There's got to be a correlation between liking Fallout 3 and making posts which read like Torr dialog. Anyhoo, sorry I don't think I'm equipped biologically to do what you're suggesting I do but if I were I think I could think of worse places to do it than amongst fans of the series who showed obsessive love and care long before Bethesda's terrible misinterpretation of a reboot. It's like condemning a satanist to hell.



Oh dear. Well it is you I have had in mind this entire time I've been posting. I say things to myself like, "Please let this post not annoy WONDERWOMBAT of all the things" very often.

The humor is alright, and made me laugh a few times, but after the 30 minute dialouge I find out I just have to go fetch stuff while travelling across an open field full of nothing except bullet sponges. Then find that all the locations are right on the edge of the map.

C'mon now sis, that's a bit harsh. Even though I consider Fallout 3 an an ugly red-headed stepchild of the series I still gotta give credit to Beth for their, as they say; "first try".
It's not that bad.

Even though it didn't fullfill my expectations it paved way to gems such as New Vegas (and possibly more in the future?) so let's be grateful for that at least.

Well if sarcasm is all you have to reply with, then so be it.

Yes, it is. And then some. I can't think of a single redeeming quality. The very best elements of the game (I gag to even use that language) are lifted from the first two games and that which isn't is just downright deplorable (TUNNEL SNAKES RULE LOL!!1). And I'm afraid I can't run down the "At least it paved the way" road with you either since there existed other companies far more well-equipped and in the bidding for the franchise. Don't get me wrong, I'm very glad FO:NV happened (it was the happiest moment of my gaming life since the day I read the news of the cancelled "real" Fallout 3) but there's a part of me which just would have rather let sleeping dogs lie.


What else could I have to say to your previous post? I'm not here to gain the approval of others. I'm here to state my opinion as fully, briefly, often or rarely as I like. It's a message board.

I broke down laughing a couple times to be honest, but that giant wall of dialogue GOT SO ANNOYING.

Yes, reading is quite terrible isn't it?

It wasn't the dialouge it was just that I felt the build-up of some semi-interesting characters lead to points stated earlier.

The intro dialogue?
Of OWB?
It's not that it was lot of text that was boring, it was that it was filled with so much bullcrap comedy that had nothing to do with the actual storyline.
Sure it showed just how wacked out of their minds they were, but we could have found that out by talking to them one by one.
But to get a barrage of text out of nowhere, most of it which was just a bore to read through, isn't exactly a point in it's favor.
I chuckled two or three times during it but the rest of the time I just felt like I wanted to turn off the game.
Cause I don't want to just click through the dialogue in case I miss something important, but I didn't want to sit through all of that crap either.

It's like this, if I'm playing Planescape, then I prepare my brain for a lot of reading.
But when I play New Vegas I expect a decent amount of dialogue and if I want to know more I have the option to ask the NPC.
But here there were no option to it. I didn't expect that much dialogue to be forced onto me so I didn't prepare my brain for it.
In turn, it just became tedious like "let me go already, I don't care about your penls jokes! I just want to start the [censored] DLC!!".

So the problem isn't the amount of dialogue, it's the amount of forced dialogue out of nowhere in a game where extended dialogue is optional.

It could have used some more interesting characters, but I thought it did pretty good. But being there so long with the dialogue like I said was annoying.

Old World Blows right Gaby? but not for me... i'm easy to please cos i'm on 360.

Ps Dead Money FTW

I think alot of these posts should be in the NV vs FO3 forum. Fallout came out in the late 90s its 2012 franchises change. I dont know why everyone hates on bethesda because its not what they expected, @#$%y deal.

This thread got so off topic, respect my threads people

Given the bold former, why not simply ignore the new installments (at least FO3), since they so egregiously offend your sensibilities? If you were prepared to let the franchise go, let it go like so many Star Wars nerds who have turned their backs on the prequels.

Regarding the bold latter, I only wonder why. Why would you, who by all indications despises Bethesda with every fiber of your being (or at least most of them), come to the official Bethesda forums to profess your undying hatred? Because you enjoy the confrontation? To massage your ego by browbeating the mouth-breathing BGS fanboys? So you can enlighten us all with your sage wisdom, perhaps convert us into a turn-based, isometric-Fallout loving army to overthrow our new FPS-loving, semi-literate overlords? Many people here have a wide array of views to share, though few express their negative opinions with such pejorative zeal.

As far as the sarcasm goes, well, remember what Oscar Wilde had to say on the subject.

I hate Bethesda because they are terrible at making RPGs or meaningful games. They are one of the leading AAA developers out there and instead of innovating they pander to the lcd. And lets be serious now, we all knew FO3 was going to be dreadful long before it came out. Oblivion anyone?


Oh, well I have, dear. In fact NV was such a surprise and so "too good to be true" that I half-expected it to go the way of Van Buren. Lucky me!


Oooooh, you want me to respond, don't you? That was an awful bit of time you just spent winding me up! Well the answer is simple: I came here because for the first few weeks of Skyrim I was truly enjoying myself and wanted to be surrounded by like-minded others. Then my perception of the game started to change the more I played it and funny enough, I wasn't alone. Now I'm bored with it so I don't post much in that forum. I suppose Fallout speculation is about all my pour soul has left to do here. I suppose you'll just need to grow a thicker skin if I'm offending you so. Sheesh. You should see me on a bad day!

To get back on topic on Obsidian making another spinoff... a game working like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzYmQyHl2bc with optable well made TB combat and Obsidian's quality writing would be something I would drool all over for.

No thanks.

TB Combat? Pass.

FINAL FANTASY: FALLOUT.

In my very negative opinion TB Combat was an excellent way for primitive games to bypass a lack of engine power. They were fun, but they are a dying breed.

Primitive? Lack of engine power? Final Fantasy? What The [censored]?

Just saying, I'd prefer any future games not be turn based. I like chess well enough, but I'm all RPG these days

Being real time or TB has nothing to do with whether the game is an RPG or not. But TB makes for a better RPG. Less twitchy and more focused towards the "role". You have your preferences, though, and that's fine.

You do realize that VATS might as well be considered turn based?

I see nothing wrong with TB being an option, I probably won't use it but many others would.

I thought of it as a unique hybrid.

Just my preference to keep it in the VATS

Final Fantasy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgzRXieisk8

Yeah, totally. Things which are blatent compromises meant to placate fans of FPS games are completely fine as being considered 'hybrids'. That makes sense. And awesome to boot. Yay modern gaming!