That town filled with women and children that they massacred begs to differ.... :cryvaultboy:

Proof that they did this? Proof that they weren't contracted to do it?

I still really like the idea of the Four corners area.
Not only are there cities spread out across vast amounts of desert and mountains, there area lot of native american ruins that survivors could gravitate towards as possible shelter,.

I'd rather not see the Brotherhood or the Enclave in New York... I really like the subways being shortcuts idea and Ghoultown.

A Cathedral would be pretty cool, maybe Fawkes or Uncle Leo headed north and were worshipped as a god by some wastelanders...

I think the Vault near the Statue of Liberty would be a great idea with a few adjustments, maybe they're very paranoid and are preparing for war with the 'savages' (other wastelanders who did not originate from Vaults) or something.

I also like the zoo and the Emprei State Building idea would be cool if there are some revolutionaries trying to take it over that you could help.



I also like the Talon Company HQ idea.

Do you think there should be any rivals of them?

I dont get why so many people want talon company to be such an integral part of F4.. Am i missing something that makes amn unscrupulous merc company so great?

There would be rivals, and much, much more. How about some home made copy pasta from several of my own posts

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Prinsenvlag.svg (pre-war New York)



In short New New Amsterdam is a city perverted by greed, a place where anything can be bought and sold, a city of sin.

Now if somebody can tell me if there's anything worth fighting over in or around New York State. Maybe some interesting facility or factory that would make sense.

For the love of Atom, if any of you devs are reading this rthread for idead, don't make Talon Company anything more than a regular faction in F4, if at all.

I am sure that some great takeover of the wastes could be implemented on their behalf.. but their motivation is "guns for hire".. theres no master plan there.

i would reather see a NEW faction take center stage than re-purposing Talon Company.

New New Amsterdam, reestablished by one grumpy Dutchman.

Post-apocalyptic New York, y'all just wanna nuke it again don't ya? Come on, ya know ya wanna, you really do, SEARCH YOUR FEELINGS (Jefafa?). Anyway, I'd like to see it as perverse as possible, focused entirely on trade and money. New Vegas is nothing compared to NNA. I wanna feel the caps flow through my fingers, I wanna swim in caps, feel them all around me.

gold gold gold!!! caps caps caps!!!

Mako Vlazkov would feel differenlty.

I don't want Talon Company to be a main faction but a major faction. Have them being the most feared mercenaries in the Big Apple is great but having them being the main focus? No... I don't really think any faction should be the main focus. I think it should be divided up somewhat equally, that was one of my main problems with F3 and NV... Lyon's BoS and the NCR weren't greatly thought out and were by far the main focus of the entire game. And there could be pretty cool missions involving Talon Company, having to find out who killed one of thier hitmen after he killed the leader of a major raider group, that'd be great.

I also want new factions too but lets get back on topic, location.

I say New York or Chicago/ Detroit in the next game.

Want a new faction hay ?_?
go to page 2 fifth post then after reading click this link and read the very first post on the thread.
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1166122-faction-ideas/

I cannot speak for others, but my reasoning is quite sound: I would like Talon Company to be in Fallout 4, but not like they were in Fallout 3, I want it to be like the factions of New Vegas, with interaction and reputation. My logic is that, in a post-nuclear world like Fallout, an entity like the Talon Company would flourish into tremendous presence, even more so in areas where no large factions had developed to create order. I mean, the Talon Company is a perfect example of the perfect post-apocolyptic business model, a moderatly sized, well-equiped paramilitary force that would be deployed at the word and monetary expense of wealthy people or groups to vy for power. I dont understand how there are no other factions like them, the Talon Company should be in Fallout 4, it fits well in the setting and, frankly, the poor usage of a faction with such potential in Fallout 3 left a bad taste in my mouth, and, seeing how very well Obsidian did with factions in Fallout: New Vegas, really fleshing them out with backgrounds and interactions, I have no doubt that, if Bethesda takes some pointers from New Vegas's handling of factions, they could be a great faction in Fallout 4.


Excluding the "if at all" I agree on all counts.


? I am not some "adoring fan" that thinks that they are super duper, i like them because they make sense, i fully understand the limitations of their power.

I dont think Talon Company should be a major faction, they are not strong enough to compete against the larger factions, but strong enough to assert their power in a region, they're a tool for warmaking and bloodletting, and this tool can be used for good or evil, but the end result is the mercs get paid and [censored] gets done.

Has any one else wondered why no one else but enclave and Brother hood have there own power armor. Brother hoods is a old model from prewar and enclaves is a more advanced model. But why does no one else have some. I mean Some one has to of found out how to make it. Just imagine. What If the top 3 talon company leaders made there own and it looked nothing like Brother hood or enclave. It would be a nice change. (seeing the reapers modified version of the Enclave Power armor in game would be nice).

Because Power Armor is near impossible to make with current technology, the BoS doesn't make Power Armor, they fix old suits. Shi make power armor, but they are in San Fran, Enclave make power armor, but they are dead.

no I dont mean to mas produce it liek the enclave or BoS
I mean just to make liek maybe 3 or just 1
you know for the big dogs, the kings, the hostes with the mostes.
You know what Im saying right ?_?.

And the reapers power armor is a remade version of enclave. So not mas produced more of borrowed and re made.

NCR's non-powered power armor units are close, Ashur's armor, too. if you look at my post on the suggestion thread, you can see my idea for Talon Company Shocktroopers.

I'm all for Fallout 4 being set in New York, I would actually like the map to be the entire city I think that would be cool. I'm kind of getting sick of seeing stupid towns like Megaton and the republic of Dave or whatever. Plus, I don't see why everyone is against the Talon company I thought they were fun, a bunch of mercs running around is never a bad thing. I'd like to see them more neutral this time and not just go after me cos I'm a good two shoes. The brotherhood of steel can [censored] right off though!

To be honest, having the entire game take place in some stupid city would ruin it. Where would they farm? What factions would be in it? What would be the location of the final battle and why there, how would any faction benefit by controlling that location?

Reilly talks about what they did man.

That doesn't proof jack, not to Talon Company anyway, I mean Riley would lie about that to drum up business... right?

Yeah, they are competing businesses.

See this is why I want one in the south
people want new york just because of the city no other reason. They don't even think story wise they just think "Ohh big city = great game" when in reality a big city Like new york. Its to big for a actually good game. DC is small and that's why it made such a good map. Did the miss parts of the city. yes actualy lots. Like there zoo (why did you forget the best place to find a 2 headed lion) and a few parks. But the thing is those areas were out lined with heavy metal so its ok (meaning we couldn't reach them but we past there zoo 9 times and all it was was a Subway)

More post-war american countryside and rural areas? Farms and small towns and plains and not just burnt-out trees and dirt ground. Sure, it could be drier/hotter than pre-war, but not burnt-out. Healthy trees, although maybe not with huge green leaves all over, and alot of grass, although a little dry like it is in the hot summer when it hasn't rained for weeks.

Edit: something like http://www.totalfreewallpaper.co.cc/category/landscape/wallpapers/landscape-7/Wasteland_by_lowapproach.jpg. Not flourishing, but not dead.

Fork yes

I have talked to her, before I killed her, not sure what you are talking about, even if you are right about them doing that, how do you know they werent contracted to do it?