Official TES V Speculation Thread Number 25

Post » Sun May 30, 2010 10:03 am

That may be so, however. All of the people that buy their games; this entire forum, those guys who play Oblivion every now and then but don't come on this forum, even those people who have their copies of an Elder Scrolls game lying under a pile of clothes in the corner of the apartment, deserve to know in a timely manner that a new TES is coming out (from the horse's mouth) and it has been a bit too long to be considered a timely manner to announce a game.


No. The fans are entitled to NOTHING. An announcement is owed to, if anyone, the employees and shareholders of Bethesda who have a right to know that their respective investments will have a return in terms of a successful product.
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 4:22 am

Maybe some one here could invest a little money into gamesas and get us some information or maybe release dates?
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 9:26 am

No. The fans are entitled to NOTHING. An announcement is owed to, if anyone, the employees and shareholders of Bethesda who have a right to know that their respective investments will have a return in terms of a successful product.


This is the only form of logic that makes sense to me as well. We deserve what we get (ie good games, forums, blogs etc. and yes newsposts but only when and how Bethesda wants them). Heck, I enjoy speculating on when and how a new TES game will be announced, but I won't be 'manning the barricades' if they don't announce anything within a self-constructed timeframe. Personally, I think Bethesda's already quite kind in the way it interacts with its community.
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 6:00 am

Look at it this way. Every game company has to create a balance between production and marketing. Bethesda tends to put a lot more effort and energy into creating the game than marketing it, and the result is a game of a high enough quality that it basically markets itself.

So don't worry about the lack of information. Just wait a year or so until the new game appears, and be thankful for all the time and money involved in creating it that wasn't spent on marketing and previews for the fans which would be mostly forgotten as soon as the game came out anyways.
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Post » Sat May 29, 2010 11:48 pm

Well, I don't want this topic to die so I guess I'll have to contribute to the discussion. I don't really understand why you guys were all getting excited about the GI cover. It has been said many times that announcement has always appeared on the site first. But I do not believe in the whole pattern idea. The development cycles and everything in between are only the same for about 2 games. After that, a whole new structure is in place. I think once again Bethesda is switching things up. They may post the announcement on the website to generate traffic or they may believe that they are big enough to announce a game at E3. And with the trademark expiring on July 31st, I think the earliest we will hear of the next game will be at E3. And it won't make much sense to announce the game after E3 since all the hype will be surrounding the games shown at E3. Unless that's what they want of course.
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 4:54 am

Well, I don't want this topic to die so I guess I'll have to contribute to the discussion. I don't really understand why you guys were all getting excited about the GI cover. It has been said many times that announcement has always appeared on the site first. But I do not believe in the whole pattern idea. The development cycles and everything in between are only the same for about 2 games. After that, a whole new structure is in place. I think once again Bethesda is switching things up. They may post the announcement on the website to generate traffic or they may believe that they are big enough to announce a game at E3. And with the trademark expiring on July 31st, I think the earliest we will hear of the next game will be at E3. And it won't make much sense to announce the game after E3 since all the hype will be surrounding the games shown at E3. Unless that's what they want of course.

You have to understand that even though the chances are incredibly low, we have to get excited about something from time to time. It's what keeps us going.
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 10:22 am

Well, I don't want this topic to die so I guess I'll have to contribute to the discussion. I don't really understand why you guys were all getting excited about the GI cover. It has been said many times that announcement has always appeared on the site first. But I do not believe in the whole pattern idea. The development cycles and everything in between are only the same for about 2 games. After that, a whole new structure is in place. I think once again Bethesda is switching things up. They may post the announcement on the website to generate traffic or they may believe that they are big enough to announce a game at E3. And with the trademark expiring on July 31st, I think the earliest we will hear of the next game will be at E3. And it won't make much sense to announce the game after E3 since all the hype will be surrounding the games shown at E3. Unless that's what they want of course.


The fact that they did it for their last 2 games makes it seem rather likely they'll do it for their next game imo. If it was only for one game, then I wouldn't think any of it, but 2 games definitely makes it seem possible. Just because you don't believe it doesn't mean it wont happen, and just because I believe it doesn't mean it will happen. But it's a definite possibility.

