To elaborate on two points made above, "setting" can refer to a time and situation as much as a place. This thread should also be used for any such discussion for any potential Fallout titles, not just Fallout 4.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1108234-official-fallout-4-location-suggestions/
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1136124-official-fallout-4-location-suggestions-2/
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1155916-official-fallout-4-location-suggestions-3/
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1166206-official-future-fallout-locations-suggestion-topic-4/
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1175896-official-future-fallout-locations-suggestion-topic-5/
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1183795-official-future-fallout-locations-suggestion-topic-6/
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1205579-official-future-fallout-locations-suggestions-topic-7/
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1216183-official-future-fallout-locations-suggestions-topic-8/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1255186-official-future-fallout-locations-suggestions-topic-9/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1333580-official-future-fallout-locations-suggestions-topic-10/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1342037-official-future-fallout-locations-suggestions-topic-11/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1349600-official-future-fallout-locations-suggestions-topic-12/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1355367-official-future-fallout-locations-suggestions-topic-13/

next game′s have to be on a bigger map so instead off mack the game on a city i think we have to aim in size of a state, so where can fallout 4, 5, 6, 7,.... be:

• one of the 50 USA states.
  
• one of the Canadian states
  
• Mexico
  
• an island grope in pacific
  
• an island grope in Caribbean
  
• chines east cost
  
• England, so you who don't lick subtitles can play, but star-wars works fine whit subtitle's so why not fallout!
  
• e/w Germany, Berlin
  
• Moskva/Leningrad/Stalingrad triangle area
  
• Scandinavia

• Fallout 4 New England

• Fallout 5 Alaska, DLC Canada
  
• Fallout 6 Hawaii, DLC Pacific
  
• Fallout 7 Shanghai, DLC Japan
  
• Fallout 8 Moscow/Stalingrad/Leningrad
  
• Fallout 9 Germany
  
• Fallout 10 GB
  
• Fallout 11 Scandinavia

New England whit all those old buildings and stuffs!

And then build more about he Cthulhu lore and have a visit to Miskatonic University in Arkham and other similar places, the lore already exist in the game!

yeee new England, the rest is just a fragment of modern history,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=052YPfZv_Mw

A few things; Fallout isn't leaving America (anytime soon).

Second thing, you want Fallout to get to number 11? The 4th (5th, really) hasn't even come out yet bro.

You disgust me!

why are the DLC locations bigger than the original locations?

also...is this guy trolling or what? all of his posts as nonsensical

You do realize that this "history" you want to see probably won't be there, cause you know, there was a nuclear war and stuff.

Also fun fact the Chesapeake area is older than new england.

Another one: the middle colonies were settled by the Dutch and Swedes before New England was even founded. Only Virginia is older.

DLC in that general area or several of em!

nonsensical? don't think so...


and yes son or later fallout will leaving America !!!

But its not me that keep [censored]ing about the so cal (non existing) rich USA history, what i say if you need history you have to go to the main land if any of it still exist! but if the thing have standing there for 500 + year then its a bigger chance its still standing there in the fallout world!

And yes some trade-station and stuffs existed in the coastal areas but the N- american history belongs to the native american Indian's, not USA!

Yes Columbus cam on the 7-11 spot to find America, depends on hove to count.

While I'm not really a 'fan' of games being set America, or even interested in America at all for that matter, I can't say that I'd want to see future games in the Fallout series take place anywhere else. It would be like a Mad Max film set outside Australia, or an Assassin's Creed game outside Europe... wait, bad example..... But anyway, it just wouldn't feel right with the rest of the series. The country it's set in isn't what makes the Fallout series great, but it would change the feel of it way too much if it moved now.
Like anyone, I'd love to see a post-apocalyptic game like Fallout set in my country; Australia, or the United Kingdom, but I certainly wouldn't want to see Fallout being completely reinvented outside the post-apocalyptic America it has already built up through the series so far.


Anyway... I don't care where the next game is set as long as it has a huge urban area with a proper city this time. Not three streets with a dozen ruined buildings, calling it a 'city'. A big city to explore would be awesome to see after the boring desert of the Mojave.

I just want Another fallout. It doesnt have to be really set anywhere in particular. I just want more.

Have you finished the other Fallouts first?

Chicago or Colorado

Fallout wouldn't be Fallout if it was in a different country. One of the best features of all fallout games was the 1950's American culture! There are 2 probably locations for the next fallout game, 1st New York city imo if Bethesda makes the next fallout game they will continue with the lyons BoS in a location near DC, 2nd Chicago as hinted in New Vegas.

I'm not sure on this but wasn't China whipped clear off the map which i think was stated in the Fallout Bible.

I'm going on a limb to suggest San Diego.
(Before or After NCR)

Just do what I do, play other games as "extensions" to your current character or what have you. For example, I played saw the game and metro 2033 as "expansions" with the help of a little imagination. I used metro 2033 as the possibility of fallout 3 dlc mothership zeta interferring with another ship that crashes into russia and therefore you have to help the Russians since it was your fault. Saw the game was some psycho trying to make you feel responsible for lots of people's death or what have you.

