Official TES VI Location and Setting Speculation

Post » Sun May 05, 2013 11:34 am

Like many others I think it's time we see an beast province. It would do good for variation especially for the old time followers.

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Emma Louise Adams
 
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Post » Sat May 04, 2013 11:29 pm

Interesting theory.

Well, I certainly hope you are right about Valenwood.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 8:53 am

Well Hammerfell looks likely with the copyrighted Redguard trademark (of course, that could be a Redguard remake).

What I would wish for personally is a revisit to the Eye of Argonia plot, a project dropped by Bethesda Softworks.

Namely within the kingdom of Argonia, which should now yield southern Morrowind and Black Marsh.
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 2:56 pm

Except Bethesda has also said there are two main demographics. We the forumites and hardcoe followers, and then the masses of more casual fans. They said what each group liked was very very different. They acknowledged subtly that we like the more bizzare stuff, but they are much more apprehensive about it. So it all depends on if they are feeling nice and want to do something for the old time fans. I will be the first person to admit me being wrong if it isn't Valenwood, I'll also be happy since I don't want to go to what is in my mind my least favourite province. I seen some polls for gamers who do only follow the game casually and the way the races fall in terms of popularity is incredibly different. Argonians being dead set middle. Khajit being almost the lowest, with orcs still being the lowest. It's really quite bizarre.

All I did was take an objective look at what we know now and put the pieces together to see where we might go.

Well we don't NEED to see the towers to continue, we don't NEED to see anything to continue. We could just have EVERY game in Cyrodil too couldn't we and simply be informed. This way they could pump out a sequel every 2 years by using the same assets. However we can still make guesses based on what we know from the lore. We know the prophecy has in the past dealt with the Oblivion gates opening, which might be something some of these gods want and others don't want. I never said there was a dire need, I have simply found (and can't take credit for) a pattern with importance to the "meta plot" since the founding of the series this has been going on in the background as lore has accumulated. Based off of previous patterns I used logic to discern likely candidates, and why the most obvious place (Hammerfell) is not very likely at all. Until proven otherwise Bethesda seems to be sticking to their gun to eventually see every province.

We most likely won't see another human province, we need a change of pace. At the same time we have been to Morrowind. So of all of these many locations we then find the lore that best fits to put them there. See if we can logically rule them out from a game development or any other sort of evidence. Unless you can show me evidence of another pattern, or why this pattern makes no sense. Then the theory is sound.

I did average out Elsyweyr to be 2.5... so it's got a better shot at being the next game than a lot of places. That ties it for third place.

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It's because of "Redguard" being copyrighted that I have NO faith in it being true. Bethesda kept Skyrim tight lipped as all hell same with Oblivion. You think they are going to slip up now? Fat chance. If it was Hammerfell then they wouldn't want people to suspect something so easily. Hammerfell is out as far as I'm concerned. Which is good news because even if they go all random and back to another human nation that leaves us with High Rock which I've always wanted to see.

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That plot might be on pause, but the Argonian lore is "building up" at a rapid pace. So who knows. I hope we can go back there too and uncover all the mysterious stuff going on. If we do see a beat place, then we'll likely get Black Marsh next because it's a lot more accepted by both old fans and the new. If we're getting a beast game any time soon, it will most likely have to be this next game.Yet evidence more strongly points to Valenwood. Unless Bethesda does go with the whole hidden tower in the swamps route we all suspect and reveal to us Black Marsh and how it ties into all of this.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 6:20 am

Well then, let's see what the other's do think.

