Oblivion won't run

Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:33 pm

Hello

I have reinstalled Oblivion after having some major problems after... well, installing Oblivion again after a few months, I had some mod problems and had to reinstall because I found no solution to my problem.

But now I have installed the game again, with all expansions and official mods, pluss the ones I have personaly picked from TesNexus and other. I now try to run Oblivion via Obse, and it barely shows 1x frame of the Raveneye Production intro, before it shuts down with no errors at all.

I have tried running without Obse, I have tried disabling mods, but I am clearly doing something wrong.

May anyone help?

Here is my load order:

  • Oblivion.esm
  • All Natural Base.esm
  • Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
  • CM Partners.esm
  • HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp
  • Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
  • UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
  • Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
  • DLCShiveringIsles.esp
  • Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
  • LoadingScreens.esp
  • LoadingScreensAddOn.esp
  • All Natural.esp
  • All Natural - Enhanced Weather.esp
  • Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
  • Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp
  • All Natural - Real Lights.esp
  • Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
  • VanityCameraSmoother.esp
  • KF Chapel Shop.esp
  • Shield on Back 3.1.esp
  • Update My Statue.esp
  • Streamline 3.1.esp
  • DLCHorseArmor.esp
  • DLCOrrery.esp
  • DLCVileLair.esp
  • DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
  • DLCSpellTomes.esp
  • 1SB_OrthaeSword.esp
  • Adonnays Elven Longblades.esp
  • Ancient Silver Armor.esp
  • ANB_Emerald_Sorceress_Armor.esp
  • CapesandCloaks.esp
  • Hentai_SnowFlower.esp
  • JQ-Amulets.esp
  • Rogue Sun's Blood Lust Dress.esp
  • sepulcresorceressoutfit.esp
  • Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp
  • tona_whitesquall-armor_ver2.esp
  • Tyrael Armor.esp
  • Blood Elves and Egyptian Armors for Exnems body.esp
  • Blood Illusion and Arcania armors for Exnem's body.esp
  • Dude Wheres My Horse.esp
  • DLCThievesDen.esp
  • Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
  • OOO-Water_Weeds.esp
  • OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp
  • GTAesgaard.esp
  • SkyCastle.esp
  • TheForgottenRealm.esp
  • Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
  • DLCFrostcrag.esp
  • Knights.esp
  • The Lost Spires.esp
  • Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp
  • Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
  • HeartOftheDead.esp
  • xuldarkforest.esp
  • xulStendarrValley.esp
  • xulTheHeath.esp
  • XulEntiusGorge.esp
  • ULFallenLeafEverglade.esp
  • xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
  • xulChorrolHinterland.esp
  • xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
  • xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
  • xulLushWoodlands.esp
  • xulAncientYews.esp
  • xulAncientRedwoods.esp
  • xulCloudtopMountains.esp
  • xulArriusCreek.esp
  • HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp
  • xulRollingHills_EV.esp
  • xulPantherRiver.esp
  • xulRiverEthe.esp
  • xulImperialIsle.esp
  • Slof's Epona.esp
  • Disenchant.esp
  • Enchanting Enhanced.esp
  • Seph's new animations.esp
  • CTAddPose_v_1.esp
  • actors_in_charge.esp
  • ActorsInMadness.esp
  • shinyEmotions.esp
  • DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp
  • Cernasite - DragonEyes.esp
  • ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackFull.esp
  • Elves Of Lineage II.esp
  • KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
  • OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp
  • Ovinomancy.esp
  • SeductiveIdlesgloomfrostcustom.esp
  • Pose Thumbnail Poses.esp
  • Warglaives by Jojjo v1.0.SoB.esp
  • Bashed Patch, 0.esp


Kind regards, Zanctillia^^
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mishionary
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:17 pm

delete the oblivion.ini in My Games\oblivion and let the game recreate it. You will lose any mod edits when you do this so keep this in mind.

Or

Rename the oblivion.ini to oblivion.old (just in case you have some edits you want to keep as a new ini does not have them) and let the game recreate it.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:15 pm

delete the oblivion.ini in My Games\oblivion and let the game recreate it. You will lose any mod edits when you do this so keep this in mind.

Or

Rename the oblivion.ini to oblivion.old (just in case you have some edits you want to keep as a new ini does not have them) and let the game recreate it.


