No. Bethesda makes better fallouts.

No they make better Fallout-style Elder Scrolls games.

They really have not demonstrated if they're good at making Fallout games yet.

You've really given up on the full arguments have you?

They have made one so fallout needs to be singular, and add game.

"No. Bethesda makes better fallout games."

You're welcome.

Bethesda is god at fallout. You guys are idiots. I have a list of 1,00 reasons that Bethesda is better hahahahaha.

And I have a list of 1,01 reasons of the opposite. That's one-point-zero-one. Huge, I know.

Well I have 1,02 reasons! Haha I win.

I have over 9000.

u mad?

I don't need a fan made list to tell me who the clear cut winner is..... Obsidian.
I bet that list was made by Bethesda, and therefor poorly written/ composed.
A piece of "the list"
1. We gots thingys that say stuff
2. Big BIG super awesome super mutants
3. A wicked cool radio host who screams his name so you know how kewl it is
4. A city.... Wait.... Get this, a freakn city ON A BOAT!! yea, we totally came up with that on our own.
5. We paid a well know actor to play your daddy, so you gotta love em.
6. Green crap EVERYWHERE. who doesn't like green crap?
7. Super sweet/ awesome guys in armor who are nothing but good, and like totally kick bad guy butt
8. Bet ya didn't see this one coming, it took us like a bagillion weeks to think of it.... Dun data dun, a giant freakn super kewlh robot with a super original name..... Optimus Prime, oh actually it's Liberty Prime... Told ya it was original.

I think fallout 3 was supposed to be as Sequel'ish as it could be without stepping into the original storyline too much.
Remember they didn't have Tim Cain and Chris Avalone with them back then.
But then they came along and wanted to "re"-do Van Buren (the original fallout 3), and they got the 'Go ahead' and thus New Vega was born.

I think we can ecspect alot more in the therms of Lore and Storyline now that they are working for Bethesda. They were even on the team working on FOOL (Fallout Online).
Fx, there was alot of talk about The Master in NV, and the whole FOOL teaser with 'The Master Lives!'. My 2 cents are on them going back to the roots of fallout and re-introduce to some old 'friends'.

I don't think you quite get one of the fundamental concepts of fallout.
There is ALOT of reference/tribute to other stuff and older games.
Rivet City is, i think, a tribute to Fallout 2. You know, the punks that lived in the old Tanker?
And yes, Liberty Prime is a reference to Optimus Prime.
I don't see the problem in this...?

Not sure what number "1,00" is but even if it were to represent "1" that reason wouldn't stand up. Let's hear it though. What's the reason?

It is supposed to represent 1.

It was also supposed to be a joke.

Here's my reason: ....

hold on, let me think.

ummmm....

a little help guys?

Anyways, ON TOPIC PEOPLE.

Uhhhh, didn't know I was talking about "fundamental concepts" of Fallout.
No crap there's "references" to other games in F3, practically the whole game was compromised of other/ older games ideas, characters, factions. It was my biggest problem with F3, there were hardly any original ideas that Bethesda could call "their own".

o i used to be a elder scrolls fan boy like you,
but then I took a new vegas to the knee....

Srs though it breaks my heart bethesda WANTS to make another fallout...it will sell but true fans like me will cry at the mediocre story and writing. Did you listen to sopphies r#pe story from in the theives guild? Or beat the main quest?

Really wish bethesda would get odistan to write the plot or make another fallout game..new vegas increased my IQ

odistan? LOL

Is that a new country in the Middle East?

I agree, Fallout 3 was not original in any way. They simply tried to cover as many bases as possible, and forgot to add anything of their own.

Personally, I don't think they "forgot" anything. They had more than enough time to make somthing original. It's just how they are.... Unoriginal. F3 displays that perfectly.

Im sorry im all for good humor but you have offended me and my god and my religion. I need to ask you for an apology beefore I report you for racism

edit: ill also accept a pokimon duel to the death

To be honest New Vegas's main story was [censored], as were a lot of the quests. They did much better with gameplay and what they added with the reloading and gun mods which to be far they didn't come up with. New Vegas was them taking other people ideas and improving upon it and at the same time making SO MANY bugs. The map lacked imagination as well, but I will say only with the top half, I enjoyed the lower half of the map. But the northern half and all the main quest after Boulder went downhill. It should have been about something other than revenge, especially when I never got the sense that the courier was really that mad about it.

Are you being serious? He made a joke about a spelling mistake you made. How is that racist?

Get off your high horse.