From what you mentioned the faction, and civil war thing could stay. It could even use Cincinnati as a free area, like crossing the Ohio river brings you to freedom. Then items could be moved anywhere really if they are needed that bad. The map increase would be rather small to include all three cities, so they could also make it expand around those areas to have more wilderness in Kentucky.

If they have Louisville I want the faction or settlement in that area to take the Fleur De Lis as their symbol or banner.

Well, I was thinking the civil war was inside Kentucky, instead of all of Kentucky being on one side of a multi-state war. My idea is that one group, near Ft. Knox, would rally around Abe Lincolns monument/birthplace, since it's only 20 miles away. And the survivors around Campbell would do the same with the Jefferson Davis monument that's about 20 miles away from them. Both groups would be military descendants (Enclave? Something like it) from their respective military base. They may even think the civil war was an in-state war that's been going on for 400 years, and think they're still fighting it... against each other.

But to do a civil war as the main plot, you'd have to show both sides. And Hopkinsville is too far from Cinci to do both, I think.



I could see that. It would be interesting if an army from Louisville (named after King Louis XVI) used the French Army/Napoleon concept like the Legion did with the Roman Army. Maybe fighting over the castle at Versailles, KY? With a camp at Paris, KY?

Maybe it could be Louisville vs Lexington, and their fighting has been going on for years. And now each side is trying to get Cinch to help them.

The Lincoln people could have east Kentucky, and the Davis people could have west Kentucky. I could see a faction popping up in Louisville, but eventually they split because they moved south and found the monuments. Then the Lincoln people lost the beginning of their civil war and were pushed east where they found Lexington. They set up shop and expanded somewhat, while davis' people expanded west.

The problem I see with your map area is that there would be a lot less attraction.

The endings could have three possibilities, Louisville (Davis) wins, Lexington (Lincoln) wins, or Cincinnati boots both of them out.

That would be very interesting, I like the idea of siding with the geography and idealogies but i hope it doesn't go over board with the costumes like it did with the Legion.(football padding and loin cloths). I would like some semblance to Civil War garb but not just a copy.

Just some vague symbolism with old flags and some standard looking gear.

Also possibly expand on people trying to explore west in spirit to Lewis and Clarke but due to the threat of mutants and other settlements barring their way.

I tend to notice this about Fallout games, they tend to be set in famous cities, a common way to tell this is the 4 teams rule, cities with 4 teams in the leageus are usually famous and unique. I dont know if this is coincidence or the opposite of a coincidence. The cities include:
-Boston or the commonwealth, we could see it in the future after all the references it gets. a urban coastal wasteland
-Chicago was kinda visited in FO tactics, but it would be cool to see the whole thing. an urban wasteland
-Dallas because its texas, and fallout would be good in texas. a good southern wasteland
-Denver they were going to go there in van buren so i dont see why we cant go there now. A mountainous wasteland
-Detroit Motown baby, can use factories to make vehicles and already looks like fallout, just youtube detroit ghettos, looks scarily like fallout. an industrial wasteland
-Miami would be pretty awesome, a ocean avenue with dead palm trees and mutant gators. a tropical (kinda) wasteland
-Minneapolis-St. Paul just imagine, an arctic wasteland
-New York just a big urban wasteland.
-Philadelphia cause its just a perfect average american city. a somewhat urban and forest wasteland
-Phoenix I know we've been to a desert, but this is a unique desert with alot more plant life and cooler sand. A desert wasteland
-San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose is a mix of urban, coastal, mountains, forest, and others
-Washington D.C. been there, but i wouldn't mind going back to see it in the future. we already know the type of wasteland

They could also do teams that once hosted 4 teams and are pretty (in)famous:
-Cleveland would be a Coastal Urban and arctic wasteland.
-Kansas City would be the prairies like wasteland
-Los Angeles we been there, but why not go back in 3d, the environment was confusing to me
-St. Louis is pretty iconic and would be a river front wasteland
-Atlanta would be a southern style wasteland
-Seattle is a heavy forest and coastal wasteland
-Pittsburgh, been there again, but like i said, i wanna see its future
-Toronto because i was curios of its power