No, it didn't work, OB goes fullscreen, shows 0,01 seconds of the first intro movie, then it shuts down without any error message.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:37 pm

Turn off the bashed patch and try. I have seen where that can be an issue like this. If it is then you may want to rebuild a new bashed patch. If that does not work, deactivate all your mods and start checking one by one until you get the no load.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:50 pm

Turn off the bashed patch and try. I have seen where that can be an issue like this. If it is then you may want to rebuild a new bashed patch. If that does not work, deactivate all your mods and start checking one by one until you get the no load.


Tried with and without Bashed Patch, also tried rebuilding, will now start with one mod at the time.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:03 am

Yeah. Try disabling all your mods and see if it runs. If it does, enable one mod at a time and fire up the game. Also, are you running any OBSE plugins?
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:06 am

Have you BOSSed your load order? Read the BOSS log and make sure there are no missing masters.

If you have Wrye Bash, tweak the settings to disable the initial videos.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:27 pm

Yeah. Try disabling all your mods and see if it runs. If it does, enable one mod at a time and fire up the game. Also, are you running any OBSE plugins?


If you use OBSE there should be a log in the oblivion directory. Look at that to see if anything shows up that may help.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:35 pm

If you use OBSE there should be a log in the oblivion directory. Look at that to see if anything shows up that may help.


I just finished my troubleshooting, and of course, the problem was the last frickin' mod on the list: Warglaives by Jojjo v1.0.SoB.esp

Anyone have any idea why this problem occurs?

Also: Tried to load my old save, and the problem that made me re-install OB again still occurs... My characters face and body textures won't show, but it works on new saves, also, armor shows even it's unequipped.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:18 pm

I just finished my troubleshooting, and of course, the problem was the last frickin' mod on the list: Warglaives by Jojjo v1.0.SoB.esp

Anyone have any idea why this problem occurs?

Also: Tried to load my old save, and the problem that made me re-install OB again still occurs... My characters face and body textures won't show, but it works on new saves, also, armor shows even it's unequipped.


By face and body texture not showing do you mean they are invisible or not the right resolution? Use formid finder on the character to see what they should be using and are not. That will help you find some of the problems.

Are you using BAIN or OBMM to install mods (especially body mods)? Check archive invalidation in OBMM or BSA redirection in BAIN.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:06 pm

Also, read the BOSS log when you run it. The Vampire fix and citadel fix you do not need as you do these in the bashed patch now (they are under one of the options). Also, post load order from Wry Bash as that shows versions of mods.

Looks like you are using an older OOO version and using OOO lite? I could be wrong on that though. The latest OOO version only does OOO full which is not bad, depends what you want OOO for.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:27 am

I use OBMM, have tried Archive Invalidation, but it doesn't work. And yes, it by that I mean "Invisible", the body is totaly invisible, face too, but the armor shows, I can however, unequip the armor, but it still shows on the character, but only in a more brighter HDR.

And I use the latest OOO, 1,33, if there havn't been a new update? I also use the full version.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:49 pm

I use OBMM, have tried Archive Invalidation, but it doesn't work. And yes, it by that I mean "Invisible", the body is totaly invisible, face too, but the armor shows, I can however, unequip the armor, but it still shows on the character, but only in a more brighter HDR.

And I use the latest OOO, 1,33, if there havn't been a new update? I also use the full version.


OK, progress. OOO has a 1.34beta5 patch, only full version. You may want to update but that is not important now.
In OBMM under utilities, archive invalidation, make sure you have BSA redirection selected, check Autoupdate on exit, click Update now.

Then see about your invisible characters.

Also, gert formid finder or refscope and look at the missing objects to get where they are from. What body mod do you use? Looks like just a texture replacer like HGEC?
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:02 pm

OK, progress. OOO has a 1.34beta5 patch, only full version. You may want to update but that is not important now.
In OBMM under utilities, archive invalidation, make sure you have BSA redirection selected, check Autoupdate on exit, click Update now.

Then see about your invisible characters.

Also, gert formid finder or refscope and look at the missing objects to get where they are from. What body mod do you use? Looks like just a texture replacer like HGEC?


I tried BSA redirection, it didn't work. And yes, only HGEC. It's all funny because I still use the same mods that I used for the save before.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:54 pm

I tried BSA redirection, it didn't work. And yes, only HGEC. It's all funny because I still use the same mods that I used for the save before.


If you made sure you manually clicked the buttonin OBMM to update now in the archive invalidation screen then that is not it. I assume you reinstalled HGEC? Deactivate the omod and activate again and go through the choises again. This should reinstall the necessary files. But before you do this, uninstall any high rez HGEC textures you installed.

