I have high hopes for the South Park RPG. I love South Park. I love Obsidian. I love the way it looks so far. If the price is right, this should be a fun play. Simple, right?

obsidian was only working with bethesda for fallout new vegas, obsidian is doing their own projects separate from bethesda, il be honest, i think bethesda is a LOT better than obsidian.

I'm going to disagree with the above opinion. Imo Obsidian is better, for Fallout for damn sure.

I really hate to see them waste their considerable talent on something so... childish I'll say. But hey, it could turn out to be a good game.

I hope one day Obsidian will have enough money to develop and publish their own game, these days with Steam being so indie game friendly I can see it happening.

This.

Obsidian gets the "most times shafted by publisher" ribbon for sure. A great developer that is dealt a bad hand over and over again. Here's to hoping they can publish their own stuff in the future.

Your opinion, not mine.

Have you ever played Never Winter Nights? Baldours Gate? Those came out when I was still fairly young, but their truly amazing.
So my question for you, what makes BGS "better" than Obsidian?
Personally, I believe Obsidian makes better RPGs, BGS makes games that appeal to a broader audience.

So south park is the code name for the new Fallout game?
South Park is somewhere in the mountains and they have almost always snow, skyrim plays in the mountains and there is snow too.
mhhhhh Fallout in the rocky mountain area?

i agree 100%

Hopefully co-developing Fallout 4.

In certain areas(exploration, game environment), just like Obsidian is superior in other areas(writing, story, characters). This is why Bethesda working with Obsidian would be the best outcome.

Obsidian did pretty much all of the work on New Vegas. The only thing Bethesda did for New Vegas was quality control (so people that complain about all the bugs, blame Bethesda) and publishing it.

So since Obsidian did most of the work on New Vegas. Bethesda was just working with Obsidian. Bethesda asked Obsidian to make New Vegas.

I still don't understand why they did this in the first place.
Why ask a complete separate company to make a game for them? I loved the end result, but don't fully understand why it happened.

Could be because Bethesda/Zenimax was busy with their current games, such as Skyrim, but wanted to follow up on the success of Fallout 3.

I like to think it was because Bethesda/Zenimax wanted to learn how to make a Fallout the right way. So they asked a company full of people that know Fallout, to make a Fallout game to fill the gap.

Really it was a win win for Bethesda/Zenimax. If the game tanked, they could say "well Obsidian crapped the bed" and Bethesda wouldn't get blamed by their loyal fan base. If the game was a huge hit (which it is) Bethesda can say "We were smart to get Obsidian to make it." Plus Bethesda/Zenimax makes alot of money for every little work. And they get to learn how to make Fallout 4 more of a Fallout game.

...no

FO3 was a very successful game, and bethesda has two franchises they develop themselves, elder scrolls and fallout, well after FO3 came out and was the game of year, game of the decade etc, people wanted more fallout so since bethesda needed to focus on making ESV obsidian got to make a fallout game to fill the gap between FO3 and FO4, obsidian does not own the fallout franchise, new vegas is not a sequel to fallout 3. FO3 will have a sequel, called FO4. so new vegas was an extra fallout game because of the success of FO3, and let me add this, i can understand your confusion, with misinformed people making stuff up like "bethesda wanted to learn how to make fallout so they got obsidian to make a game to show em how", those types of remarks are childish and stupid nonsense.

I agree New Vegas wasn't a sequel to Fallout 3, but it was much more of a sequel to the originals then Fallout 3 was. The fact is that Obsidian does know how to make a good Fallout game and Bethesda has so far shown that they don't know how to. Fallout 3 was a great game, but it was an Elder Scrolls clone set loosely in the Fallout universe. I sincerely hope that Bethesda does start collaborating with Obsidian on the next Fallout game, it would be the best of both worlds.

You do not know what a good RPG is 100%


but anyways....


they're planning to take over the world, have you not heard?

