yea 4 overhaul almost translated)..Have I to tweak anything in the ObXp ini file?

p.s. Am I doing an error by using FCOM complete on my first game?(I have played it but..always stopped because of translations/textures etc)

[Angus Poole]

Just to let you know, I have upgraded to XP 4.1.9 and added Menuque. I did have problems with the game crashing when I tried to increase Athletics from 24 to 25. I was able to get around this by going to an Athletics Trainer and train. The same crash happened when I tried to increase from 49 to 50. Again, I was able to get around that by going to an Athletics Trainer.I then grabbed OBSE 20 beta 6 and tried this again. The game does not crash when I increase Athletics from 24 to 25 anymore. The screen that shows up has only one character on it. "O" or "0" (I'm not sure whether it is the letter or the number.

Well I'm glad it's not crashing anymore, but it does sound like we have something fishy going on. I haven't had a chance to test this yet myself, but I will do so shortly. It sounds like something has happened to GetDescription, which is the OBSE function that I'm using for this. I will test and see what I find.

Andalabay ehy mate! Good to see that your mod is not dead I'm joking ofc! Btw,since I am going to finally play oblivion and I'll use FCOM(yea 4 overhaul almost translated)..Have I to tweak anything in the ObXp ini file?p.s. Am I doing an error by using FCOM complete on my first game?(I have played it but..always stopped because of translations/textures etc)

You're using FCOM on your first play-through? You're crazy! :rofl: Well have a look at omeletted's post above. It sounds like you might want to increase the Quadratic Slope to 2. She also increased the multXPNeeded to 2 as well. Basically you might find yourself levelling too quickly with the base settings.

[SamanthaLove]

Thank you for a great mod

Quick question just started using XP had a strange problem where my block, heavy armor and armourer skills just randomly went up by 1 level half way through the prison at the start of the game, Don't know if it was supposed to happen as i havn't been using those skills.
Here's my load list incase anyone can spot if i have something that clashes

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[Max Van Morrison]

@Andalabay why am I crazy?because I am playing 4 overhauls on my first COMPLETE playthrough?Well I'll not have time to play it twice,so I am choosing to get the greatest oblivion experience:D am I doing a big error? I think that FCOM can just make Oblivion better and bigger(even if I haven't ever seen a such big game).Btw I'll check these settings

[Manny(BAKE)]

Thank you for a great mod

Quick question just started using XP had a strange problem where my block, heavy armor and armourer skills just randomly went up by 1 level half way through the prison at the start of the game, Don't know if it was supposed to happen as i havn't been using those skills.
Here's my load list incase anyone can spot if i have something that clashes

Spoiler

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It doesn't matter whether you use them or not - Oblivion XP doesn't work that way. Your skills no longer increase by using them. The only time you can increase your skills is when you level-up - then you spend skill points to increase them. If they went up during the tutorial dungeon, then it's probably because you read a skill book. Reading books that improve your skills will increase them, just like they do normally.

Make sure you don't have any other levelling mods active. I don't see any of the standard ones in your LO, but you do have some mods loaded that I'm not familiar with. Kragenir's Death Quest messes around with your stats quite a bit, although I didn't think it would kick in during the tutorial dungeon. It's usually after you start doing KDQ quests. Some of the choices you make when doing the quests will alter your statistics. It doesn't conflict with Oblivion XP - in fact KDQ has Ob XP support built in - just saying that you might see your stats change when playing it.

[Jinx Sykes]

@Andalabay why am I crazy?because I am playing 4 overhauls on my first COMPLETE playthrough?Well I'll not have time to play it twice,so I am choosing to get the greatest oblivion experience:D am I doing a big error? I think that FCOM can just make Oblivion better and bigger(even if I haven't ever seen a such big game).Btw I'll check these settings

Yes! We usually recommend people play Oblivion un-modded at least once so they get an idea of how the game works. FCOM makes the game a lot harder and it changes some of the basic "rules". Oblivion was designed so that enemies level with you, so that you'll never be overmatched. FCOM changes all that. Don't be surprised if you die several times, just in the tutorial! Also, you need to get used to the controls and how the combat and magic work. You have given yourself the task of learning all that, while having to deal with all the changes your mods make.

