Due an ongoing DoS attack on the download of ND by Pagan-Tes-Mod.de which have caused over 10 Terabytes of traffic, Eddy has stopped the download and the work on OWC ND. This concerns the Nexus download too.

Why?

Both why would someone do that?

... and by stopping work on it don't the people who are attacking get what they want, so why stop?

Frustration, Jealousy, power? It's childish that's for sure..

Google translate from Eddy's post @ World of Elderscrolls:

Translations a bit wobbly, but I get the picture.

If ever it goes private - let me know - I want more.

Hopefully they get tired of this BS.

Free time for some people is not a good thing.

here on Sunday the 1st on the tesnexus site I see this message.


this is not good. why would these people try to take down a small site like his? he probably has Enemies!

Might not see much more work on this mod for awhile! please if anyone knows more, post it here!

freestone

wait, wtf just happened?

='Gekko64' timestamp='1304252427' post='17582126']
wait, wtf just happened?
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Originally posted by Eddy Qarakhanids in ski
On announcement of the upcoming event. Given the occasion an announcement.



Quote: Quote:
In recent days, the download server has been exposed by pagan targeted denial of service attacks. In the past days, the download server is of pagan targeted denial of service attacks have been exposed to. Target of these attacks is to the server to pull to overload, and the provider on board. Target for these attacks is to overwhelm the server, and to draw the provider on the playing field. No. privately funded amateur page may be something to endure over time. No private hobby page can withstand such a thing in the long term. Further steps will be discussed internally. Further steps will be discussed internally.



Explanation: Wikipedia explanation: Wikipedia


This approach is already another forum of the German com what heavily loaded and Addonays Web weapons, known from Addonays elven has one that is, shot from the net. Use this procedure to a different forum of the German com is been charged already strongly and scored Addonays Web, known from Addonays Elvish weapons, from the network. The pagan-team can narrow in close cooperation with the provider pays the already mapped. The pagan team has already mapping can narrow the cause in close cooperation with the provider. Other steps under consideration. Further steps will be checked.


I decided from OWC ND until further notice from the network completely remove the download and installation of the overhaul, with immediate effect cease. I determined the OWC ND download until further notice completely from the network to remove and to stop work on the overhaul with immediate effect.
are jealous and sick minds it happening everywhere. There are unfortunately all envy and sick minds. And who even begin to think about wasted knows who is behind it. And who wasted just a thought to know who is behind it. Whether there will possibly return to overhaul the download, I do not know. Whether it the overhaul EV. back to the download type is, I still don't know. The first is examined. That is still checked. If necessary. If necessary, if we did locate the originator. If we have tracked down the cause.


I thank the many fans of my work for their support. I am grateful to the many fans of my work for their support.
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bing translator.
looks like each line was translated twice, this also happens with google translate.

sigh.
looks like someone is envious! Jealous.

these days a group of kids can ruin nearly any site. one phone call can close a school for a day: bomb threat.

this could kill his site, mod might never be finished. from waht i read, the "Adonnys" mod site was attacked too, and taken down.

better save the files even if you are not going to play this OWC soon: you might never ever see them on the internet again!

freestone

some thoughts.

my first gut reaction was to think of removing OWC ND from my game-to-play, and then go back to some other mod list.
I might never see another update for this OWC.

Then on my walk to the Sunday coffee shop, I had a thought: that this here Eddy created a mod *so* humongous huge and wonderful sounding that
its Presence deeply Offended someone or someones just because these people felt "invalidated" by its sheer incredibility!

"Rocky mountain Sickness", a term, I read, used to describe how many Denver, Colorado, people feel when in the presence of the Rocky mountains immediately to the west.
They feel so little and so ego-overshadowed that they get very depressed.


Also I read how a muralist painted a huge wonderful face on a wall in a high school ball field and the kids immediately defaced it with graffiti. the artist went back to ask the kids why they did this, and he got one earful of angry kid"s talk. they told him that this huge face, full of joy and happiness, so made them feel like they were in the presence of a God-like figure that they were Invalidated as selves and made to feel worthless. *Got to get rid of it*.
The mural painter painted it over with a mural with just stars, a night scene. no kid from then on ever touched this mural!!

whoever did this to his site had 10,000-plus bot computers at his/their disposal. Really *really* wanted to remove this mod from existence!
probably as per my examples above, this mod so made them feel so "little" that they wanted it Gone.

So now I plan to play this mod *as* a statement!! unless if i get out of the beginning sewer entrance to find a ruined textures/meshes due to mod conflicts that I cannot live with at all, I will play OWC ND as a Statement. it might never be unfinished, might have German text here and there to be unreadable to my American mind, but
a mod SO treated by people: must be one mod incredible!

freestone

here on Sunday the 1st on the tesnexus site I see this message.

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Due an ongoing DoS attack on the download of ND by Pagan-Tes-Mod.de which have caused over 10 Terabytes of traffic, Eddy has stopped the download and the work on OWC ND. This concerns the Nexus download too.

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as of sunday 5 Pm eastern time, the pagan site lets one download the beginning file, the 1.4 gig file, so i think the downloads are back.

freestone

Well mod is dead from what Eddy is saying and it's a shame. Thankfully I do got all the updated files saved and backed up and plan to translate all unfinished text for my personal enjoyment.

Only 6 months before Skyrim comes out so I'm going to stop messing with my Oblivion file and just finish everything. Played too much FCOM so I now only have 1.21 Warcry which will probably be the last and .5 WAC which might be the last.

Thanks Eddy for all your hard work too bad to see you go, and R3NNW does this also mean you won't be working on fixing this mod anymore?

