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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:07 pm

IDEA!!!! Call it a Temporal Distortion And it causes an infulx of energy from the Nirn sun(dimension thing) and you either move fast or time slows down for you...Now it's not bullet time!!!!

What the [censored] ! Don't you know what dragon shouts are? Have can you be on this forum and not know what dragon shouts are !?
My God....

The shout isn't called Bullet Time Shout, btw -- that's just something the magazine journalist used to describe it to his FPS fan readers.
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:00 pm

All shouts slow down time?
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Post » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:59 am

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thanks for sharing this, I'm sure to try to get my hands on this magazine as well! :thumbsup: :foodndrink:
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:13 pm

So if I don′t like a feature I should just never use whatever it is tied to, even if it has prospects I like ? So let′s say each time you cast a spell 100 adoring fans would pop up, with 10 spells you′d have 1000 of them lagging up your game screwing everything up, but it′s oki, if you want to be a mage you can just skip casting spells.

Slowing down time reduces coordination because you′re doing something really fast in fluid motion and all of a sudden you do something that slows everything down (including you) when it stops you are suddenly a lot faster than you are now used to being after getting slowed down. There is nothing wrong with slowing down things around you where you yourself can run around at normal speed, but when you yourself get slowed down because you wanted to let′s say use a spell you need to take on a dragon... that′s bad.

Oh and to the "cut scene" thing is a bit poorly worded yes. I meant it like since you slow down there is little to nothing you can do, just watch and wait for the impending doom since you won′t be as ready to take on whatever is coming at you as you would have been if you had not been slowed down.

If I can toggle the bullet time thing off in the options then I′m fine, but if not then development time was just spent on a bad feature many will just have to wait for others to spend time to remove, like smearing dirt on a product you sell someone just so they have to clean it off or have someone clean it off.

Again, it's a Slow Time dragon shout, the other shouts don't have anything bullet timey to them. So yes, just don't use it.
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:12 pm

-If you are using a two handed weapon then you use Left Trigger to block and Right trigger to attack, however if you have a one handed weapon in one hand and a spell in the other, you won't be able to block - left trigger will then be a spell and right will be attack - it is done to make you play more stratigically - be more offensive, defensive, magic based etc.


:shakehead:

Wait! If you have a spell and a sword you can't block because you're "playing offensively", but can block with two weapons or a two handed weapon because that's not playing offensively!?!? This along with the spell making issue has just about completely taken Skyrim off of the pre-order list.

...like no one would block with their weapon? Even Oblivion had that! Further proof that Bethesda has more or less nerf'd Mages. Bethesda has designed Skyrim around melee an dragonshouts and if you want to roleplay as something other than a fighter [preferrably Nord], then you'll find yourself making sacrifices. [...like of yourself to your enemy's attacks]
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:44 pm

All shouts slow down time?

No.....the bullet time one is actually called slow time shout.
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:17 pm

-There will be some enchanted weapons which don't tell you what they do - so you'll know it's magical in some way but you won't know how exactly, you'd have to find out yourself - (this would most likely apply to the things you find in dungeons, ie people wouldn't know about it so the PC wouldn't either untill it's used)

I'm getting a 'Castle of the Winds' vibe from that line. And that's not a bad thing... CotW was my introduction to RPGs, way back in the Windows 3.1 era. Good times!

I wonder if it means cursed items (that require a third party such as a temple priest to remove) are being considered. I'd approve if they were!
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:41 pm

So if I don′t like a feature I should just never use whatever it is tied to, even if it has prospects I like ? So let′s say each time you cast a spell 100 adoring fans would pop up, with 10 spells you′d have 1000 of them lagging up your game screwing everything up, but it′s oki, if you want to be a mage you can just skip casting spells.

Slowing down time reduces coordination because you′re doing something really fast in fluid motion and all of a sudden you do something that slows everything down (including you) when it stops you are suddenly a lot faster than you are now used to being after getting slowed down. There is nothing wrong with slowing down things around you where you yourself can run around at normal speed, but when you yourself get slowed down because you wanted to let′s say use a spell you need to take on a dragon... that′s bad.

Oh and to the "cut scene" thing is a bit poorly worded yes. I meant it like since you slow down there is little to nothing you can do, just watch and wait for the impending doom since you won′t be as ready to take on whatever is coming at you as you would have been if you had not been slowed down.

If I can toggle the bullet time thing off in the options then I′m fine, but if not then development time was just spent on a bad feature many will just have to wait for others to spend time to remove, like smearing dirt on a product you sell someone just so they have to clean it off or have someone clean it off.