You can see that Oblivion was announced at the same time the magazine was announced http://www.elderscrolls.com/news/news_0403.htm, on September 10th. So it makes sense to get excited for each Game Informer issue, because if it isn't TES V, then that means that TES V likely wont be announced until the beginning of the next month. Bethesda isn't going to announce the game and the cover for the next month if the cover for the current month has already been revealed, after all. Of course that's if they do have a Game Informer cover.
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Post » Sat May 29, 2010 8:55 pm

It's a little strange though, Morrowind was released in 2002 and we got an Oblivion announcement in 2004, 2 years after. Why hasn't Bethesda even announced TESV after 4 years? The only explanation I can think of is that it's because of Fallout 3.

That said, I think the chances are high for a magazine announcement any month now. As each month goes by the chances increase, and with so few months until E3 the chances for an announcement soon grow greatly every month. Who knows, maybe the May edition of GI will have the announcement.
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 3:35 am

I'd just like to add a little something.

Recently the only gaming program on TV here did an article about the history of the series after many people on their requested it. At the end they commented on how there was no news of an TES5 yet, and how suprising it is that there isnt.


shows that the ES series is far from dead, butt people are scratching thier heads about TES5.
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 11:10 am

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shows that the ES series is far from dead, butt people are scratching thier heads about TES5.


Butt people!?! Who are these insidious Butt People?! Just kidding. But yea. 4 years is a long time not to announce a game, especially since they usually announce it a year or more before release.

Either the game was pushed back by Fallout (I've seen someone map out development cycles and Fallout fit right where an Elderscrolls could have been, basically in that two year gap)

OR they are changing their PR scheme, announcing it < 12 months from release.

You can guess what I'm hoping for. What I think will happen is we will get an announcement soon (now till early fall) but it will be another year or two.

I do think Beth runs the risk of falling to the way side in the RPG department. The best way to make new games is learn from your mistakes, which you can't do till make make those mistakes on your current game. Bethesda's "current" game in TES is years old, and they've never once mentioned the huge fan backlash against the decreased content and scaling issues of Oblivion.
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 8:41 am

bethesda has become a publisher big time
and some of those games have not been very good
then there is the fiasco with fallout 3 and the PS3- constant freezing etc- major issues never fixed
i know because i own the game on both consoles - xbox and ps3
the economy is not good and games are expensive to make
frankly i do not expect another tes game
there are a lot of good and great games out there now and coming up
other studios do tell people that they are making the next game etc
this company is way too quiet about any games they might be making but they are talking about publishing more games
and frankly other companies have done a better job both in story telling graphics controls etc
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 10:11 am

Recently the only gaming program on TV here did an article about the history of the series after many people on their requested it. At the end they commented on how there was no news of an TES5 yet, and how suprising it is that there isnt.

Ah, yes, I missed that episode. :rolleyes: I was wondering what they'd have to say about an ES V.
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 4:46 am

there are 25 of these speculation threads...i'd say interest in a new game is off the charts

however, to come right out and announce a new installment out of the blue doesn't make any sense to me. has anyone here ever been through one of these long waiting periods between games before? when an almost guaranteed installment of a successful franchise is finally announced, most dev studios and publishers do it in grand style. blog posts and website articles are usually reserved for new IP games or for lower-budget titles...not a 5th sequel in a long running series. i suspect a trade-show announcement followed shortly by a flashy webpage full of info....hell, judging from all the 'hype tv' fallout 3 got on G4, i wouldn't be surprised if they air an hour-long 'preview special' in the same fashion.

don't you see? this very thread is Beth's personal hype machine...and it's working over capacity.
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 6:29 am

bethesda has become a publisher big time
and some of those games have not been very good

true, they are raking in publishing money with all these games, many of which have been rated poorly. I hope this wont tarnish the bethesda name too badly....esspecially since alot of people think bethesda have developed the game, not just published it.

then there is the fiasco with fallout 3 and the PS3- constant freezing etc- major issues never fixed
i know because i own the game on both consoles - xbox and ps3

Im my opinion.....bethesda just chucked fallout 3 away the moment the DLCs were out and they had the customer's money. At least on the PC we dcan bugfix, but the game would be horrible for a console user, and it shouldnt be up to modders to fix dev mistakes.....helll there wasnt even ever a good bugfixing/glitchfixing patch for the game. They better pay more attention to TES5, or their name will start getting really tarnished.

the economy is not good and games are expensive to make

economy is fine here, last i checked, all that trouble is over.

frankly i do not expect another tes game
there are a lot of good and great games out there now and coming up
other studios do tell people that they are making the next game etc
this company is way too quiet about any games they might be making but they are talking about publishing more games
and frankly other companies have done a better job both in story telling graphics controls etc

I dont see why not, TES has always been the staple of bethesda, throwing away thier signiture name would be stupid....when the previous games have made them so much. last i checked also, there arent that many sword/magic RPGs out there with as big a open scope as the ES series has. Competition would be pretty easy for them, with a strong brand name and few other games to match the ES games, no doubt it would be a success.

