[REL] Oblivion WarCry New Dimension EV : IV - Oblivion

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:33 am

Can you be any more cryptic?
So, for those who can't use your house mod, can you offer the answer as to what effects they have? Or is there no way to know in the German version either?

Sorting by effect length I assume the following:
1 second poisons probably add instant damage (fire or frost or shock) on strike.
The over time potions probably damage health over time, just do not know magnitude or effect.

Ups yes.
You have various effect with difference lenght.
1 Type with effect on your self and Type 2 with effect on strike.

1 Second Poison: Kill the enemy on strike (1 hit Kill)
45 Second Type 1: Damage Fatigue
45 Second Type 2: Damage Magicka
25 Seconds Type 1: Scales smaller
25 Seconds Type 2: Scales Bigger
etc.

Collect some with the same length, use one of them and notice the effect.

So is there anything from the German manual that may explain these or is this just a mystery thing that never gets truly revealed to anyone?

Latter

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:51 am

Version 1.21 is online

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:54 am

Version 1.21 is online

Thanks for the update NNW! Is there any record of the changes that were made for 1.21?

Thank you

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:29 am

I tried updating but as soon as I did I went to the character select screen and I was missing textures or meshes or something. The snake race was missing a texture and the Nehvey or whatever it was called was missing both a mesh and texture. Not sure why since version 1.10 seems to have everything in order so I assume it's a problem with 1.21 since 1.10 didn't have those issues.

The problem seems to be missing mesh and texture for the Navi race and missing face textures for the Yokudo and Tasaei, not sure if anyone else is having this problem but I ran 1.10 for a long time without any simular issues so I'm thinking it's something weird with 1.21.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:07 pm

Has anyone else had containers show up as missing textures? I am sure i installed it right but any help would be apperciated any help

Nevermind i forgot to add the previous updates when installed the mod. That was the cause.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:55 am

I tried updating but as soon as I did I went to the character select screen and I was missing textures or meshes or something. The snake race was missing a texture and the Nehvey or whatever it was called was missing both a mesh and texture. Not sure why since version 1.10 seems to have everything in order so I assume it's a problem with 1.21 since 1.10 didn't have those issues.

The problem seems to be missing mesh and texture for the Navi race and missing face textures for the Yokudo and Tasaei, not sure if anyone else is having this problem but I ran 1.10 for a long time without any simular issues so I'm thinking it's something weird with 1.21.

Ah this isn't a problem with the mod just anyone who uses it make sure to grab the 1.10 update, the 1.20 update and the 1.21 update, I forgot to grab the 1.20 update when upgrading from 1.1 to 1.21 so I had some missing resources problem seems to be sorted out now.

Has anyone else had containers show up as missing textures? I am sure i installed it right but any help would be apperciated any help

Nevermind i forgot to add the previous updates when installed the mod. That was the cause.

Ah thanks for bringing that point up. I was unaware that I needed the 1.20 update from the german site but it makes sense. Possibly recommend R3NNW to upload the 1.2Update to the TESNEXUS since I had to go to the german site to find it and I don't really understand german.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:02 am

Please download the

OWCNDPart21 - 25 from TESNEXUS to Update 1.10 EV to 1.21 EV

I have Uploaded an EV Installation Guide for ND 1.21 at http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=36260#

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:37 am

Please download the

OWCNDPart21 - 25 from TESNEXUS to Update 1.10 EV to 1.21 EV

I have Uploaded an EV Installation Guide for ND 1.21 at http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=36260#

Oh yea I see it now. Guess I wasn't paying enough attention last time.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:30 am

I'm wondering is there some reason that some of my skills are in german? I just leveled up and a screen came up which was all in german so i was not sure what to do. Also does this mod somehow change certain characters as i was thanking to Jauffre from the main quest but a different voice actor was saying the lines?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:47 am

I'm wondering is there some reason that some of my skills are in german?

Please use another HUD. OIO - NDs included GUI was designed for the german version.....

Also does this mod somehow change certain characters as i was thanking to Jauffre from the main quest but a different voice actor was saying the lines?

ND doesn't change the Voice from Jauffre.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:39 pm

I know you won't want to read this R3NNW, but I ran 1.21 through tes4edit cleaning and this is the result:
[Removing "Identical to Master" records done] Processed Records: 54543 Removed Records: 843 Elapsed Time: 00:00
no deletions though - I suspect these identical to masters are again due to translation issues.