You shouldn't even run Oblivion XP until you've played with the basic levelling system. The problem is that you can't judge if the rate of levelling is working for you or not because you haven't played the vanilla game. So when I say that you might find you are levelling too quickly, you would have no way of judging that.

If the game came packaged the way you have it now, then you would have some assurance that all the pieces are balanced and set up to work with one another. You don't have that assurance because you've loaded a bunch of mods from all different authors. Judging whether a particular load list works for you is a matter of experience. Every player is different and has a different playing style. I've never run any of the overhauls. I don't think any of them would suit my playing style or my tastes. When people come to me and ask if Oblivion XP will work with FCOM, I say that I know it's compatible, but I have no idea what settings need to be changed to make it work better. I have to go on feedback from other players for that. That's why I noted omeletted's comment and said I would add it to the readme. I know FCOM adds a lot more monsters and I know you will encounter tougher monsters much earlier than normal, so you will accumulate experience points much quicker than normal. So I'm not surprised that the levelling parameters have to be adjusted. I was a little surprised by how much.

So that's what I meant by my comment. I hope you haven't set yourself up for frustrating experience that has you quitting the game 10 hours in.

[Ella Loapaga]

Thank you for the reply
No leveling mods loaded or skill books read proberly just a strange clash with another mod, I will see if it happens again

Many thanks

[luke trodden]

@Andalaybay Mate I know how the vanilla levelling system works and I didn't like it at all;in fact I was using Francesco and I was going to add MMM.Then I got the idea to play with full FCOM..Damn you are making me sad-:/ I'll judge once I start playing..hopefull this weekend

[Susan]

@Andalaybay Mate I know how the vanilla levelling system works and I didn't like it at all;in fact I was using Francesco and I was going to add MMM.Then I got the idea to play with full FCOM..Damn you are making me sad-:/ I'll judge once I start playing..hopefull this weekend

Ok, so it sounds like you've had some experience with playing the vanilla game then (that's what we call un-modded Oblivion). Don't get too frustrated - just realize that FCOM is going to be hard! Save the game lots (in different slots). Then if something doesn't work, you can go back to an earlier save and try a different approach.

[:)Colleenn]

A game without challanges is a boring game.How would be a life without challanges? in your opinion,would FCOM make my oblivion worse or better? even if you haven't played it,I think you know it's features

[Naomi Lastname]

It doesn't matter whether you use them or not - Oblivion XP doesn't work that way. Your skills no longer increase by using them. The only time you can increase your skills is when you level-up - then you spend skill points to increase them. If they went up during the tutorial dungeon, then it's probably because you read a skill book. Reading books that improve your skills will increase them, just like they do normally.

Make sure you don't have any other levelling mods active. I don't see any of the standard ones in your LO, but you do have some mods loaded that I'm not familiar with. Kragenir's Death Quest messes around with your stats quite a bit, although I didn't think it would kick in during the tutorial dungeon. It's usually after you start doing KDQ quests. Some of the choices you make when doing the quests will alter your statistics. It doesn't conflict with Oblivion XP - in fact KDQ has Ob XP support built in - just saying that you might see your stats change when playing it.

Kragenir's Death Quest doesn't kick in until level three after you sleep. I love that mod.

[Logan Greenwood]

A game without challanges is a boring game.How would be a life without challanges? in your opinion,would FCOM make my oblivion worse or better? even if you haven't played it,I think you know it's features

I really can't answer that For me, personally, OOO does too much - it changes too many things. I don't want more monsters, so Fran's or MMM are out. If I was play an overhaul, I would be inclined to try TIE.

Whether you use FCOM or not is a matter of personal taste. It's like saying vanilla ice cream is better than chocolate!

You've got it all set up now, so give it a try.