At this point you just want a working texture. I think with OBMM install order is important especially for texture replacers. You should look at BAIN, it would make all this easier to fix :)
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:55 pm

If you made sure you manually clicked the buttonin OBMM to update now in the archive invalidation screen then that is not it. I assume you reinstalled HGEC? Deactivate the omod and activate again and go through the choises again. This should reinstall the necessary files. But before you do this, uninstall any high rez HGEC textures you installed.

At this point you just want a working texture. I think with OBMM install order is important especially for texture replacers. You should look at BAIN, it would make all this easier to fix :)


I have tried reinstalling HGEC, but I think I could try manualy delete the high res textures before installing it again, but I have the omod file, so I don't know what files to look for. I have also NOT heard of BAIN.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:32 am

I have tried reinstalling HGEC, but I think I could try manualy delete the high res textures before installing it again, but I have the omod file, so I don't know what files to look for. I have also NOT heard of BAIN.


BAIN is part of Wry Bash and there is a thread on this forum. All the textures are under data\textures\characters.

But maybe just installing HGEC again may overwite them. I do not use OBMM too much so do not know for sure. Now the missing textures, are they with NPCs or YOUR character only? If only your character, are you using a different race than the default one, like Elves of Lineage II by any chance?
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BAIN is part of Wry Bash and there is a thread on this forum. All the textures are under data\textures\characters.

But maybe just installing HGEC again may overwite them. I do not use OBMM too much so do not know for sure. Now the missing textures, are they with NPCs or YOUR character only? If only your character, are you using a different race than the default one, like Elves of Lineage II by any chance?


I am using Mystic Elf from Ren's Beauty Pack, it is also only my character which is affected.

Hence: My new save, with my current installed Oblivion, after I found out about why it shut down on startup, is also a Mystic Elf, everything works with new saves.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:12 am

So you just want to be able to have this work with an old save, correct?

If that is the case, something was installed with the old game that had the textures you were using for your mystic elf, a texture that was not installed in the new game.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:52 am

So you just want to be able to have this work with an old save, correct?

If that is the case, something was installed with the old game that had the textures you were using for your mystic elf, a texture that was not installed in the new game.


I so happen to have a copy of "MY FRICKIN ENTIRE OBLIVION FOLDER", for emergency, a copy from when that save was fully functional. I will try copy the entire Character texture folder into my new game folder.

Wish me good luck...
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:23 am

Attempt was unsuccessfull, any other tips?
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:56 pm

Good luck but you may instead want to make an OMOD of it so it can uninstall everything you install. Also, you may just want to copy the textures for the mystic elf you are using.

Good idea having a backup :)
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:38 pm

I tried running my old save on the backed up oblivion, and the same problem occured even there, but the backed up oblivion still gathers it's saves from the My Documents section which the newly installed Oblivion does too. I have a large folder of old saves backed up aswell, tried an older save of that character with my newly installed Oblivion, found the same problem, but I tried another save with a character that was a Elf from Lineage 2, there was no problems there.

Will try load up an older save from that Mystic Elf on my backed up Oblivion.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:17 am

That didn't work either, maybe all my "Zanctillia" saves are broken?

Add: I made a new Mystic Elf character, I then transfered using Wrye Bash, the Facial textures from that save I am talking about, Zanctillia, the one that didn't work. I then had a fully functional face texture of that old character, so the facial textures work...

Also: Will be going to bed now, work tomorrow, just fill inn with possible fixes, I'll try ehm out tomorrow^^
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:04 pm

I tried running my old save on the backed up oblivion, and the same problem occured even there, but the backed up oblivion still gathers it's saves from the My Documents section which the newly installed Oblivion does too. I have a large folder of old saves backed up aswell, tried an older save of that character with my newly installed Oblivion, found the same problem, but I tried another save with a character that was a Elf from Lineage 2, there was no problems there.

Will try load up an older save from that Mystic Elf on my backed up Oblivion.


It just sound like you are missing the textures for the mystic elf. Probably Rens? If there is an esp file then it points to where it needs to go to get textures. So whatever happend to cause your charater to go invisible needs to be found. The save are only that, the state of the game. You need the actual files in the data folder. You can look at your save file in wry bash (in the saves tab) to see things about it.

You can go back on saves until you find one that works with the files you have installed but it will not find what you are missing for after the problem started.

However, the save will show all the esp files that it used thus at least showing what mods were installed but not mods that only had textures. (which looks like it may be the problem). Look at you old backup up oblivion folder. in the obmm directory there is the mods directory where all the omods are. Perhaps you are missing an omod of textures?
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