Oh my, it's this thread again.

Okay, if Obsidian is to create another Fallout game (not a spin-off :stare: ) then Bethesda, for [censored]s sake give them enough time, at least 6 months more than you gave them for Fallout: New Vegas, preferrably more.
And do your damn QA this time around and postpone the game if it itsn't polished, don't just rush it out.

No Obsidian definitely shouldn't make another spin off before Fallout 4, the graphics for New Vegas were very dated because of the old engine. Just look at the Creation Engine for Skyrim and the improvements made there in comparision. Bethesda have learned that they are the only ones who should be making Fallout games from now on.

Really Graphics are all that matters to you? That's why you don't like New Vegas because of "dated graphics" and that's why "Bethesda has learned they should be the only ones making Fallouts?"

Seriously if thats all that matters to you in what makes a good game, more importantly a good Fallout game.. I feel sorry for you.

On topic. Now that Obsidian has Tim Cain on staff, they should make another Fallout Game :mohawk:

love to see a new and proper fallout game back with the originals crew.

I'd like to see Obsidian on the Fallout 4 cover.

No of course graphics are not all that matters to me. But its 2011 and graphics have made a big leap in the last few years and Fallout games need to catch up with that. I prefer what Bethesda does with the Fallout world I just didn't like the direction Obsidian took the game.

New Vegas has the same Graphics as Fallout 3, and even in 2008 I thought Fallout 3 looked extremely dated.

hell even Skyrim doesn't look like a 2011 game.

And what Bethesda did with the Fallout world was terrible IMO, Obsidian seems to really understand Fallout while Bethesda just wants to make cool stuff.

I pefer the better story telling in New Vegas, don't like the many glitches. sooo work together... get it right? :confused:

No. Honestly, considering how awesome New Vegas is but also how awesome it could have been, they should have let Obsidian use the Creation Engine and have New Vegas released next year pinned as Fallout 4. It would be infinitely more awesome, especially with Obsidian developing more Fallout stuff from ground up. Could've should've would've.

Let's just have Bethesda make another Fallout that is a stickler for lore and the RPG aspects of the series. Also, believable and sensible plots. Honestly, I think they're perfectly capable if they focus on making a good Fallout game rather than just a good game in the Fallout universe.

What year was Fallout 3 released? 2008 What year was New Vegas released? 2010 Thats 2 years to improve the graphics, did they? No. Fallout 3 graphics were fine at the time but its 2011 now, there has to be an improvement made since then. And yes skyrim does look like a 2011 game, there's been a big improvement in graphics. Likewise what Obsidian did with Fallout was terrible in my opinion. Obisidian may stick to the history of Fallout and an RPG mechanics but what Bethesda did was make a fantastic game. I'd rather play a fantastic game then play a game that sticks to the rules.

I would love for Obsidian to do another Fallout game. I think they really brought something new to the table with the reputation system. But using the Gamebryo ... I'm not sure. There were some problems with that engine that I did not enjoy, and though I agree that using the Creation engine might take away from Fallout 4 using it, I would still like to have something besides Gamebryo. Any who, I think Obsidian should move the next Fallout game to maybe Florida or Georgia, preferably a swampy place.

I would love for Obsidian to do another Fallout game. I think they really brought something new to the table with the reputation system. But using the Gamebryo ... I'm not sure. There were some problems with that engine that I did not enjoy, and though I agree that using the Creation engine might take away from Fallout 4 using it, I would still like to have something besides Gamebryo. Any who, I think Obsidian should move the next Fallout game to maybe Florida or Georgia, preferably a swampy place.

I'd like to see them both.

Obsidian, Bethesda

the new game engine works good, super good actually

I think your looking at Oblivion, Skyrim's graphics are extremely good for a 2011 game so you are wrong.

By sticking to the rules Obsidian made a fantastic FALLOUT GAME. I rather play that then a TES game dressed up to just look like a Fallout game with really weak writing and little to no RPG elemets, that is Fallout 3.