ES has always had its main focus on 'do anything, go anywhere, be whoever you want to'. Ive yet ot ever play a game like that, any others always seems to have a linear story line (though iwth choice, though normally just good/evil). Also, you say that bethesa lacks graphics? yet when oblivion, and morrowind, were released they are always acclaimed as some of the best graphics in a game. The industry moves quickly though, so in a few months they start looking older compared to other big name games. Though bethesda needs a better animation department.....or maybe more animaters. If bethesda goes back to morrowind grade writers, the story would be amazing again, rather then the generic drival we got in oblivion.

As long as bethesda focuses on that, then it'll do the ES series justice....if they start forcing linear pathways with few, or meaningless choices.....welll the ES series would be in trouble.....

there are 25 of these speculation threads...i'd say interest in a new game is off the charts

however, to come right out and announce a new installment out of the blue doesn't make any sense to me. has anyone here ever been through one of these long waiting periods between games before? when an almost guaranteed installment of a successful franchise is finally announced, most dev studios and publishers do it in grand style. blog posts and website articles are usually reserved for new IP games or for lower-budget titles...not a 5th sequel in a long running series. i suspect a trade-show announcement followed shortly by a flashy webpage full of info....hell, judging from all the 'hype tv' fallout 3 got on G4, i wouldn't be surprised if they air an hour-long 'preview special' in the same fashion.

don't you see? this very thread is Beth's personal hype machine...and it's working over capacity.


Totally agree, the blog will have it quickly, but at the same time it'll be all over the magazines and press releases. E3 is when i reckon it'll all come out, when people are looking at the industry, then i'll be in the mags.
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 4:23 am

there are 25 of these speculation threads...i'd say interest in a new game is off the charts

however, to come right out and announce a new installment out of the blue doesn't make any sense to me. has anyone here ever been through one of these long waiting periods between games before? when an almost guaranteed installment of a successful franchise is finally announced, most dev studios and publishers do it in grand style. blog posts and website articles are usually reserved for new IP games or for lower-budget titles...not a 5th sequel in a long running series. i suspect a trade-show announcement followed shortly by a flashy webpage full of info....hell, judging from all the 'hype tv' fallout 3 got on G4, i wouldn't be surprised if they air an hour-long 'preview special' in the same fashion.

don't you see? this very thread is Beth's personal hype machine...and it's working over capacity.

I agree completely. You can bet your top dollar that Bethesda comes into these forums, looks at them, and then say, "Yeahhhhh. Hehehhehe."
You know they do. And then Pete Hines chuckles with Todd Howard about it. They know what they are doing. And when they are ready, when we have just pushed ourselves to the brink, they'll announce it.
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Post » Sat May 29, 2010 7:53 pm

Push harder, the brink will come sooner, and TESV will be announced. In traditional cult fashion, I designate myself as a divinely inspired leader. Will you join me?
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 3:22 am

No. The fans are entitled to NOTHING. An announcement is owed to, if anyone, the employees and shareholders of Bethesda who have a right to know that their respective investments will have a return in terms of a successful product.


Zenimax Media is a privately owned corporation... I tried to be a shareholder but they wouldn't let me :nope:
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 7:33 am

there are 25 of these speculation threads...i'd say interest in a new game is off the charts

however, to come right out and announce a new installment out of the blue doesn't make any sense to me. has anyone here ever been through one of these long waiting periods between games before? when an almost guaranteed installment of a successful franchise is finally announced, most dev studios and publishers do it in grand style. blog posts and website articles are usually reserved for new IP games or for lower-budget titles...not a 5th sequel in a long running series. i suspect a trade-show announcement followed shortly by a flashy webpage full of info....hell, judging from all the 'hype tv' fallout 3 got on G4, i wouldn't be surprised if they air an hour-long 'preview special' in the same fashion.

don't you see? this very thread is Beth's personal hype machine...and it's working over capacity.



Yeah, look at THIEF 4. Announced May 11th, 2009 and yet there is still nothing there but a web forum. Many people over there are getting extremely agitated over not hearing or seeing any progress whatsoever from the dev team. I think there may have been a few pictures (and by pictures it shows the dev team meeting people, NO screenshots, hahah) and stuff posted there recently, I am following that game as well as TES V, except not as fervently as TES V. I bring this up just to show how announcing a game too early can bring negativity to a developer. The forums there are rampant with people wondering how things are going and with what people are expecting out of the game now that they KNOW it is being developed, and those people will be up to huge disappointments if their expectations are not met, which they probably won't be.