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/where-do-you-want-the-next-elder-scrolls-game-to-take-place.207097021/

http://imgur.com/gallery/CFjM8 (lol, you can definitely tell this is the Casual public from the Highest Voted one)

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.334349-Poll-Where-do-you-think-The-Elder-Scrolls-VI-will-be-set

.... Intriguing.

and for our Poll http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1453115-the-unofficial-future-of-the-elder-scrolls-poll-part-2/

Since Elsweyr and Summerset Isles are kind of in a Stalemate for us, where did the Idea come from that Summerset Isles was Fan Popular but Elsweyr wasn't? :mellow:

It's just that the way you've been explaining it sounded like the Towers plot Is a HUGE determinant on what the next setting could be, when in reality we don't actually know how seriously Bethesda is considering that background piece of lore, and like 4 games having a Province with a standing tower could easily be a coincidence since There seems to be more provinces with Towers than not. :mellow:

What I'm trying to point out is that the Tower theory isn't as huge of a subject for the next setting as it looked like you've been making it out to be, There's still decently sized chance that the next game will have nothing to do with it at all. So you'd need both the chance that Bethesda wants the next game to have something to do with the Towers, AND then your demographics come into play of which province has something more to do with it as to being the next setting. :P

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 9:34 am

Alinor.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 4:10 am

Where did you get this Bethesda quote from? Do you have a link?

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 1:58 am

This was a really long time ago, I can do my best. Just don't count on it.

Well those are all similar demographics. The internet community. It doesn't take into effect public opinion among the more generalized mass of more casual gamers. Anyone on a forum is generally a more dedicated player. Which is hard for us to do. I think they got this data from the players themselves by watching them play.

Well... actually... there is probably a tower for every province. Also we seen one of these towers in TES Arena as well if I do recall. So that's all of the main games. Technically, the game doesn't HAVE to have any relation to these at all. The plot could be something else, but it is us being here in the area of these things that matters. Skyrim didn't directly deal with this theory either, but yet the tower may have been damaged indirectly by our actions. It's certainly possible to have more than one plot going on at once, hell if there is some shady manipulators doing all of this it would suit them quite well.

Until I see something else that is important that hasn't also been indirectly intertwined with these towers, I'm going to say the theory is sound. Sorry.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 1:00 pm

The Redguard trademark is probably related to the old (1997) game: chances are it will be given away fro free early next year, for the 15th anniversary of Arena, although it's odd they did bother to trademark it again already in march 2011, even before Skyrim was out.
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 7:32 am

Correction: The Redguard trademark is for the old 1997 game. Also, how could it possibly be the 15th anniversary of Arena next year when Daggerfall just had its 15th anniversary a year or two ago? I think you mean the 20th anniversary of Arena, since Arena released in March of 1994.

Anyway, Hammerfell and High Rock are still the most likely candidates for TES VI I think. Todd Howard seems highly interested in these two provinces, and I'm not sure I see Bethesda moving away from human-dominant provinces any time soon. The market right now probably wouldn't be too friendly for the stranger provinces with a lesser human populace in the eyes of the business aspect, regardless of what the demand actually is. The DLC expansions for Skyrim, for example, are focused almost solely on the assumption that everyone plays as a Nord, so everything was built around that, with Hearthfire sticking to just human children and Nordic architecture to not focusing too much on how the denizens of Solstheim react to and treat characters that aren't Nord (such as Dunmer PC interaction with Solstheim Dunmer, for example, heard that aspect was a bit lacking).

It's not to say that I think a game set in an elf province or a beast race province wouldn't sell, it's what Bethesda thinks will sell, and what provinces they actually want to do.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 8:53 am

My bad I wanted to say 20th anniversary. I still got somewhere a demo of Redguard that was released with a magazine. Time flies truly fast!
Yet, it's odd they renewed the trademark so long ago. In keeping with the tradition of calling their games with the name of places, the next name should be named after a province or a place central to the story, not a race/culture. That's why so many people hoped for a Redguard themed DLC.
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 2:04 pm

I'm not so sure Bethesda is as focused on that as you think. This whole adding mammoths and dragons thing was an experiment, to see if they could push the weirdness level a little. At least how I see it, did it impact their sales? Not even slightly. I think they could get away with a non-human province now. Then go back to a human one. They know this too.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 1:42 am

I don't think Dragons are 'weird'. They're accepted phantasy canon. Mammuths are just some local fauna.