Going by what you have said, the only thing you care about in a game is the latest graphics and things that go boom. You clearly don't care about Fallout at al by what "then play a game that stick to the rules comment."

Obsidian took Fallout back to what it is. A great RPF series with many options, following "the rules" established by the first Fallout games. Bethesda took Fallout away from the roots of Fallout. They made it for TES fans rather then fans of Fallout. I am hope that Bethesda, letting Obsidian make New Vegas... Bethesda hopes to learn how to make a real Fallout game. Hopefully they will be willing to think out side the TES Box when it comes to making a Fallout game that fits with the Fallout series.

And I think you are blind, Skyrim would have looked good a couple years ago, but in 2011 it looks dated, especially its very low res and muddy textures, crappy physics, bad face animations and bad animations in general.

I'm not a graphics [censored] by a long shot, but damn its kind of ugly.

Are you serious?
The first thing I have heard anybody say about that game is that the graphics are beautiful.

Nah, they could be better but I'm not complaining. I'm playing with everything cranked up to enhance it's graphics. It looks really good and has beautiful scenery but it could be better. I'm really happy with them so I have no right to complain.

Others have said they could be better. Most are happy with what they got. I am.

This comes up a lot, it's the whole "Bethesda made a TES game out of Fallout with a bad story".

What you guys aren't understanding is, it was Bethesdas' first try on the Fallout series, obivously they're going to incorperate more TES elements then they should've since they've worked on that series for so long.

And it was a fun game, they gave you a lot of stuff to do. It was a great game, but not a good Fallout game. Why? Because Fallout is a series in which it's very hard to be a good game by the series standard since the series is one of the best game series ever. And that becomes even more harder in which you're a developer that has much different tastes then the people who made it.

Bethesda deserves another chance.

To answer the question, yes. Especially now that Tim Cain is there.

The art style is extremely strong (and the level design highly artistic and well though out), but the textures are just so low res that it kind-of spoils the whole thing. Half the time they aren't even higher res than Oblivion. Once the texture replaces start rolling in this won't be an issue anymore though.

They didn't really make a fantastic Fallout game, they made an awful Fallout game. I haven't played any TES game so that point is completely meangningless to me and anyone else who hasn't played those games. Also it sounds like a really cheap shot. It has RPG elements and great writing unlike Obsidian who used one of the oldest cliches in the book for the main story. And extra dialogue does not mean better writing, if you listen to most of the dialogue of any character in New Vegas its enough to put your average gamer asleep.

I already cleared up the graphics point earlier I'm not repeating the same point over and over again just so you can get it. I clearly do care about Fallout because I want whats best for the series and thats Bethesda. Clearly whats more important to you is endless, pointless dialogue, flat characters and a boring RPG. I'd rather play a great game, thanks!

This opinion on anything made by Bethesda is not at all biased towards one way of thinking. If anything has the word Bethesda attached to it, you immediately

Boo hoo someone doesn't like what I like, better call him a cry baby.

With some modding Skyrim can be a damn fine looking game, just at the moment the really muddy and low res textures make the game look ugly, I can deal with crappy animations, so few games have good animations.

but it does have is good art design and world design.

You are completely wrong in this post, especially in the underlined part.

Fallout: New Vegas was very close to the originals which makes up most of the Fallout Series so it is the Fallout Series.

Fallout 3 is very different from the others and is even believed to not be a Fallout game by some people on these forums.

Cliches? Like a billionare genius who beat death itself and is now ruling a city he saved from nuclear war? Or a post-nuclear countriy based off of the Roman Empire's military (not the rest of it).

And involving the graphics they had to use the same graphics in Fallout: New Vegas as in Fallout 3, Bethesda specifically to do that.

Pointless dialogue? Its not pointless if you read it or understand what the hell they're saying. Flat characters? The characters in NV are far more interesting than those from Fallout 3 (and I actually liked Fallout 3).

And by great game I can tell you are just talking about fighting a never ending amount of enemies and scavenging right?

I loved Fallout 3 as much as I love the rest of the series but you simply do not understand what Fallout is about.