While that's true for the Elder Scrolls series, the only Fallout game in the series that Bethesda Game Studios got to work on was Fallout 3. What I'm saying is that the franchise, Fallout, is all thanks to Interplay and Tim Cain (who happens to be working for Obsidian at this moment ) who started the series with Fallout: APNRPG. Fallout 2 (the game Chris Avellone helped design) was published by Interplay, but developed by Black Isle. Basically, don't believe that Bethesda is the "all mighty original king of the series".
Um...what? ...No.
Wow, so what is this future seeing technology you have and where can I get one? Fallout: New Vegas was not an 'extra' Fallout game. I've heard this argument many times before, but Fallout 3 is totally irrelevant to Fallout APNRPG and Fallout 2. I seriously have no clue why they named it Fallout 3. It's on the complete opposite side of The States for Christ's sake.

Fallout: New Vegas, on the other hand, picks up on a lot of stuff from the classics. It's based on the cancelled Fallout 3 project "Van Buren", (designed by Chris Avellone and JE Sawyer, who also work for Obsidian) and has a lot more to do with the classics than Fallout 3. Which is why I feel Fallout 3 should have just been called Fallout: Capital Wasteland, or something. Fallout 3 feels like a spin off.

This is going somewhere, stay with me. Chris Avellone and J.E. Sawyer both worked on New Vegas and they are currently employed at Obsidian Entertainment. Just recently Tim Cain (nudge nudge) joined the team. I hope you can connect the dots, but what would it look like if Bethesda had BGS develop the next game in the series with these 3 devs right out there too. I'm going to say that Bethesda is probably going to let Obsidian develop the next game. Probably.

My point? Don't count on seeing the Capital Wasteland sometime soon. It's just unlikely. Hell, we don't even know if there are plans for a new game.

I think you're the misinformed person here. A lot of the people from Obsidian who worked on New Vegas were also the people who worked on Fallout 2, you know, the game that came before Fallout 3.

Hopefully Bethesda did learn a thing or two from Obsidian, and hopefully they'll let Obsidian assist them in making Fallout 4.

Of course another Fallout game is being developed, FO3 and F:NV were too successful for that not to be the case.

Furthermore, despite the opinions of many (including myself) that New Vegas improved upon FO3 in some areas, Fallout 3 in fact has sold more copies (thus far) and was better reviewed than Fallout: New Vegas (according to VGChartz and Metascore). I do think that New Vegas part spinoff to keep Fallout in the collective consciousness of gamers, part cash-in on the success of FO3 and an experiment in how well received a Fallout with a more "traditional" tone would be. But objectively speaking, Fallout 3 was the more successful game.

I would be shocked, stunned even, if BGS didn't have the heaviest hand in the development of Fallout 4. Black Isle is dead and Interplay has no input whatsoever into future titles. Neither will Obsidian, unless Bethesda wishes it (though they'd be fools not to). Fallout 4 will almost certainly have a massive budget and I think the chances that Bethesda turns full developmental control of the title over to Obsidian or anyone else are virtually nil. The best we can realistically hope for is a co-op project, though I suspect what we'll see is BGS develop and "consult" with certain key Obsidian team members.

It doesn't matter how it "looks" if certain key figures are left out of the development process of Fallout 4. All that matters to Bethesda is what will allow them to sell the most copies, have no illusions regarding that.

Hopefully, when they start developing it, Bethesda doesn't take the mindset after looking at FO3 and FO:NV, and think that better success = higher quality, because it doesn't.

I'm not saying that is what it means, nor do I hope Bethesda thinks so. But business is business, so you have to consider that they very well might.

South park Rpg ? who came on that idea ? LOL

I read the entire interview in GI and it actually looks and sounds really fun. They wanted Obisidian to make their game, to finally get it right. It's gonna be a sandbox type game.

Honestly, it's a brilliant idea.
There's not many games today that shock you when you learn their being made.
This South Park RPG, seems like a a breath of fresh air. With obsidian developing it, I can't see it being a fail, like how that other south park game was(N64)

Oh, WaterFront1970.....
I understand you love F3, but is it really necessary to try to show it's dominance over NV every chance you get?
Being captain obvious about F3 just makes me hate the game even more.
After F3 there will be a game called F4..... HOLY [censored]!!!! REALLY???!??!?

My question was in regards to why a separate company would be brought on to create a game for BGS. I couldnt care less if F3 was soooo highly reviewed and was game of the freakn millennia.
In my eyes New Vegas was the better choice, I don't need IGN or any other game review company to tell me what I like.