I read this while searching online and took i t into consideration and it could very well be true but decided to ask the experts (besides the developers). what do you guys think?

"Chancellor Ocato
A very small few claim the Ocato is an Ayleid. This can actually be very believeable, because it says in the Nu-Mantia Intercept that the Ayleids are not gone and will rule over the Empire one day. Look who is running the show during and after the Oblivion crisis."

I think you're making me him look sinister than he actually he is. I would think that he was given battlemage position because he wasn't as ambitious as Jagar Tharn.

I swear i'm not trying to do anything but I was reading online and decided to ask.

Edit:he could still be an ayelid,just doesn't hold a natural grudge or he could be like emperor palpatine who tries to make the champion into darth vader type of character

High Chancellor Ocato is an Altmer. (See http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:High_Chancellor_Ocato)

___The Word Merchant of Julianos

Yes but there is no ayelid race in the game, and is it not said the ayelids were absorbed into the highelf and wood elf races??

I dont remember have read anything like that but I can be wrong. My speciality isn't the races changes and such.

i mean not in game lore but as in race in console and setups is what i mean.. sorry for the misunderstanding

Well I'm not sure I'm following but in the Console and such he's and Altmer.

Mankar Camoran is a far better candidate for possible Ayleidic ancestry. I do not believe Ocato is at all.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Races

ayelid race isnt in races so they would have to insert him as one of the ayelid absorbed races, Altmer or Bosmer and altmer would be more suited towards a battlemage would it not?? So in lore basis he have some bit ayelid in him.

Edit: Brian, mankar's own ayelid ancestry should direct us to look towards more surviving ayelids. I am merely speculating, But if he is, he holds the entire empire at his whim...that would be good for E.S.5 storyline would it not??

I see you've taken this text from Le Drivers elderscrolls magazine, specifically from the section that features and article or thoughts on a specific part of Lore. It's not a bad source and the author of the article is credited by name so all the essentials are there.

Now the author mentions that some people think Ocato is an Ayleid, which is probebly factual as well but I don't think the argument provided for the reasoning of this group isn't a very good one.

Aside from the strange suggestion that because Ocato now rules the Empire, he must be an Ayleid, the simplest problems would be Ocato's name, as his full name is Ocato of Firsthold, a city on Summerset Isle, homeland of the Altmer.

The source provided also seems to be wrongly interpreted by this group as the Nu-Mantia intercept describes a threat to the Empire. Now we've had Mankar Camoran and Umaril threatening the Empire. Now especially Umaril applies for the recurring Ayleid threat, because he actually lived in the first Era. Though Mankar Camoran can also be connected with a little digging.

Yes but with all this growing tension with the oblivion gates and soon-to-be war and all wouldnt it be the perfect time for an even greater ayelid (or maybe even akaviri?) power to rise up and wreak havoc upon the land taking individual kingdoms eventually becoming as powerful as the empire it opposes. Such as camoran the ursurper tried. As for his name...
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tamriel:Ayleids , Second paragraph, wouldnt it be possible for ayelids to go back to summerset after the fall of white gold tower?? crossbreeding and eventual generations would lead to today. His grandsires could have been ayelid

I've probably lost this arguement but I've tried so...

The only thing connecting Ocato to the Ayleid race is that one statement, which is far from an official source. On the other hand, weighing the amount of information, both official and unofficial, that evinces Ocato's heritage as Altmeri, I believe that we can safely say that the aforesaid theory, while enjoyable to mentally explore, is insufficiently supported by established lore.

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___The Word Merchant of Julianos

IIRC, most of the Ayleid refugees ended up in Valenwood. The elitist Altmer probably wouldn't have tolerated the Ayleids, due to their radical differences in the means in which the two cultures chose to revert to the divine.

then wouldnt they be give petty jobs as a butler or maid or "mistress" the latter could lead to an illegitimate heir such as martin was.

Your lawyer is showing :poke:

So is yours! :poke:

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___THE (censored)-in' Word Merchant of the (censored) MAN...(aka JULIANOS bay-bee!) :woot:

(Those were a lot of words. I'll bill you for them. I'll send it Scamp to the poe side of Apocrypha, which is to say in Hermy's palace.)

ps

On a serious note, I was thinkin' 'bout having you look over a theory I've been scribbling down. The subject is more your area than mine. PM me your email or something.

Ocato ruling the Empire, I really hope not for him, otherwise i feel pity for the poor high elf, i think lots of barons, counts, dukes, princes, kings don't like him to be the new emperor, they probaly only tolerate him right now since he seems to be the only one capable of holding the Empire together, but for how long;

I personally think Ocato's desperate attempts to hold the Empire together will lead to a suicide mission. Haven't you heard that, though he sent the entire Imperial Legion to other provinces, towns and cities such as Ald'Ruhn still fell? Haven't you noticed the lowness of his popularity? Tell me, how many Counts, Dukes and civilians have praised Ocato as Imperial Battlemage, or worse, as Emperor?

Actually, in-game, half of the counts respect Ocato (Skingrad, Bruma, Anvil, Cheydinhal), Chorrol doesn't have an opinion, and the others (Leyawiin, Bravil) don't like him.

yeah but the count of bravil is screwed up already so does he counts ?

Uhm...

:bolt:

leyawin and bravil don't matter as much as the others in retrospect,If ocato is an ayelid as i beleve
he could start the 4th era with tamriel in turmoil

And if he's not, Tamriel will still be in turmoil.