Dear God, I hope this was a joke.

Game informer has like a ten page review with photos of skyrim.

I think they should team up, the first time walking out of the vault in fo3 was amazing, the story of being shot in the head in nv kind of made me go eh. I loved the exploration in fo3 and I think not having speaking holotapes was a horrible idea. I would also like more little stories or just more entries in computers. I like both games equally because they're different and you can't compare them in my opinion.

I do prefer the different ways you can go storywise in fnv.

Those images are, unfortunately, not available for people who aren't subscribers. (Scans are an option, but that's not what I meant). I personally have seen some scans, and the new engine looks spectacular.

The voice acting was good in both games although I think in Fallout 3 case it just needed a bit more of them.And I liked the Holotapes I kind of missed them in NV

Personally I think the voices of both Oblivion (not related to this conversation, but relevant anyway) and Fallout 3 were too few. E.g., all the guards having the same voice; some (too many) settlers in Megaton, for example, sounded too similar. I have no problem with recycling voice actors, if only they'd hire some more. However, I felt that Obsidian hit the nail closer to the head in New Vegas, though not spot on. There was a lot more diversity, IMO.

No. There were several companies in the bidding for the Fallout franchise (Bioware being among them), Bethesda won. Fallout would have marched on without Bethesda.



I agree that Obsidian's writing was much, much better. I understand most people have experienced bugs, but I honestly haven't seen one since launch day (they did the first patch the day after), so I'm not complaining on that front.



Well, I hope Bethesda's writing improves if they helm the next Fallout game, because Fallout 3 had awful writing (I think we agree on this). Though I do have to concede the point that Bethesda learns from past mistakes.

Your right about variety... But The choice did well by Peter Cullen and Frank Welker. I remember Peter Cullen when he voiced Venger on D&D (and Frank Voiced Uni). Frank did both Fred & Scooby Doo. Over the years they carved out nice careers doing voice work; (though admittedly they are among an elite few in the business. Frank has been said to have 1200 distinct voices... whether true or not, he has an undeniably amazing talent for it).

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I liked what they did with Bethesda's Fallout.
I would really hope for Obsidian to do more Fallout games (even if not the official numbered ones). If Fallout 4 isn't closer to FO:NV than FO3, I'll likely be sticking to the spin-offs.

Ok I know this is off point but if Bioware did get the rights to make a Fallout game do you really think they could have done any better then Bethesda? Fallout 3 is known as one of the best games ever made like it or not, you telling me that Bioware could have done better I think Obsidian and Bethesda would run circles around Bioware when it come to Fallout.

Me2 completely fell short yet it is getting a crap ton of awards, I don't get it.

Thanks for that clip Gizmo, although I only have a passing familiarity of most of the people, I at least knew of and recognised them.

He is very good, at first the tinny sound and fisrt few american accents made it hard for me to tell.
Later on I could tell the range he had.
When it came to Ali and Frost I had slight doubts, but just I figured since it was a roast those accents were hightend in a comic way to play to the crowd.
First time though I've heard a more natural Brit accent rather than Po' sh or cocker' nie, so he has a fan in me straight off.
I'll check out his own voices as he does have a wonderefull skill,
Maybe with full character voice acted games, coming out more and more we'll see more like him.

I really wouldn't care either way. I've loved all the fallout games.

Yes, they could have written a decent story, something with decent voice actors (Unfortunatly the Main PC too probably.. Bah) and pretty sweet sidequests.

Who thinks Fallout 3 is one of the "best games ever made"? Is that an official word from somewhere?
I mean, you can't trust the press - as soon as the first NV details on the improvements over Fallout 3 emerged, the very people who had been jacking off on a FO3 box since its release turned their coats and suddenly started finding flaws from it. It was really a fun and informative to read the gaming press at that time.

Please, your just mad because it is one of the best games ever made and theirs nothing you can do about it. lol

Hells no. even if there are elements of FONV that are better than FO3 its not all because obsidian was envolved. they improved some things and screwed up every thing else. they merely added to the game, not made it from scratch. if obsidian had made this from scratch, it probably wouldnt even got finished (ie, abandoned like it was for FO3 and then gamesas picked it up... or does no one remember that?)

What did Obsidian screw up for New Vegas? Was it the exploring?

FO3 aka Van Buren was not abandoned because they (Black Isle) svcked at making games. It was cancelled because Interplay ran into money troubles. Black Isle broke up after Interplay gave VB the axe.

No. Very little exploration. Uninteresting destinations. I finished the game one time, and i just don't want to do it again. The story doesn't change, and the story is the game. I want a Beth game, not an Obsidian game.

Now if there is opportunity to have an obsidian parallel development, in addition to the Beth series, then that's fine with me.

soooomebody doesn't know that Fallout: New Vegas has already sold more copies than Failout 3 has...

you never cared about exploration lol, well its pretty fun to explore for me, FO3 did have more dungeons and enemies to fight, and thats a little weak in new vegas, but they did make a good game and the improved a lot of things that were lacking for sure, storyline, skill/perk/special system, added more weapons/mods etc. they did address a lot of complaints from fallout 3 but they do need to add more combat to the game and give a bit more of a sense of danger in general, once you hit level 20 or so new vegas is pretty easy except for a few areas, 95% of the map becomes too easy to move around.

one;crap load of bugs (more than usual)
two;sloppy layout of physical things (static objects floating, interior roofs not connecting, several objects imbedded in others)
three: yes exploring ( I don't mean dungeon crawling, I personally dont want it to be like oblivion etc. but there could have been more space in between objects. example: where in the map is the Mojave desert, the two dry lake beds doesnt = a desert.)
four:weird geography lay out, like north of free side awkwardly makes a sudden transition from urban city landscape and immediately into farms. I don't recall any farms one mile north from the strip in real life.
five: deliberately withholding content that should have been in game at release but shipping it as exclusive content untill further notice (supposing that dead money will every go to other platforms, and I am not an angry ps3 owner I have 360 so I could get it if I wanted)

Bethesda should do the radio, map, and things to kill. While Obsidian should do everything else, especially the writing. While New Vegas lacked the good exploring and the good killin' that the Capital Wasteland had, it had a really good story, unlike Fallout 3 where you had really no choice but to help the BoS...In game characters where also good. Radio New Vegas leaves something to be desired though. Truth be told, while New Vegas lacked in exploration, it compensated it with a metric-butt-ton of quests. I personally like when you have a lot of quests, even if some just make you g back and forth, but they should add collecting items like F3 had quantums, pre-war books, cameras, etc. But whatever the plan may be, as long as Obsidian makes the story...good enough for me.

Oh I see your logic, so, the more copies it sells - the better the game.

So, going by your logic - Wii Fit is the greatest game ever...

Okay, since you brought it up, no it is'nt, but thanks for pointing that out so now we can say that Failout 3 is'nt a good fallout game.

Fallout and Fallout 2 are.

Yes but NV sales has been helped by the massive success of fallout 3. a lot of people bought it after loving fallout 3. im sure fallout 4 will sell even more copies again