Odd cell conflict at Colovian traders : IV

» Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:59 am

I am within the 18 hours of gaming with my new build.

And just now hit my first peculiarity:

For the first time since I play the game I have problem when I enter Colovian traders in Skingrad:
When I enter the cell it is dark, there is no floor and the vendor and Eyja fall all the time down.
I managed to hit TCL so I stopped falling, went to vendor, bought what he had for sale interesting and left the cell.
I guess I can repeat the procedure when comes the time to buy the upgrades for Rosethorn but I would rather fix this problem. any advice?
here comes my load order:

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Masters for: Streamsave_1.ess00  Oblivion.esm01  Jog_X_Mod.esm02  EnhancedWeather.esm  [Version 1.4]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  VASE - core.esm09  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm0A  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0B  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0C  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0D  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0E  Better Cities Resources.esm0F  NNWAEMaster.esm10  CM Partners.esm11  HorseCombatMaster.esm12  Oblivion Vwalk.esp13  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.4]14  DLCShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 1.4.0]15  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS.esp16  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp++  Shivering OOO.esp17  Better Cities .esp18  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp19  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp1A  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp1B  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1C  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1D  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp1E  EnhancedWeather.esp  [Version 1.3.5]1F  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp20  AmbientTownSounds.esp21  MIS Low Wind.esp22  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp23  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp24  WindowLightingSystem.esp25  AliveWaters.esp26  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp27  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp28  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp29  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp2A  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp2B  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]2C  KF Chapel Shop.esp2D  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.7]2E  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.5]2F  RAEVWD Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.7]++  RealWalk.esp30  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 3.4.3]31  DLCOrrery.esp32  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp33  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]34  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp35  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]36  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp37  Book Jackets DLC.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp38  Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp39  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp3A  AC2Gear_HGEC.esp3B  Female Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear -  EV.esp3C  Buyable Armor.esp3D  Foundable Armor.esp3E  Oblivion_Codes_Book.esp3F  ClassyClothingCompendium.esp40  StarX Katanas.esp41  Hiyoko_Store.esp42  SentientWeapon.esp  [Version 3]43  Unlimited Wear.esp44  XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp45  Slof's Extra Horses.esp46  Slof's Black Unicorn.esp47  Mounted_Spellcasting.esp48  Mounted_Trampling.esp++  LadyDeadlock_LoveYourHorse.esp49  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp  [Version Beta]4A  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]4B  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]4C  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.73]4D  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp4E  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4F  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp51  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]52  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]53  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp54  OOO-Ayleid Coin Add-on.esp++  OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon - LLOnly.esp  [Version 0.5]++  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]++  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]55  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]56  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp57  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b1]58  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]59  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5A  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5B  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp5C  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3]5D  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b1]5E  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3]5F  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp60  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  VASE - Cyrodiil for MMM.esp++  VASE - Vanilla SI.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.40Alpha]61  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]62  TamrielTravellers4OOO Vwalk.esp63  TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp  [Version 1.39c]64  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Archery_Deadly.esp++  FCOM_Archery_Deadly_Armamentarium.esp++  FCOM_Archery_Deadly_RealSwords.esp++  FCOM_Archery_Deadly_Artifacts.esp65  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]66  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]67  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]68  Armamentium female.esp++  Fransfemale.