It is nothing like that for me. Some want it because it could be a great war ground for the Pitt (if or when they become a superpower), the Commonwealth (if they are a country, which I greatly believe), Ronto (we don't know anything about them), and the possible future country of D.C. I'm admittedly a little byiast because I'm from there and would love to see my suburb in a Fallout game, but still. I don't want it to be the entire map, I'd like to see Kingston and Long Island as well but it should be in a game.

The problems I have with the south is
1) the accents, I used to live there and had to constantly talk to people from the north to keep myself from talking in an accent too.
2) how there is just nothing but trees in large amounts of space, that wouldn't be very good following a nuclear apocalypse
3) rednecks, everybody were I worked and lived was a redneck and they always annoyed me, that's why I had to move
4) the general slowness of the South, things that take me ten minutes took the people I worked with twenty just because they were so layed back and calm... I was getting road rage at cash registers!

It would either have to be unrealistic or dull. I don't want to further be in the discussion of the South in a Fallout game.

1) Adds diversity.
2) Who would nuke "nothing but trees", plus they make good resources for building, i could see a lot of civilization in those "empty" spaces.
3) :stare: I do so object to this negative inflection upon the honorable redneck, unless you were yourself being a stereotype Yankee, linking rednecks to "white trash" and not the people who work all day in the sun until their necks are permanently sunburned, which is what rednecks are.
4) Calm is what you have to be when people look to you. And it's all you can be when things are out of your hands. The Southern mindset bodes well in a post-nuclear world.

Sure there would be less crazy people running around, and I'm not being stereotypical, I actually made some friends there but I wouldn't want to play an entire game of people of that serine mindset. There were actually some customers who I worked with who refused to speak with me because I was 'a damn Yankee.' The South has nice scenary and more kind people then the North but I find it too slow. I like cities, the whole 'everything around you constantly moving thing' is very... calming, oddly enough.

The South has a good reason to hate the North, because they acted like tyrants, and then invaded them, sound familiar, the South was actually growing a large political anti-slavery movement, only the plantations owners supported slavery, the reason the North invaded wasn't "to free the slaves", it was an act of oppression, alike to the British in the American Revolution, the South grew tired of the North dictating them, so they decided to secede to assure their rights, and what did the North do? Invade, invade them because they acted up. Damn Yankees. YA GOT ME ALL RILED UP :cryvaultboy:

you sir deserve a reward for doin my job on these forums
protected the souths honor.
The south deserves to hate the north for many reasons. one because in the civil war the north only won because of 2 things. that fleet that blocked are ports before the war and there numbers. I mean every battle the north lost 5 times more soldiers then the south. the south were trained with guns sence they were born because they knew protecting there family was how to do things. If the north didn't have so many people then they would of lost hands down. and don't say its not true. Infact we made it to DC but had to leave because the north had the ability to just replace there soldiers while the south had to use there people wisely. Heck we made the first iron ship. It actually destroyed the north's version but because of previous heavy damage it sunk. We used one boat to destroy 50. We had the power and could of won if numbers had been equal.

Now adays
We controll all trade in the U.S. A Train or plane Has to come threw here to make it any were
we control the mager military force.
We are actually making more money then the north right now
We make the U.S. now adays if another civil war broke out the north would die. And i sadly say I hope it does so every GOD D** YANKY CAN FINALLY ADMIT THE TRUTH THERE NOTHING BUT WEAK SCUM WHO RELY ON ANOTHER DEATH JUST TO GET AHEAD IN LIFE

sorry about that Im very protective over my home.
And Scotland

In the old series Firefly, Independance and Alliance are based on the southern army and the northern army in the civil war respectively. And who are the evil [censored]s? The Alliance.

Sorry, I shouldn't meddle in your quarrels, I'm just a swede. We've got our own with Scania (southern Sweden) wanting either to belong to Denmark or to be independant (one small country, living only on potatoes and wind power, HAH!)

And don't get me started on the United Kingdom...

I'm fine with anything as long as its not New York (which'd be like getting the worst parts of Fallout 3 and making an entire game around them), or another country.

Although I am partial to Alaska (A good change of scenery), or Arizona (More of the Legion).

I thought NV was the worst parts of Fallout 3 made into a game? Just kidding, why would New York be so bad?

It wouldn't have to be just the city, maybe a part of a train could lead you to Kingston or Long Island (although a train to Long Island wouldn't be necessary).

And if some people's ideas of the Chinese using power and little radiation bombs in the West and radiation and little power bombs in the East then NYC wouldn't be that destroyed.

I have a million ideas of what to post against the whole South vs. North thing but I'm just going to ignore it after this post to prevent flaming.

We aren't damn Yankees. We are just Yankees.

I want to see WEST BOS get to grapple with the Midwestern BOS in chicago. Also WHY DID EVERYONE FORGET THE INSTITUTE??? Thats a gold mine right there, what the hell are they doing over there besides realistic cybernetic lifeforms? Are they friend or foe? Or none???

Also i heard that Mister Sawyer was thinking of doing one here in europe from the view of a british soldier during the resource wars in the middle east that would be interesting since they can deliver a militaristic game with Operation anchorage and still retain the RPG and sandbox as they used in FO3 and NV.

You're from DC? You have my condolences for Beth makin' y'all live in radioactive mudholes for 200 years.

Now how to proceed without turning it into South vs North



Folk have accents everywhere, Yankees make talk sound like tolk, and better like bedder and IMO, Fallout would be better if they included them accents local to the area. Just make sure y'all get 'em right.