The only credible hint that the next Elder Scroll may take in a beast province, interestingly, comes from Skyrim expansions which introduced two books on Kajit lore / stories and which are totally unrelated to present day quests. This struck me as rather odd, since new books introduced in each game usually pertain some events somehow linked to the current setting.
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 4:13 am

Well I did rank it was a more plausible place to go, but I find other places more likely. I'm guessing these new books are where this lore comes from about the tower being made new again if the Khajit are unified? If so... it might be a bigger hint than I expected and bump them up to be much more likely.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 4:10 am



Interesting. The actual reason these were added I believe comes from a few Khajiit quests that were going to be put in but missed the cut into the game.
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 3:28 pm



Interesting. The actual reason these were added I believe comes from a few Khajiit quests that were going to be put in but missed the cut into the game.
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 12:52 am

Oh in that case they are much less compelling evidence if hand of god brushed them off as formerly quest related.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 9:05 am

Cut from the base game or the expansions? Because these books were added in Dragonborn and that wouldn't make much sense if they were to compensate for quests cut from the base game.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 4:10 am

Obviously he means cut quests from the DLC.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 3:06 pm

crazy idea- we continue with Thalmor for next two games-

TES VI- Valenwood, crazy cannibal Bosmer in the jungle, political intrigue, mix of Splinter Cell and James Bond.

TES VII- Alinor, choose whether to let Altmer destroy world, get rid of their Nazis and just conquer it, or let Empire beat them, something like that. all sorts of crazy magic and weird glass architecture, etc.

then the last! two are sheer tripped out wacky WTF fests-

VIII- Black Marsh. crazy swamp monsters, weird Argonians, Hist is mind controlling all of them- have to convince it to not to mind control all sentient species to preserve itself.

IX- Elseweyr. cat people of all kinds on drugs, having a crisis because their culture is built on moon sugar and the moons are decaying, ends with you getting high, literally, sailing into space to the moons

Then they've been everywhere, more or less, and start over. since it's like the year 2030 by then :P

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 2:08 pm

Well you never know. None of the expansions featured anything related to the beast races because they never rehired the VAs, which makes planned quests related to them skeptical. Why plan any quests if you have no intention of hiring VAs for the beast races? Of course this is assuming that traces of these planned quests are found in the Construction Set.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 4:27 am

2014 Fallout 4

2017 TES 6

2020 Fallout 5

2023 TES 7

2026 Fallout 6

2029 TES 8

2032 Fallout 7

2035 TES 9

2038 Fallout 8

2041 TES 10

That would allow us to see the 5 provinces not done yet in their own glory. Including Hammerfell and High Rock since those games didn't get whole province games. We seen enough of Morrowind that I think it counts. I'll be lucky if I'm alive then. At minimum I will probably see 2 more TES games. Maybe.

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Writing is cheap, you plot out your quests THEN hire voice actors. It's easy to make quests, I could go and make a dozen right now. Bringing them up to AAA quality DLC with the same voice actors is another thing all together. So I think its very plausible they had some quests they were thinking of implementing, and then didn't for whatever reason.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 1:53 am



Cut from the Dragonborn expansion in addition to spears which were supposed to be added in it as well.
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 8:44 am

I would like to see it happen in Orsinium or somewhere like that to see the orcs battle the Thalmor

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 12:02 pm

Because I want to see a province where humans are not the dominant race, I don't mind going to Hammerfell it seems a lot more interesting than Skyrim. But I don't want to see a third human race in a row. I still don't buy into that crap about if it is not a human race people will not buy the game, that is just silly. I think Skyrim has has gotten so many fans for TES that people will buy the next game regardless.

Orsinium would be an excellent DLC, but it is too small for a whole game. They missed an opportunity with Orsinium as a DLC for Skyrim especially since it is in the border between Skyrim and Hammerfell.

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