What are you on about?? A spell that makes 100 adoring fans appear neither exists nor will it be the only spell. If you are a mage but you don't like fire then, you know, don't cast fire spells. Is it really that hard to get?? You don't have to use the dragon shout to slow down time. Doesn't stop you from using the rest of the dragon shouts though :whistling:

Regarding co-ordination. From what I would imagine you continue at normal speed. But even if you do slow down too, you're still the one that has just pressed the button to do the shout; you're therefore prepared for the fact time will slow. And you will also be aware of when it ends, considering we've been told it lasts for 8 seconds or so.
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:05 pm

So todd said "left trigger" is to block unless you have a spell equipped. This confirms that weapon has to be in right hand and spell has to be in left hand.



Maybe he just assumes the weapon is in the right hand?
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:16 pm

So todd said "left trigger" is to block unless you have a spell equipped. This confirms that weapon has to be in right hand and spell has to be in left hand.


Not neccessarily, they may just have their weapons assigned that way - I'm sure we can play lefty.

All shouts slow down time?


No. There is one shout slows down time, and that is it's sole purpose.
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:04 pm

So if I don′t like a feature I should just never use whatever it is tied to, even if it has prospects I like ? So let′s say each time you cast a spell 100 adoring fans would pop up, with 10 spells you′d have 1000 of them lagging up your game screwing everything up, but it′s oki, if you want to be a mage you can just skip casting spells.

Slowing down time reduces coordination because you′re doing something really fast in fluid motion and all of a sudden you do something that slows everything down (including you) when it stops you are suddenly a lot faster than you are now used to being after getting slowed down. There is nothing wrong with slowing down things around you where you yourself can run around at normal speed, but when you yourself get slowed down because you wanted to let′s say use a spell you need to take on a dragon... that′s bad.

Oh and to the "cut scene" thing is a bit poorly worded yes. I meant it like since you slow down there is little to nothing you can do, just watch and wait for the impending doom since you won′t be as ready to take on whatever is coming at you as you would have been if you had not been slowed down.

If I can toggle the bullet time thing off in the options then I′m fine, but if not then development time was just spent on a bad feature many will just have to wait for others to spend time to remove, like smearing dirt on a product you sell someone just so they have to clean it off or have someone clean it off.

Oh my god. I figured out where you're confused. Only one dragon shout slows time. That's the whole point of it. The 19 or so others won't affect time in any way at all.
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:18 pm

I really want to see that dragon screen that you were talking about, I hope somebody post a scan for that soon......
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:06 pm

Though we don't know what they all are,the shout's will be different.
Some for slow time,teleport,stealth etc.
But each has a cool down period,meaning it can't be used constantly over and over,you'll have to wait a certain amout of time.
Some have different cool down periods.
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:57 pm

:shakehead:

Wait! If you have a spell and a sword you can't block because you're "playing offensively", but can block with two weapons or a two handed weapon because that's not playing offensively!?!? This along with the spell making issue has just about completely taken Skyrim off of the pre-order list.

...like no one would block with their weapon? Even Oblivion had that! Further proof that Bethesda has more or less nerf'd Mages. Bethesda has designed Skyrim around melee an dragonshouts and if you want to roleplay as something other than a fighter [preferrably Nord], then you'll find yourself making sacrifices. [...like of yourself to your enemy's attacks]



yes yes of course this game has to svck because of all the second hand info your mind is receiving tells you so, go play mario cart or hugg a tree or whatever it is that dont make you whine like 3 yr old child
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:00 pm

:shakehead:

Wait! If you have a spell and a sword you can't block because you're "playing offensively", but can block with two weapons or a two handed weapon because that's not playing offensively!?!? This along with the spell making issue has just about completely taken Skyrim off of the pre-order list.

...like no one would block with their weapon? Even Oblivion had that! Further proof that Bethesda has more or less nerf'd Mages. Bethesda has designed Skyrim around melee an dragonshouts and if you want to roleplay as something other than a fighter [preferrably Nord], then you'll find yourself making sacrifices. [...like of yourself to your enemies attacks]

You're misinterpreting it. Spells are treated almost like a one-handed weapon... And what the article is saying is that you can't block with one-handed weapons - only with a 2-handed weapon (and as was pointed out previously, at reduced efficiency) or with a shield. So as a mage, you can either put a shield spell in your other hand (for magical use) or an actual shield (for mundane blocking) if defense is a priority. It makes perfect sense to me, and doesn't in any way sound like it's biased against mages to me.
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:43 pm

Oh my god. I figured out where you're confused. Only one dragon shout slows time. That's the whole point of it. The 19 or so others won't affect time in any way at all.