Bethseda is avoiding this very thing by holding the announcement off for TES V. Granted we can speculate all we want here, it is fun to do so, but nothing really said here is expected to be in the game because we don't even know if it EXISTS yet. I'm sure once it is announcd it will soon be followed by screenshots or a video so we can see part of what it contains and it will level our expectations realistically. Haha, and they hopefully have learned from the mistake of showing video on oblivion with those awesome shadows and then game release comes and there aren't those shadows. All of this makes Bethseda holding off on an announcement understandable.

However, either way, the trademark deadline is stong enough evidence for me that a TES V announcement will be soon. I couldn't give a crap about game informer until I know it's shown there, then I'll go get that month's edition.
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Push harder, the brink will come sooner, and TESV will be announced. In traditional cult fashion, I designate myself as a divinely inspired leader. Will you join me?


I will follow you.

And Beth throw us a friggen bone over here for christ sake!!!
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 3:58 am

Had a dream about the launch trailer last night, or maybe opening cinematic, thought I'd share (slightly modified so it makes more sense):

FADE IN: We are looking up, it seems, at a beautifully starry night sky, and as we pull out slowly we start to see Mundus' familiar moons and nebula. The sound of a young woman humming the "Reign of the Septims' melody slowly and lazily can be heard and suddenly, our vision ripples as if the surface is water. As we pull out further we see that we have been staring down into a large bowl about five feet across, full of mercury-like liquid reflecting the overhead sky, as someone off-camera is dripping strange, glowing droplets into it, making the surface shimmer and quake with magical essence...

We pull out further and begin to recognize where this bowl might be...the very top of the White-Gold Tower, and as we can see far down to the Imperial City below we notice it has been expanded quite drastically, at least 30-40 years of work (there was a new outer ring that extended to the very edge of the island, so there was no actual land, just city, and there were more off-shoots that looked built directly onto the water). The person pouring into the bowl is ornately robed and the face is covered, but the small delicate hand, outstretched over the liquid, indicates a female, possibly even a child. Then the humming subsides and she speaks in an ethereal whisper: "Find them...bring to me."

At that, the essences in the liquid begin to swirl rapidly and form clouds that occasionally can be mistaken for familiar corporeal forms, then from the surface of the bowl a rushing pillar of dark, glowing fog bursts into the sky, engulfing our view...

DISSOLVE TO: We are flying through storm-clouds, the transition is seamless, and we descend below their mantel, flying quickly through rain whipping around us. The familiar build of the orchestral score can be heard growing louder as we come out of the clouds. We realize that we are following a dark winged form that we can never quite get a proper glimpse of, but it speeds toward an amber glow on the frothing water's surface below: a large trade galleon of some kind, far out in the Abecean sea, with no land-sight in any direction. It is tossed by the swells and we get close enough to see the sailors trying desperately to keep her from being capsized, several bring pulled overboard by the wind and waves. We circle around her and eventually, as the melody of the TES theme breaks, we push through the amber-lit window of the captain's cabin...

That's when I woke up, pretty familiar to the opening cinematic for Oblivion structurally, but effective as all hell and far darker. Definitely woke up with chills up my spine, haha. The woman was also talking the whole time but the only part I remember is what she first said, it was kinda like the voice in the beginning of MW but younger. It was pretty cool. Definitely indicates a Summerset Isle or full mainland setting.

If only it had really happened... :sadvaultboy:
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Post » Sat May 29, 2010 11:20 pm

Had a dream about the launch trailer last night,


Has anyone else noticed the sudden rise in the number of these "dream" comments?

Looks like the Sixth House is working for Bethesda...
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Post » Sat May 29, 2010 9:40 pm

Looks like the Sixth House is working for Bethesda...


:laugh: :laugh: agreed!
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Has anyone else noticed the sudden rise in the number of these "dream" comments?

Looks like the Sixth House is working for Bethesda...


For sure, right?! Weird stuff.
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 1:07 am

Meh TESV will come when it will come .........there can be worse waits though :shrug: Some people here are ticking it out it seems.
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Post » Sun May 30, 2010 9:22 am

Well, it's fun to speculate. That's why I venture to this thread every now and then.
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