The Pacific Northwest (Washingston,Oregon, Idaho). It'd be nice if the Great Khan ending that involves them going to the Northwest and "carving out a mighty empire" would be made canon. We need to see more of the Great Khans for FO4, their such an interesting faction.

i would hate it if fallout would be on a island.... theres already soo many games with dumb islands that it would get boring..... i hope they keep the american aspect in the fallout game.... and btw, im canadian, so its got nothing to do with ¨KEEP IT AMERICAN¨...

personnaly, id love to see the game in like new york or texaS because to make a nuclear wasteland in and around new york would be a huge challenge for the gfx team =P.. oh and one last thing, please keep the underground vaults, thats a classic and there shoulda been more in fallout new vegas =P

Flagstaff is my first choice.

My close second is Detroit/Windsor.

Vajan, I told you this once, and I don't want to have to tell you again. You know nothing of American history, you're completely ignorant of it. Nobody even commented to you in the first place about American history, the comments were directed at me, and another person, not you. You had nothing to do with it. You brought your self into the discussion, and again made yourself look like a fool. So again, and for the last time, stop commenting on American history, because you only dig yourself deeper into the hole of ignorance. I told you nobody else on here is claiming to know history of your country, so don't try and claim to know mine.

There are plenty of events in American history I could name off for you, that would show how ignorant you are to American history and that changed the face of how the world saw things, and looked at the US itself. Events that weren't insignificant like you'd claim, but I'm not because you're not worth the time to.

hehe OK i have study American history in university level so i know ......

I doubt it will leave America, if it does, the furthest it should go really is Canada. The whole 50's retro vibe would be destroyed in any other country, and a lot of the Fallout story would just feel un-done in any other country, keep it in the states. I would love to see New York, San Francisco, Chicago, a city basically, vast urban landscapes, something bigger than ever before, somewhere more developed, nowhere near normal, just not as bad. It would be easy to get a great, post-apocalyptic, claustrophobic vibe from San Francisco or New York. Don't do another desert, too many times now, don't do a place we've already got, don't do somewhere that hasn't felt the full force of the bomb. That's all I'll say for this. New York, or a form of Travel to another big city. Two big cities would be great, only gaining access to the second half way through, something like that.

No you don't know, Vajan. If you did, you'd know that modern American history is more than just the American Revolution. You also wouldn't make simple remarks of, "Oh, I studied American history at University, I know what I'm talking about." Like that's really going to prove to me Vajan, you do. You've proved to me time and time again, you don't so something as simple and weak as that, isn't going to make me turn around and say otherwise.

American history is rich, Vajan, how about looking at the Lewis and Clark Expedition? That changed a lot in how people viewed the continent and such, and brought old indian nations not known about by many, into the light for a lot of people. How about the buying of all the land that's now considered apart of the US (Louisiana Purchase; Gadsden Purchase; etc.) , from powerful (yet greedy) European nations? How about the War of 1812, where again a small nation like the US at the time, beat a powerful nation like Britain a second time? Mexican-American War? American Civil War showed the world that the US was no longer going to be a slave nation, and was indeed changing itself. And also nearly dragged Britain into the conflict. The work on the Transcontinental railroad was simply a modern marvel when it was completed. Nothing had ever been done like it before in the world.

How about the US's dabble in Imperialism, a specialty of several well known European nations. You're going to tell me that the Spanish-American War/Philippine-American War, were insignificant in how the world viewed the US? The Spanish-American War, was a major defeats of a powerful European nation another time, and showed that the US was rising in power/stength when it kicked out the Spanish from Cuba and the Philippines. The Philippine-American War showed the world, that the US was able to fight and hold imperialist holdings, just like Britain or any other European nation. And that war could even be felt into WW2, with the US having military installations on the islands.

Let's skip ahead to after WW2, since I don't think I need to explain that. After WW2, who was it that was the other main super power going up against the USSR? The US. A huge deal that involved the modern world and how it operated. The Korean War still reverberates it's events to this day, seeing as the country's still split in half, and the war isn't even really over. I don't think I need to explain Vietnam to you either, and how that was another American influential action on the world. So was the matter of the Cuba Missile Crisis. Everyone was on edge, no matter where you were in the world, when that happened. How about our influential moves in the Middle East when Iran and Iraq went to war, or Iran held those US hostages in Terran? And Afghanistan, when the Soviet Union was invading them? Can't tell me the repercussions of those events, aren't still felt today either.

The more recent events like the First Gulf War and others, I don't need to explain either, hopefully, but if you can't see them as influential moves and matters, to the world, then you truly are ignorant of American history, Vajan.

Well if i couldsay one thing, it would be; learn from mass effect, dragon age, rage, and baldurs gate..