I think it would, some farms, trees, cotton I'm all for seeing humanity rebuilding in Fallout games



Hogwash, but some Redneck elements could be used in a Southern game.



I don't see how that would be a factor in the game. Besides, what's the hurry anyway?

Anyway, what NY locations would be worth fighting over? On the other hand, the only Southern location I could come up with are the Wattz Bar factories/R&D in Tennessee.

No I'm not from D.C., New York actually. I've been there a couple of times and it was pretty cool to recognize places in F3...

That's pretty difficult, especially considering the Civil War. But not impossible.

Again pretty biased on that because I grew up with my dad talking like that.


True but the World Trade Center, the Chrystler Building, Emprei State Building, and the Statue of Liberty could all be important places.

I could imagine multiple factions wanting it simply because it could give them an easy route to other factions, which could also present a problem. The entire state could be rich with supplies for the Nuclear Apocalypse.

Well most of it would be just the city, which IMO was the weakest part of FO3's map. It only took up about a quarter of the of the map, and I dreaded going there. I just found traversing through the rubble so tedious. The wasteland was just so much better.

And its not just the fact that most of it would be city. A game set in NY would certainly involve subway tunnels, which were without a doubt the worst part of FO3.

I found the subway tunnels to be great in moderation. If you went through all of them non-stop then they got terrible.

What uoi stated was your opinion, maybe others felt the same way, I don't know.

Besides Bethesda has a brand new game engine that will, almost without a doubt, be able to handle far more so the maps can be alot bigger. It could take up all of New York City (Some burrows might've been completely destroyed by the bombs) and then a lot more.

It'd be a big part of the game but not the entire game.

Map nodes could take up the entirety of New England :whistling:

why does no one here do research on the south besides me
Atlanta Georgia
The united stated largest railroad bay.Controls an entire 60% of all train trade in the United states.
Heart-field Jackson Airport. One of the worlds largest and most busiest airports and controls 90% of all trade in the United states for out side trade and inside.
Has the most money in the south
Controls most army afairs of the south (and being that the south provides the most soldiers. most air force bases. and has many weapon testing sites compared to anything in the north not to mention its where 90% of all space craft are launched its a pretty big deal)

Florada.
Controls Alligators
Controls many food farms
controls 40% of the Space craft launches
Controls A large amount of sea trade

Mississippi
Controls many new weapons testing sites
controls Fresh water trade in US
Has very good fire works

if any of those arnt worth trying to protect then I don't know what is.

In my case, it's just because I'm currently doing research on Watts Bar and the area around it, see what I can do with it. I love the Wattz lasers and I want them back. Maybe I'll look into Mississippi because of the weapon testing, but I also consider looking into South Carolina.

Furthermore, I'm looking into creatures, especially creatures related to the South. I think hogs would be interesting, both unmutated domesticated pigs and mutated wild hogs (not sure how, maybe with steel razor sharp tusks?).

I also consider
Tarantula
Black Widow
Alligator (possibly a mutated sewer alligator, 'cause it's a funny myth, maybe with iron scales)
Komodo Dragon
Bombardier beetle (spits explosives or something)
Fire beetle (spits fire)

What about catfish mirelurks
they most tasty fish in the south

After the bombs fell and the FEV was released, a number of cats ate highly affected fish. This caused them to fuse together. This creature in turn was eaten by mirelurks causing them to be fused with the creature now called the catfish mirelurk. This creature has the legs, head and agility of a cat, the gills and fins of a fish and the hardened shell of mirelurks. They live deep under water, safely out of reach from the Kentuckians who'll fry anything that starts with a C. The diet of this creature is the invading northern codfish which it eats for breakfast.

Rumor has it that deep underneath the waters of Georgia a legendary catfish mirelurk lives. It is rumored that when a northerner insults southern honor, this catfish mirelurk comes after them, and eat them overnight. This however has not been confirmed, but it should be noted that Yankees have disappeared overnight, usually within weeks after insulting southern honor.

The South is my preference. It would be realistic (Miami and Atlanta would have been nuked). There's lots of resources to fight over (old abandoned farms, hotels, space shuttles launches.), and it would be cool to not have to go around mountains

In Fallout 3 you could scale mountains to a degree, no invisible barriers.


Edit: And people posting about Yankkes and Southern Honor please knock it off, it's getting annoying.

Mountains? What? The only mountains i saw in Fallout 3 were the ones i could not climb do to invisible walls, or worse, no invisible walls and i ended up getting stuck inbetween two rocks or fall under the map.


How is it a problem?

That never happened to me.

It's as stated annoying.

I brought this up a couple of times but a Fallout game in Washington and Oregon would be cool.

you can't say were only fighting over it . Were also discussing how the game would be if it was in the south
A good Plan for some factions are in the faction idea thread
But one thing I was thinking of was the enclave. They have always relied a a plan A and never made a Plan B. Thats why they kept falling. This time there in the south. The last of the enclave but the strongest of it. Long ago they left the Oil rig to find a way to communicate with there out of country units. These units were secretly Sent as a way to protect any government officials who did not wish to stay on the oil rig. Many were sent out and now they must be called back home. as the enclave are on the break point a small party was sent of 50. They have managed to make it to the south but after a large battle with the BoS 20 of there people died. They have 2 plans. A. reset a shuttle so they can send some people into space and fix a satellite to send a message to the enclave around the world. recall the troops and take back Washington. Then use Hearts field to send its reaming planes to collect them and bring them back. B. Send a Sub To Hawaii to find a enclave message that was sent from there just a year ago.

Plan B is set and ready and the First part of Plan A is set. They just need help
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Alaska or something in the great lakes area because Canada was annexed by the U.S