Next I quote this part because, yes, I'm not as versed in examining esp records as some and am curious if these are real problems:

[00:00] Checking for Errors in [01] OWC - New Dimension.esp
[01:09] OWCPfeilxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxENDE [LVLI:01001652] -> Missing required members: Leveled List Entries
[01:09] OWCArmorHeavyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzENDE [LVLI:01001651] -> Missing required members: Leveled List Entries
[01:09] OWCWeaponxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxENDE [LVLI:01001650] -> Missing required members: Leveled List Entries
[01:09] OWCPackagexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxENDE [LVLI:0100164F] -> Missing required members: Leveled List Entries
[01:09] OWCArmorXXXxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxENDE [LVLI:0100164E] -> Missing required members: Leveled List Entries
[01:10] OWCClothesXXXxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxENDE [LVLI:0100D97A] -> Missing required members: Leveled List Entries
[01:10] Above errors were found in :GRUP Top "LVLI"
[01:10] OWCTravfromSkingrad [LVLC:010144AA] -> Missing required members: Leveled List Entries
[01:11] Above errors were found in :GRUP Top "LVLC"
[01:18] Flags ->
[01:18] Above errors were found in

ATA - Data
[01:18] Above errors were found in

OSN "Poison Info" [MGEF:0003E913]
[01:18] Above errors were found in :GRUP Top "MGEF"
[01:18] Male -> Found a NULL reference, expected: HAIR
[01:18] Above errors were found in

NAM - Default Hair
[01:18] Above errors were found in :OWCLuigi "LuigiBertone" [RACE:010113B1]
[01:18] Male -> Found a NULL reference, expected: HAIR
[01:18] Above errors were found in

NAM - Default Hair
[01:18] Above errors were found in :OWCYokuda "Yokuda" [RACE:01003E82]
[01:19] Above errors were found in :GRUP Top "RACE"
[01:19] Above errors were found in :[01] OWC - New Dimension.esp

They seem different than the last versions errors reported.

and one circular leveled list:
Circular Leveled List found: SE14GSEscortList [LVLC:00079C90] -> SE14GSEscortList [LVLC:00079C90]

In the seaworld esp there is this:
[Removing "Identical to Master" records done] Processed Records: 13115 Removed Records: 359 Elapsed Time: 00:00
Circular Leveled List found: SE14GSEscortList [LVLC:00079C90] -> SE14GSEscortList [LVLC:00079C90]
Again no deletions, but these do not seem to exist due to translations.

Not trying to instigate - just trying to clarify.

thanks for the update.

[edit] Also in your recently posted set of instructions - when creating a BAIN package you may want to emphasize that in repackaging - that you should rezip with 7z (or rar or some other form) because just putting in explorer folders into the Bash installers directory will create projects instead of archives and that can matter as projects can get skipped when crc checks happen. Archives are better.

[edit 2] Then further regarding BAIN. Due to the inability for even the latest version of BAIN to handle foreign (to English) characters the list of what cannot be installed has remained since the last English version of this:

Spoiler

Meshes\Armor\OWC New Dimension\UndeadSkelettr?stung\OWCUnplayableSkeletthandschuhe.nif
Meshes\Armor\OWC New Dimension\UndeadSkelettr?stung\OWCUnplayableSkelettlowerbody.nif
Meshes\Armor\OWC New Dimension\UndeadSkelettr?stung\OWCUnplayableSkelettnupperbody.nif
Meshes\Armor\OWC New Dimension\UndeadSkelettr?stung\OWCUnplayableSkelettSchaedel.nif
Meshes\Armor\OWC New Dimension\UndeadSkelettr?stung\OWCUnplayableSkelettSchaedelHelm.nif
Meshes\Armor\OWC New Dimension\UndeadSkelettr?stung\OWCUnplayableSkelettVollruestung.nif
Meshes\Armor\OWC New Dimension\VampirArmor04\OWCVampireBlackCatArmsch?tzer_gnd.nif
Meshes\Armor\OWC New Dimension\VampirArmor04\OWCVampireBlackCatArmsch?tzerF.nif
Meshes\Armor\OWC New Dimension\VampirArmor04\OWCVampireBlackCatArmsch?tzerM.nif
Sound\fx\OWC New Dimension\Spieluhren\OWCSpieluhrNehmtAbschiedBr?der.wav
Textures\Menus\Icons\OWC New Dimension\VampirArmor04\Armsch?tzer.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletB_Green.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletB_moonstone.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletB_n.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletB_pearl.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletB_red.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletB_Topaz.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletG_Green.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletG_moonstone.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletG_n.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletG_pearl.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletG_red.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletG_Topaz.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletS_Green.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletS_moonstone.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletS_n.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletS_pearl.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletS_red.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\CircletS_Topaz.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\DiadG_Diamond.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\DiadG_Emerald.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\DiadG_n.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\DiadG_Ruby.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\DiadG_Sapphire.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\DiadS_Diamond.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\DiadS_Emerald.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\DiadS_n.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\DiadS_Ruby.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\DiadS_Sapphire.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\ElvenG_diamond.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\ElvenG_green.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\ElvenG_n.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\ElvenG_red.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\Wgem_Dia.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\Wgem_Em.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\Wgem_n.dds
Textures\OWC New Dimension\Stirnb?nderneu\Wgem_Ru.dds