I don't think he's confused. Just whiny. He's under the impression that if a spell could summon 100 Adoring Fans then he couldn't be a mage, despite the fact that he could just avoid casting that particular spell :|
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:36 pm

What the [censored] ! Don't you know what dragon shouts are? Have can you be on this forum and not know what dragon shouts are !?
My God....

The shout isn't called Bullet Time Shout, btw -- that's just something the magazine journalist used to describe it to his FPS fan readers.



Obviously sarcasim was missed on you but hey it's all good tiger!
Then again it could have just been a S**t post on my part
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:47 pm

Obviously sarcasim was missed on you but hey it's all good tiger!
Then again it could have just been a S**t post on my part


Ahem.

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Yeah, let's eat grandma! /sarcasm

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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:44 pm

There are 20 dragon shouts, the "bullet time" dragon shout is one of them if you dont like it use the other 19.

In regards to blocking witha one handed sword. Try stoping somone from hiting you with a giant two handed axe with just one arm. Also blocking with your sword is a good way to get it broken or at least very badly damaged very quickly. I do think though that you should be able to parry non power attack blows from one handed wepons.
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:58 pm

:shakehead:

Wait! If you have a spell and a sword you can't block because you're "playing offensively", but can block with two weapons or a two handed weapon because that's not playing offensively!?!? This along with the spell making issue has just about completely taken Skyrim off of the pre-order list.

...like no one would block with their weapon? Even Oblivion had that! Further proof that Bethesda has more or less nerf'd Mages. Bethesda has designed Skyrim around melee an dragonshouts and if you want to roleplay as something other than a fighter [preferrably Nord], then you'll find yourself making sacrifices. [...like of yourself to your enemy's attacks]

I am up for the challenge.
I don't think Mages are being nerfed. We are getting all sorts of cool spells to use now.
Tactics and strategy should matter.
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:56 am

You're misinterpreting it. Spells are treated almost like a one-handed weapon... And what the article is saying is that you can't block with one-handed weapons - only with a 2-handed weapon (and as was pointed out previously, at reduced efficiency) or with a shield. So as a mage, you can either put a shield spell in your other hand (for magical use) or an actual shield (for mundane blocking) if defense is a priority. It makes perfect sense to me, and doesn't in any way sound like it's biased against mages to me.


One thing from what we've seen so far, so that we avoid misinterpretations.. From what the article says, it seems you can block with an one handed weapon. He said:
"If you don't have a shield [and] you have a one handed weapon or a two handed weapon, left trigger does block with that weapon."

We also know you can't block with a weapon and a spell cause he said it later in that paragraph. I don't think it's clear so far what happens with 2 one handed weapons. I'd imagine they'll go the weapon and spell route, but who knows?
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:26 pm

Good to get to know that they meant the Slow Time shout, really got me steamed up when I heard bullet time... :S Well I guess Skyrim will rock with its vanilla version then :D

I don't think he's confused. Just whiny. He's under the impression that if a spell could summon 100 Adoring Fans then he couldn't be a mage, despite the fact that he could just avoid casting that particular spell :|


If you read what I wrote correctly you′d think me confused, and I was since it was poorly worded. In any case I meant it as if most spells did that. But I will admit to being a bit whiny but for a reason, bullet time is one of the worst things to happen to games since forever, really I hate it.
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Post » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:38 am

I don't think he's confused. Just whiny. He's under the impression that if a spell could summon 100 Adoring Fans then he couldn't be a mage, despite the fact that he could just avoid casting that particular spell :|

That's silly. He commented about it being the first thing he modded out. He can't be silly enough to waste his time if he could just not use it... could he?
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:21 pm

There are 20 dragon shouts, the "bullet time" dragon shout is one of them if you dont like it use the other 19.

In regards to blocking witha one handed sword. Try stoping somone from hiting you with a giant two handed axe with just one arm. Also blocking with your sword is a good way to get it broken or at least very badly damaged very quickly. I do think though that you should be able to parry non power attack blows from one handed wepons.


still playing as a spell sword has become half useless now, since your left defenceless by the mere act of equipping a spell in one hand.

Plus countless heroes in all kinds of media have been blocking attacks with one hand, and I for one never think realism should be a obstacle for gameplay, rather it should be a spice to enhance it.
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Post » Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:23 pm

Just a thought, Is unarmed in? as being able to punch some one with one hand and stab with the other would be fun, I like to focus my characters to preserve more gameplay for other replays, i do three play throughs warrior, mage, assassin before I mix it up, so haveing just a dagger and an empty hand with out function would seem strange with all the duel wielding, would make the special punchs more useful, and more point to levelling that skill.

I also like the magic shield spell, hopefully I can enchant that on to a mithril shield and have a mirror shield of sorts.
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