Or other worthy cities:
-Houston, a faction with space ships would be cool. a southern coastal wasteland
-Tampa Bay, a cool coastal and tropical wasteland.
-Vancouver, nice and icy. a coastal arctic wasteland
-San Diego, could be coastal,tropical and a desert.
-Charlette, with the banks, they can be rich and NASCAR now a death race. A forest like wasteland
-Cincinnati, people on this forum got good ideas. a forest wasteland
-Portland, rip city fool of people getting ripped up. a north american rainforest wasteland
-Indianapolis, kinda same as Charlette.
-Milwaukee, A nice big brewery. A coastal industrial wasteland
-Nashville, a forest southern wasteland
-Buffalo, a coastal forest wasteland
-New Orleans, WOULD.....BE.....AWESOME! a coastal wasteland
-Columbus, Americas biggest small town in ruins. a forest wasteland
-Salt Lake City, they mentioned it in honest hearts, but i wanna see it. a mountainous next to a lake wasteland
-Orlando, destroyed disney world, mutated mickey, you dont wanna see that. a theme parkish wasteland
-Sacremento, just wanna see all of cali. a, i guess desert wasteland.
-San Antonio, The alamo baby. a desert wasteland
-Jacksonville, i cool LARGE city. coastal urban wasteland
-Oklahoma City, a southern desert wasteland
-Memphis, gotta love the music. a forest riverfront wasteland

So thats my list, if any else has any great cities or ideas for these location, let us here it, it would be cool and you guys can be creative, which i cant.

I haven't really played tactics so I had to look it up, it is really close the where Chicago would be, it is just a little bit off of the lake.

Anyways my top three places

1. Philadelphia - easily continues the story of Fallout 3, hopefully they don't move too much Fallout 3 there though.
2. Seattle - would be cool to see, and they could have NCR just arriving in the area, and you could decide their fate there, it would also help decide what is canon in New Vegas if NCR showed up
3. Miami and the Florida Keys - would almost force Bethesda to use a node map system

The problem is that there wouldn't be any super mutants or Brotherhood. San Francisco is deep in NCR territory and would have been cleansed of anything that would make it interesting for a new Fallout.

The problem I see with your map area is that there would be a lot less attraction.

I see it the opposite way.

1) Ft. Knox Gold Depository (gold)
2) Ft. Campbell, home of the 101st Airborne Division (tech)
3) Birthplaces of both Presidents in the U.S. Civil War (religious sites)
4) Mammoth Cave National Park (underground city or dungeons)
5) Daniel Boone's settlement at Boonesboro (location for Longhunter faction HQ)
6) Perryville Civil War Battlefield (final battle area)

I don't know of anything in the northern part of Ky that can compete with any of that.

I see it the opposite way.

1) Ft. Knox Gold Depository (gold)
2) Ft. Campbell, home of the 101st Airborne Division (tech)
3) Birthplaces of both Presidents in the U.S. Civil War (religious sites)
4) Mammoth Cave National Park (underground city or dungeons)
5) Daniel Boone's settlement at Boonesboro (location for Longhunter faction HQ)
6) Perryville Civil War Battlefield (final battle area)

I don't know of anything in the northern part of Ky that can compete with any of that.

I say Hawaii. Specifically Oahu. Hawaii is the most militarized area per square mile in the entire United States with countless hidden bunkers throughout it. It definitely would have been hit by nuclear missiles though. The only organized survivors would likely be military and science related. Hunked down in bunkers. The rest could be Vault remnants.

There could be radioactive saltwater eroding at the foundation of Vaults and mutating the residents. There are tons of ways that you could find high tech things as there are many different research facilities and military facilities. There was once a lot of chemical weapon research going on in Hawaii.

Besides the backdrop could be a true paradise lost 50's styled setting with all the tourist and hotel things just left in disarray. Freaky palm trees swaying in the wind. The thousands of unique and isolated species could mutate into all kinds of things. There is a very odd cave spiderthat looks mother effing scary. The introduced species like Mongeese could become massive freak monsters similar to death claws. Chickens could become weird monsters as well. There are tons of cattle here so Brahmin could pop up. Boars as well. Many lizards as well. Maybe FEV experiments on Sharks. Octopi as well. Squid and whales. Zoos unleashing horrifying monsters that evolve like tigers mutants and such. There could be all sorts of things really. Would be a very dynamic game in a place like that. DLC could bring you to other islands.

Stuff like that. Thoughts?

I see it the opposite way.

1) Ft. Knox Gold Depository (gold)
2) Ft. Campbell, home of the 101st Airborne Division (tech)
3) Birthplaces of both Presidents in the U.S. Civil War (religious sites)
4) Mammoth Cave National Park (underground city or dungeons)
5) Daniel Boone's settlement at Boonesboro (location for Longhunter faction HQ)
6) Perryville Civil War Battlefield (final battle area)

I don't know of anything in the northern part of Ky that can compete with any of that.

I like all those except for Ft Knox...didn't the vault tec systems, resource wars, and Enclave wipe out the national treasury?