Odd FPS Issue : IV

» Thu May 08, 2014 9:28 pm

Just when I got my game stable, I have been having an odd FPS issue, and I was hoping ?someone here might know why. I have a moderately heavily modded game, with QTP3-R, ?many other texture replacers, Better Cities, UL, Maskar’s Overhaul, about 150 esp files in total. ?Typically, I get about 20-30 FPS outdoors (even in the Waterfront) and about 40 or so indoors.?

Sometimes, however, when outdoors and combat ensues, after a few minutes of combat, ?the FPS will suddenly drop to maybe 10 -12. That doesn’t seem too unusual, since the machine ?is struggling with combat and the enemy AI and such, but here is the weird part.?

After the combat is over, the FPS stays at 10-12. If I travel to a different cell, the game ?recovers, but if I go back to the area where the combat occurs, the FPS will drop back to 10-12. ?If I travel to another area, let the FPS improve, save the game, reboot the computer, reload the ?save and then travel back to the area where the combat occurred, the FPS will still drop to 10-??12.?

It’s like that area permanently gets burned into the savegame file as a low FPS area. ?That seems really odd to me. Does anyone know why this happens??

So, far, my solution has been to reload a prior save before combat, drop the difficulty ?down to the lowest setting, end the combat quickly. If I do that, the FPS never drops in the first ?place, so the problem never occurs.?

I never have this issue in interior spaces, only exterior, so I can bump the difficulty ?slider to normal for interior combat. This solution of adjusting the difficulty for outdoor ?combat has been working, but I would really like to understand how an FPS drop for a ?particular area can get permanently saved into a savegame file.?

Anyone have any ideas??

My system specs are a Lenovo y400 laptop with a 2.4 ghz i-7 processor, 8 GB RAM, a GT 750M 2GB graphics card and Windows 8.1 (64 bit) with LAA.

My load order is below, although it has now changed slightly, and I no longer run Streamline or Salmo the Baker, but everything else is the same.

Active Mod Files:

Spoiler

00 Oblivion.esm01 TR_OoT_Main.esm02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34]03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]04 TamRes.esm05 Harvest[Containers].esm06 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.4.1]07 RealisticLeveling.esm** Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53]** Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53]08 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.5]09 UOPS Additional Changes.esp0A DLCShiveringIsles.esp0B Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.3]++ USIPS Additional Changes.esp0C Glowing Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones 14-28 Days.esp0D Better Cities .esp0E TamRes.esp0F All Natural.esp [Version 1.34]10 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.34]11 Idle Dialogue.esp [Version 1.3]++ Symphony of Violence.esp12 Distant Chapel Bells.esp13 Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1]14 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.34]15 AliveWaters.esp16 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp17 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp18 ImprovedSigns.esp19 Camping.esp1A Skyrim Ingredients.esp1B Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3]1C Streamline 3.1.esp1D Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1]1E Hotkey Pro.esp [Version 1.3]** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp1F Oddbasket Glass Replace ALT.esp20 Daedric Lord Armor.esp++ Daedric Lord-Classic Bound Armor.esp21 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]22 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]23 Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp24 Harvest[Containers].esp++ Respawning Clams2.esp25 Dwemer Ruins.esp26 Fighters Guild Quests.esp27 Mages Guild Quests.esp28 Skyrim Nord Tombs.esp29 TR_Stirk.esp2A Stirk_Compatibility_Patch.esp [Version 1.4]2B Daedric Shrine Ruins.esp2C Tamriel.esp2D ElsweyrAnequina.esp2E Unofficial Elsweyr Anequina Patch.esp2F ElsweyrCityExtension.esp30 Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp31 TWMP_Valenwood_Elsweyr.esp32 TWMP_Valenwood_Elsweyr - Daedric Shrine Ruins.esp33 ShezriesTownsMaster.esp34 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]35 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]36 xulTheHeath.esp37 xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1]38 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]39 Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp3A xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2]3B xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3]3C xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5]3D xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.5]3E Tales Elsweyr Anq Bravil Barrowfields Patch.esp3F xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.3]40 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4]41 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]42 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]43 Ravenview-Cloudtop-Patch.esp [Version 2.0]44 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4]45 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]46 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3]47 xulPantherRiver.esp48 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]49 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1]4A Brena River Ravine Daedric Shrine Ruins Patch.esp4B xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8]4C xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.1]4D xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]4E xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.3]4F Lakewood+AspenWood Patch.esp [Version 3.0]50 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2]51 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.5]52 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.1.3]53 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.4]54 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.2]55 xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.1.4]56 Eastern Peaks - Dwemer Ruins Patch.esp57 bartholm.esp58 bartholm - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]59 Fort Akatosh Redux.esp5A Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]5B Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]5C Better Dungeons.esp5D Compass-Disable_POIs.esp5E HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2]5F ExpandedGreetings.esp [Version 1.0]60 GuildAdvancement.esp61 SleepRestAnyTime.esp62 Leviathan Soulgems.esp63 Rowboats.esp64 SnusDungeons.esp65 SnusDungeons - BD patch.esp66 GalerionTrueUnarmored-v20.esp67 Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp [Version 5.4.3]68 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]69 Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 6.2.1]6A Basic Personal Hygiene.esp [Version 2.9]6B Basic Physical Activities.esp [Version 1.3]6C Magic Effects OBSE Tweaks.esp [Version 4.0]6D SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b]6E SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.90]6F SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_NoSpellLights.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90]70 MidasSpells.esp71 IThieveryRaise.esp72 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52]73 Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.4.1a]74 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.4.0]75 Better Cities - All Natural.esp76 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 1.3]77 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 1.3]78 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 1.4]79 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Panther River patch.esp [Version 1.4]7A Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 5.3.0]++ Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 5.4.1]7B Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 5.3.0]++ Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp [Version 5.3.0]7C Universitum Arcanorum.esp7D Guild Advancement-Universitum Arcanorum patch.esp++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.34]7E Bashed Patch, 0.esp7F Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp [Version 4.0]

» Thu May 08, 2014 6:27 pm

Look in your Prefs file and make sure these two lines look like this, unless your using a controller...

bGamePadRumble=0

bGamepadEnable=0

As to the combat, any mods that add to the combat, or increase spawns, etc? Those will kill your FPS. You could also try reducing the draw distance on actors and other scripty objects.

» Thu May 08, 2014 2:57 pm

I am not familiar with the "prefs" file. I am familiar with the .ini file. I looked in the .ini file and could not find any lines with bGamePadRumble or bGamePadEnable. Where is the "prefs" file?

» Thu May 08, 2014 9:35 pm

CCNA is confused with the Fallout games. Oblivion doesn't have a Pref file, only the ini.

» Thu May 08, 2014 7:51 pm

Well that explains why I couldn't find it. Oblivion doesn't seem to have a rumble setting in its ini. There is a bUse Joystick line, which I have set to "0". I do use a controller but with Xpadder, so I don't need Oblivion's native controller support, which isn't very good anyway.

Anyway, I don't think an overall improvement with FPS explains why the FPS won't recover to where it was before it dropped, even if I reboot the computer.