Perhaps Mexico or Canada? CHINA!!?!
Also, some where in middle America.
If it is in Australia, then there has to be some crazy mutated kangaroos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtwbMs_9WYk&feature=related

I want a Fallout game set in New York City, and I want that to be the theme song.

Yes, I know it's an overused setting, but I like it.

I expect Fallout 4 to feature the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and the Institute. Hopefully Fallout 5 or one of the DLCs for Fallout 4 will feature Toronto since I wish to see what has happened to the Canadians after we annexed 'em.

Also I doubt we'll ever see it, but I'd love to see what happened to Hawaii. A second Pearl Harbor? Was it left unscathed? If done right it could be a very interesting area. Perhaps even as the next spin-off game if Obsidian does well with New Vegas.

Toronto i've really liked to see Montreal, much more interresting, considering this is much more cultural, and the 50's Montreal was wonderfull. adding some modern era stuff (the Olympic Stadium, the Metro, The Amusemant Park) and stuff that is no longer here (Expo 67). we can get the most complete city of Canada's Fallout Universe.

I only mentioned Toronto because The Pitt DLC already established some lore about the city (although it's skeptical if it could be Toronto, Ontario, Canada, or Toronto, Ohio (since Ohio is directly next to Pennsylvania). I don't care if it's Toronto, Montreal, Quebec [city], Vancouver, or whatever city, I would just like to get more lore on Canada.

Not to say that it's not possible, but I don't think they'll be making a Fallout game outside of the US, because the 50's American lifestyle and setting play too much of a role in what defines Fallout as a series. 50's American propaganda and the whole fear of a nuclear holocaust in the US during the 50's are a huge part of what inspired Fallout in the first place.

Realistically, they're gonna want to pick a city that people will recognize in some way. That's obviously what they did with D.C., and even though they're using few recognizable buildings in New Vegas, when you look at the setting, it still screams "Vegas!". Recognizable settings work well, partly because it's easier to relate to, and also because it's more accessible in the marketing world. My personal bet is on New York, because it fits everything I said above, even though it seems a bit cliche. Not to mention with a major franchise like Fallout that covers cities like D.C., Vegas, and Los Angeles, you guys know that New York is basically an inevitable setting, whether it be in Fallout 4 or in Fallout 7.

Chicago also wouldn't be too unlikely. I know that it was previously featured in Fallout: Tactics, but my understanding is that Bethesda doesn't actually consider Fallout: Tactics canon. (Correct me if I'm mistaken about that).

I would say Los Angeles, but it was already featured in the original Fallout games by Interplay.

The Commonwealth is another legitimate possibility, even though it bores me personally.

Please do feel free to disagree. I certainly don't mind feedback, just try to refrain from verbally abusing me for my opinions.

That idea's not half bad! Perfect song choice! But actually, I checked it out, that song wasn't recorded until 1980, which means it technically couldn't exist in Fallout. It was still a good idea though.

The bombs fell on October 23rd, 2077. Fallout may be set in a 50s-like style, but that's because it's retrofuturistic. Socially speaking, it's the 50s, but technologically speaking it's the future. Something from the 80s could exist, it would simply need to fit into the 50s vibe.

I definitely understand what you're saying. My understanding is basically how Tim Cain explained it (I'm assuming you know who that is). Fallout is not set in the actual future, it's set in the future that people in the 50's imagined. It's technically an alternate universe. The alternate time line splits off from ours sometime in the late 50's, maybe early 60's (not to say you didn't already know that). My personal interpretation of this would mean that unless people in the 50's would have imagined this song, it couldn't exist. I guess it just depends on how you look at it. If post-50's things could exist in Fallout, then why would people still be watching black & white TV? Why would all of the music in any of the games (excluding Fallout Tactics or BOS) be from the 50's or before the 50's, but never after the 50's? Why would there be no mention of any of the real-life Post 50's wars? There aren't any of the same events after the 50's, so how could a song written after the 50's exist?

Wow, I start typing. and before I know it I have a huge paragraph... sorry for typing so much, but thanks for reading if you did!

Also, please keep in mind I don't mean to say that my view is any better than yours. I'm simply explaining my own personal understanding of the franchise, and I don't mean to put yours down.


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It's Sinatra, just like New Vegas' theme song, and it sound like a 50s song. Sinatra didn't even have his own version of Blue Moon(New Vegas' theme) until the early 60s, anyway. Regardless of time, it's Sinatra. :shrug:

I would say the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

Oklahoma City Metro would be cool (for me), but I'm a little biased.

Yeah that's true.

The way I look at it, we know that the time line splits around the late 50's-early 60's, but we don't know when exactly. Blue Moon came out in the early 60's, so considering that's right around when the Fallout timeline splits, I think it works. I guess what it all comes down to is just however you wanna look at it.

But yeah, I mean Sinatra is Sinatra. As a person he's already confirmed in Fallout. So even though the release timing of "New York, New York" by Sinatra doesn't make a ton of sense for Fallout, I don't see why it absolutely wouldn't work. I just wouldn't really expect them to pick a post-50's song. But I don't know. I guess it just depends on whatever the developers are feeling.