What i mean is, dont just build the map and throw every uber super awesome things in it, try to lead the player in story wise, it doesnt always work like "omg non-liner, i can even do x and y, uber cool"..! we need to see some, romance, drama, story, excitment.. Discpovery.. OK i just found the word, "develop".

I mean look at the damn skyrim, 50 hours in game and havent even went to the greybeards yet O.O Yet the all freaking game works like, i discover a new city, talk to people, get quests, do the ones which near to me, do the ones that far but not that far to me, than move on to next location-city or major quest..

But in other games, even "more open map" one like baldurs gate, there was a story telling, a way of the story fits in, we advance trough map AS we build or character, our background, our STORY..

But in skyrim lol, i really wonder whose idea was to design quests as seperate as posible as.. in the first 10 hour of the game and i already had a quest at the northest of the map, westest of the map, and after 5 hour eastest of the map.. WTF O.O

So yeah, long story short, from an elder scroll game, all i expect is close to skyrim, good universe, magic, more magic, good magic system, creative quests, couple funny detail, massive world and here you go..

But when comes to fallout, boy now that must be, not "epic", but it must be the hearthbreaker..

No it won't.

This.
Oh and we can't forget World War 1, it was the first time in history an indepedant nation on another continent across an ocean (the US) cared about what was going on (Europe) and affected the entire world's view on cause and effect. Everything began to affect everything else after that.

Back On Topic-
My list:
1) The Mid West (Chicago as the focus)

2) The Northwest (Portland and what's left of Seattle as the focuses)

3) The Gulf Area (namely New Orleans, we could learn about a few possible nations that are trying to expand into there)

4) The Northeast (either Philly or a city in New York that is NOT New York City)

5) New England (perhaps there could be an unfair monarch or dictatorship ruling it and a revolution is starting in somewhere like New Boston (could've been built on the ruins of Boston or near it) or something along those lines)

Dear oh dear, having just read an amusing thread about Europe... (which was luckily closed)(don't worry I wont restart it again)..
There are a few misconceptions about how the world would work after a nuclear Armageddon (or any kind of Mass Extinction event). And it is starting to continue here..
Let me explain why in all probability FO will be limited to America..
1. Lore: Lore tells us that a full blown nuclear war raged in Europe and the middle East. Thus it is destroyed.. Europe and the Middle East may still have civilization but it will be mostly tribal in nature. The commonwealth we have in our timeline.. will not be as extensive or be an economic power like Europe is nowadays. Both WW 1 and 2 showed how fragile and how tribal Europe is in nature. Plus if one reads between the lines... we are actually told that the devastation in Europe was a lot worse..
2. And the most important: Both Artistic and Economical reasons..Fallout in America is way easier to market.
Fall Out is made with the USA in mind and by the way its factions, pre-war tech etc.. are portrayed is also social commentary (FO and FO2 more so) on American Civilization.. That fact and that fact alone will prevent a Fallout game to step beyond its borders.
It is the same reason why all next gen GTA title is limited to American Cities.
The apocalyptic imagery combined with the 50s era was partly influenced by the politic climate in the early 90's (Bush sr..and other republicans claims we should return to the values of the 50's "We must be more like the Waltons and less like the Simpsons" )
But wait Thorgal... you're European..Well yes I am.. but here is the thing American culture is by far the most universally recognized culture (especially the looks and feel of fifties america and the Sci Fi fantasies of that era)
Which is exactly why Bethesda took that aspect from previous games and expanded on it. (and made the plot somewhat simplistic)... Why Economics.. Like I argued in another thread FO3 on its own is a very good FPS/RPG hybrid.. but also a AAA title with an accompanying portrait. A sequel in a franchise which until then was a success but also a bit niche.. Hence less risk...FO3 is an expensive game.. thus they took less risk with it.. My sincere hope is that FO:NV was testing the water with a smaller budget to see if consumers would accept a less risk free title..

But enough about that let me return to the topic..
Fall Out 4 could go in three directions
It will follow FO: NV: My hope will be San Francisco and the bay area Why.. Chinese influence.. The sea.. seeing a FO2 location expanded on and rebuild with the (possibly) Skyrim engine. Plus it is my favorite City which I ironically would like to see in Ruins..
It will follow FO3: In that case chances are that we'll see an East Coast city.. or a move to the midwest.. Northwest.. I am with Sebor here.. I would love to see either Chicago or Seattle.. (and for the love of God not NYC... We've seen that city baked, cooked roasted, flooded, fictionalized as Liberty City....etc.. etc..)
Or they will take (like TES) an unrelated character, an unrelated plot and take it to a completely new area.. In that case.... New Orleans.. the swamp lands, the New Orleans Culture (music.. yes music... more variation.... apart from generic 50 hits, also a lot of New Orleans Jazz..) And again going with Sebor here... it would make way for interesting new factions..