I might try and see if Eddy will let me redistribute this file but I don't have access to the german version so it would be English only if I rehosted it.

thanks Sculelos.

I was thinking that same thing, back when I first saw OWC ND. I had dabbled with most of the overhauls, gotten a bit into the game on numbers of occasions. I see Skyrim
coming too, and i read on rockshotgun that they really like witcher 2, which comes out middle of may.

so which grand Finale will I play?
why OWC and WAC minus the overspawn.esp!

seems to be much here.
yes a patch to finish the translation, might work after I began my new game, which is of course my downfall for years both with Morrowind and Oblivion!

!!
then go back and install it then find that a major patch has come out for it, then wait some more as a *major* 2.0 is coming next month, then a NEW supermod comes out!
even OWC has that "promised" 2.0 version, in early June! see what I mean?!!

game paralysis!!

some older games do not suffer from this so much.....

so unless Eddy changes his mind or you come out with a patch, this mod might be "finished" if he gives up.

freestone

Actually .5 of WAC is the alpha - the newer beta was released at beginning of the year.

You probably knew that though.

Yeah my major problem with Oblivion is that I start a new game anytime any major revision is made. Now Obliviously with major changes going on all the time it's impossible to get very far into any quest even though I have already completed the mainquest there is still a lot of content in even Vanilla Oblivion that I haven't really even played through but saying that I've probably played through a lot more modded content then vanilla.

I do use overspawn with a bash patch and it resolves most issues however there are a few overwrites here and there that might make very little Oblivion Warcry content not appear however I do find that the content replaced is very high quality in the first place so for me it's a non-concern.

Most likely if I ever do get around to patching a fully compatible Warcry: ND with WAC it won't be until both mods are dead and I get both mod authors permission to release a patched version of both. However I wouldn't add any content but merely fix any major bugs and rework the leveled list to be fully compatible.



Yea .1 is beta but I forget easily, either way no update to WAC for over 4 months so not sure if any it is still being worked on.

:)

nice

Perhaps Eddy might finish his major revision update that he was working on? I'm now using race balancing project with this mod which fixes the birthsign mistranslation so now I have almost a fully translated English version of Warcry New Dimension 1.21, only thing is the bearded races of WAC are a bit inferier to the regular races but I might make a patch later...

Why - the NPCs are not that prevalent and if you use the RBP bashable plugins you can get its races populating lists.

Unless you want to play the bearded races of WAC - then yeah. I find them annoying and when creating a character disable this and WAC - so as not to clutter the races when making a new character.

you *can* use the race balancing project with OWC?!

I thought that if you use this, the german language reappears with the npcs, even after the language patch, the RBP strips it away!
---or so i read.
but maybe eddy and people have fixed this with that new english patch!
[i wanted "Integration", which requires the rbp and the lame magic, but am afraid i have to remove Integration due to that concern.]

so is it now OK to use rbp so that i can play with Integration?!
bashing, of course.....

thanks...freestone

Hi

I don't understand why i cannot translate back the signs, even by installing improved signs after OWC ND AND loading its plugin after OWC esps.

Any ideas?

Freestone-

I use integration with it and with every install I've done since it was released. I've not seen issues, but my time to play is so limited right now.

What german language with the NPCs? You mean dialogue? Does it? That would be super easy to test. If you only mean the race descriptions then so what - who will ever see that after character creation. But no you said NPCs - what am I missing?

ThoMeuhGal-

Improved signs has an esp? Hmm maybe that 2009 version is later than what I have - checking ... Oh so the update does have an esp.

Well then likely the file paths between the two are different and likely that will mean a patch would need to be made. Sounds simple though. Maybe see what OWC ND assigns as the signs and replace its file path destinations with the ones from Improved ... that would probably be the safest route.

Yea I just checked my Oblivion install and indeed many of the signpost are back to english but there are still a lot of shop signs a stuff that are in German. It might be possible to just delete the textures from the Oblivion install to get them back to English, of course I'm not sure where they are and my texture folder is 9.72GB so it might take awhile to find them.

check out a pure sign replacer (without an esp) and see the file path.

Then see if that is also in OWC ND or if the path is changed.

If changed then replace with english (using target textures/meshes) - may require renaming.

If these signs are added by OWC ND and don't even exist in Vanilla - whole other matter.

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[edit] I just looked at Improved signs and OWC ND in edit. The new (to me) Improved signs only places two signs that are activators and that is all it does. All the rest are pure replacers like the older version of the mod that I have installed is).

But OWC ND - and just as I thought - reassigns the meshes of the signs (look under statics in edit). And they are activators, so just copying over entries from vanilla would likely not be enough.

It could be done though and I think a worthy request for future versions of the English edition.

Thank you Psymon for your (as always) very helpful answers.


So i'm not good with modding but, do you mean renaming/repathing improved signs meshes to the names/paths assigned by OWC would do the trick? Or maybe normal meshes won't work for objects now set as activators?

Well I'm no expert either ... I'm not sure what those activators do or if they are essential to other parts of the OWC ND experience

You could always test and see if it is more than a pop up saying what the sign says.

I say we rally petetions to have those addressed in a patch for the English version. I think that perhaps a lot of the hassles that happened for R3NNW in translating could have been bypassed by just making an English patch - like they do for Nehrim.

Hi I am working on a sign translation now, it should be complete in 1-2 hours, just gotta give me some time.

Edit: In 52 minutes managed to translate about 25% of the signs, looks like it will take another 3 hours or so to finish, so a bit longer then expected. I might not get to finish it until tomorrow since I have other stuff I need to do today.