A.The moon, humans colonized the moon and gave it a dense atmosphere, but Russia, the U.S, China, North Korea, Japan, Germany, and N.Korea were at a war, eventually N.Korea's bomb testing facility blew up, here we had plasma bombs, atomic bombs, and dark matter bombs blow up.

B: A huge Antartic colony...I just want to see cute little...um mutant pengiuns.

C: Japan

D: Moscow

E:Hong Kong

F: Egypt... futuristic style though ( all should be futeristic-ish)

G: New York City

H: Venice...I played to much AC2

p.s. I know some of these idea's were stated, I just wanted to list my most prefered.

what i have always wanted from morrowind/oblivion/fallout 3 and that i would love to see in what ever bathesda come up with next is being able to truly affect your social environment.

such as: if we blow up megaton then it should be on the news radio and some people(vigilantes) will come looking for me and the trading caravans will completely change their routes and places like the republic of dave will become even more paranoid of strangers.

or you kill alot of raiders/super mutants results in the waste lands becomming a saver place for ppl to live and trade and travel resulting in more ppl moving in and economy/traders inventory becomming better.

or giving water to ppl who are dying of thirst or free captives will later in the game come and spread positive rumors about you..

i know these arnt the best of examples but i am in a hurry. i have always desired sandbox games to be an environment that you can change for the better or for worse depending on what you want. i know this makes making the game alot harder but if someone can do it bathesda can.

also i really like the guild system in oblivion and morrowind and would love to see something similar in future games only when you finally do become guild master make the reward better then just a title perhaps you could use your guild to do quests for you with a cool down.

That would be awesome! I would like Boston personally. If I had to pick just one city. Lots of history, awesome architecture.

How about a Fallout: Waterworld, which is similar to that movie Waterworld where you live in settlements on the Pacific Ocean above the sunken ruins if a city like Los Angeles. There are sea monsters and mini-submarines you can use to explore the ruins.

Choice of vehicle would be something like the Sleeping Beauty canoe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Beauty_(canoe)

Or maybe being able to explore some functioning underwater cities like BioShock.

That song could work. I can actually imagine the dissonance as you kill Raider's in Midtown. If they ever do a Fallout in New York, they must show all five boroughs.

I personally would not mind either.

A. New York City, New York
B. Memphis, Tennessee

or

C. Anchorage Alaska, with lots of left over tech and fortifications of the Anchorage Reclemation.

I want to see the Commonwealth. F3 just made me wnat to go there so bad.

LA isn't sunken - Its the "Boneyard" to locals and state in the NCR - Join us today!

Portland oregon, Its a decent size, but its dived up into like 8 parts, north portland, NE portland, east portalnd, SE, portland, South portland(witch is like west linn area), and so on. It has a good amount of skyscraqers, and because people were smuggled into portland odwn the columbia in the early 1900s you could use all the underground passes.

I hope you do know in Fallout Universe the World Trade Center was never built? Ihope they keep it within a design aesthetic which the buildings are art deco and googie architecture. Yes then I'm sure even if it's set way in the future like Fallout is, including the Divergence, the game developers and publishers will be lambasted portraying New York City in ruins. EVEN THOUGH they'd make pitiful comparisons about OH NO 9/11! crap, I certainly take it the devs and publishers will tell the interviewers to read the pamphlet they got and tell them to their face since it IS a Divergent reality, 9/11 never even happened. Same for the Vietnam War. Oh right, going by that logic, Three Mile Island and Chernobyl never happened either.
Long story short, media alot of the time don't do their research when it comes to certain things.
I honestly don't really care where the next Bethesda or Obsidian Fallout game takes place. If both keep it with the Divergent Reality and the 50's retro-futuristic feel, that's fine with me.
I dunno if alot of them know about the Resource War and the Great War? Oh well, who knows?
So from my understanding, the Fallout video game series is fairly much always a North American setting. I still keep wondering about England, Scotland, Ireland, France and the rest of Europe. Maybe they'd have different companies or something? Yeah I know I can't ask anymore due to "legal" nonsense.

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When did rmctagg09 make any references to the World Trade Center? From what I read (which is the same exact quote, and I read his signature too to see if that's what you're referring to), he didn't make any references to the WTC, just that he wants all five boroughs, or districts to be in the game if they make a Fallout: NYC.

The five boroughs are Queens, Manhattan, Bronx, Brooklyn, and Staten Island. They don't have anything to do with the WTC.

I'm just being anol retentive if it's set in NYC, people better know about the setting and Divergence. NYC has been almost done to death in video games. Why not other cities? I was going to mention something else but can't actually due to the legal bullcrappery.
Perhaps next Fallout game in the numbered series stays on East Coast and named subtitle would remain West Coast or something?
Off topic since this would fall under subtitle and Obsidian. Maybe the next subtitled FALLOUT game could be Resource War? J.E. Sawyer mentioned he'd love to make this. Could be even set-up as a Ghosr Recon: Advance Warfighter type combat/style. But an actual Fallout game set before the Great War? No idea for anyone else, if developed and executed correctly, I'd buy it.

God I hope not. Straight millitary shooters, human versus human, yawn.! Droids are never enough, there won't be Mutants at that point, hardly any Ghouls, if any, no Deathclaws etc etc it wouldn't be Fallout really would it?

It'll be New York