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]++  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp69  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]6A  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp6B  Gift of Kynareth.esp6C  Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp6D  KingdomofAlmar.esp6E  kingdomofAlamar_OOO.esp6F  GlenvarCastle.esp70  GlenvarCastle Vwalk.esp71  NNWAREAyleidDungeons_Series1EV.esp  [Version 2.2]72  NNWAEDungeons-Series2EV.esp73  NNWARE06-RhyeliaEmeroEV.esp74  PTArtifacts.esp75  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.2]76  The Ayleid Steps Vwalk.esp77  TheElderCouncil.esp78  TheForgottenShields.esp79  thievery.esp7A  thievery - EE patch.esp  [Version 1.0]7B  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp7C  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp7D  Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp7E  WOTFH_1.3.esp7F  Knights.esp80  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]81  Knights Vwalk UOP.esp++  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp82  RTT.esp83  RTT Vwalk.esp84  The Lost Spires.esp85  The Lost Spires Vwalk.esp86  Mighty Umbra.esp87  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.4]88  Blood&Mud.esp89  Blood&Mud Vwalk.esp8A  Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp  [Version 1.0]8B  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp8C  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 6.2]8D  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp8E  TheNecromancer.esp8F  MannimarcoRevisited.esp90  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]91  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_WelkyndSwordBlood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]92  FCOM_OMG.esp  [Version 0.9.9]93  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]94  Origin of the Mages Guild OOO Patch.esp  [Version 5.0.FINAL]95  Duke Patricks Sickness Alarm.esp96  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]97  Bag of Holding.esp  [Version 1.5.0]98  Bag of Alchemy.esp99  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp9A  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]9B  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.09]++  Short Grass V3.esp9C  Enhanced Vegetation [150%].esp9D  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]9E  RealisticForceMedium.esp9F  RealisticMagicForceLow.espA0  StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.espA1  StarX VVR_OOO Patch.espA2  MidasSpells.espA3  Midas OscuroGems.espA4  DirenniAlchemyApparatus.espA5  Multiple Enchantments.espA6  attack and hide medium v2.1.espA7  Deadlier Sneaking 1.1.espA8  Deadly Reflex Bow Sway.espA9  Deadly Reflex - Breathing Motion & Head Bobbing.espAA  Kobu's Character Advancement System.espAB  Grandmaster of Alchemy.espAC  Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]AD  CM Partners.espAE  CM Partners Vwalk.espAF  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]++  TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.espB0  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]B1  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]B2  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]B3  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]B4  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]B5  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993]B6  bgIntegrationEV - Alternative NPC Faces by LazyMonk.esp  [Version 0.99]++  bgIntegrationEV - Unique Clothes.esp  [Version 0.99]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.espB7  Better Cities - Full City Defences.espB8  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.espB9  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition Vwalk.espBA  Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.espBB  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.espBC  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.espBD  Better Imperial City.espBE  Better Imperial City Vwalk.espBF  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.espC0  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2]C1  TheOubliette.esp++  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]C2  bgMagicLightningbolt.espC3  Get Wet.espC4  BubbleFx.esp++  Real Lava 1.3.espC5  MassA.I-30.esp++  CoreRandmonClothing4Npcs.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]C6  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]C7  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espC8  Bashed Patch, 0.espC9  FormID Finder4.espCA  Streamline 3.1.esp

Can someone make an educated guess what is going on?
Thanks.

» Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:26 am

I think COBL edits that cell, so maybe a faulty COBL install or conflict between COBL and another mod.
But the easiest thing to do is to load up all upur mods (except those with Filter tags) in TES4EDIT and find out which mod(s) affect that cell. Then it's much easier to figure out what's wrong.
On your lis Ayleid Loot EXtension, Cobl Glue and OOO affects the cell (00027d5d) for certain.

EDIT: I'll be damned...with those three mods installed I too have the same problem...

» Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:49 am

It's possible this is caused by the error in version 2.1 of ALEX, it's already fixed and the fixed version was made available ealier today.

Apologies if this is the case.

Vac

» Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:51 am

Found the error. Version 2.1 of ALEX has been ESMified. ESPifiy it back using Wrye Bash solves the problem. Vac, is this the problem that you mentioned that has been fixed?

» Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:16 am

Found the error. Version 2.1 of ALEX has been ESMified. ESPifiy it back using Wrye Bash solves the problem. Vac, is this the problem that you mentioned that has been fixed?

Exactly. :brokencomputer:

Meh

Vac

» Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:27 pm

Huh. Right. Alex. Installed fixed version. Everything is back to normal.
Yeah, but I found my first spoon.

Now, for the rest of them.