With the last version these were not handled by OBMM either (for me anyway), so the BAIN suggestion will result in issues.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:54 am

I am using another ui but still some skills are showing up as german but some are in english. Also a part of the main quest show up in german in my quest log.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:01 am

Circular Leveled List found: SE14GSEscortList [LVLC:00079C90] -> SE14GSEscortList [LVLC:00079C90]

About the circular levelled list, I think it is the one from SI that was fixed by the last patch, I found the same in every mods I tested with TES4Edit :
Circular Leveled List found: SE14GSEscortList [LVLC:00079C90] -> SE14GSEscortList [LVLC:00079C90]

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:48 am

By patch do you mean Unofficial or official? I have always had GOTY edition and it is patched to the last official since every installation.

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:05 pm

I have tired by deleting the menu folder and re-installing the ui mod i use but still some of my skill show up in german not all but some. I am using Oblivion Xp with this mod and just leveled up, i choose what i wanted to spend points on then clicked done but something else comes up afterwards but is all in german. Is there something i mite have done wrong installing this mod that could cause this? Thanks.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:00 am

I haven't got as far as in game testing yet, RevanIRL, but is it possible that you have installed mods in wrong order - what are you using to install them?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:01 pm

I use obmm for my mods

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:38 am

I am using another ui but still some skills are showing up as german but some are in english. Also a part of the main quest show up in german in my quest log.

Weird but I'm having the same issue. Not sure what's up as I tried installing Darnified UI over it and it still persist.

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:40 pm

By patch do you mean Unofficial or official? I have always had GOTY edition and it is patched to the last official since every installation.

Official, I don't use the unofficial : original Oblivion, Knights + DLC, SI, patch 1.2.0416. There was something about that circular list when SI came out... maybe somebody remember..... Bethesda made the patch.

Just for testing : I got this from OOO.esp :
Circular Leveled List found: LL0NPCArmorLightBoots75 [LVLI:00033E99] -> LL0NPCArmorLightBoots75 [LVLI:00033E99]
Circular Leveled List found: SE14GSEscortList [LVLC:00079C90] -> SE14GSEscortList [LVLC:00079C90]

This is not related to OWC-ND.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:14 am

OK - I misunderstood - I thought you were saying that patch 1.2.0416 fixed this and I was getting it because somehow my game was not patched to that.

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To confirm RevanIRL's posts above. Yes the skills are in German.

Actually I repackaged the whole thing this time and made separate BAIN ackages for the data files and the plugins. Hoping this won't lead to the need to defrag my HD each time I update this.

Even with being mindful of the BAIN packaging issues I pointed to above and making a separate sub-package for the menus folder and not installing the menus folder and having DarN UI installed after this - the skills are still in German.

With the menus folder installed - oh yikes - all menu options (main menu and when hitting escape) were only described by the numeral 0. This went also for attributes, and book pages in game. My recommendation to the English users is not install the menus folder at all and let Darn handle all that.

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:50 pm

Weird but I'm having the same issue. Not sure what's up as I tried installing Darnified UI over it and it still persist.

Go in the TESCS (construction set) and in gameplay, settings, scroll down to the s..... Translate from german to english right there and you will be ok. That's what I do.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:37 am

The thing is it happens even if i delete the menu folder and deactivate and re-activate the ui mod i use and also not all the skills appear in german. I mite try a fresh install and carefully add the mods again just in case

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:43 pm

No you are right as I posted above - it is a fault of the new plugin as I verified and the fix that Maxie is suggesting is to change the plugin with the construction set.

It seems minor to me - game won't break from it. Let the developers know and let them fix it.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:17 am

Ah okay so what plugin do i change in the consturtion set?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:48 am

My bet is the english version of the main esp.

If you've not worked with the CS before it will be some hassle.

Start the CS - load only that esp and set only that esp as active - edit away. save

My bet is R3NNW or nano will post a few fixes soon.