[Dan Stevens]

Also, wasn't there some other company that is going to get the Skyrim trademark if Bethesda lets it expire? Even less reason for them to let that happen.

As long as the other company isn't aiming for the Skyrim trademark to make a computer game, they can get it anyway. The trademark only covers the area it is trademarked for, so a phone company, for instance, could easily get a trademark Skyrim for their new wireless network services with no problem.

And kind of a naive question, but would the full name of the game have to be trademarked? Or would this def be called TES V: Skyrim (If this is in fact TES V)?

As far as I know, not only exact name, but also the logo of how that name will appear

[Deon Knight]

As far as I know, not only exact name, but also the logo of how that name will appear

They don't. Morrowind and Oblivion were only trademarked as Morrowind and Oblivion, and NOT The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind or The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, so they obviously don't have to do anything different with Skyrim.

[Rob]

I may have said it before, at least I thought it before. Antibody, if its 6 months to re-trademark Skyrim, why does that mean TESV will be announced by the current deadline. I am with you, in that I want it. But if development is more than an additional 6 months away from being done...

And I do get all the extra factors going into this. What with the books, trivia, Staff activity, trademark...
Just saying.

[Jennifer Munroe]

I may have said it before, at least I thought it before. Antibody, if its 6 months to re-trademark Skyrim, why does that mean TESV will be announced by the current deadline. I am with you, in that I want it. But if development is more than an additional 6 months away from being done...

And I do get all the extra factors going into this. What with the books, trivia, Staff activity, trademark...
Just saying.

It's not just 6 months though, it could be 5 months, it could be a year. All we know is that it takes anywhere from a few months to a year, which is why I've been saying it will take at least 6 months.

I've said this numerous times, but I'll say it again, why would Bethesda renew the trademark in January if they weren't going to be able to use it before it expired in July. If they were that far away from being able to announce it, why wouldn't they just let it expire in January? If it expired in January, while it would still take months to get a new one, it would be quicker than waiting until July to let it expire.

It just doesn't make sense, to me, that they would renew it in January just to let it expire in July.

[Rich O'Brien]

I've said this numerous times, but I'll say it again, why would Bethesda renew the trademark in January if they weren't going to be able to use it before it expired in July. If they were that far away from being able to announce it, why wouldn't they just let it expire in January? If it expired in January, while it would still take months to get a new one, it would be quicker than waiting until July to let it expire.

It just doesn't make sense, to me, that they would renew it in January just to let it expire in July.

Do you think Bethesda is and was in January all too aware of the trademark completely expiring in July?

[REVLUTIN]

I get it, the possibility. But either way development costs the same and takes the same amount of time. That possible 1 year block of time pushes a possible announcement to E3 next year, with continued time to develop and tweak the game for a late 2011 or early 2012 release. And again, I get that the sooner might be better, and that not renewing the trademark saves a bit of everything.

So...Why not?
Its not the best answer to your why, but all the blurbs that we have heard that suggest otherwise are not binding developmental stages for a release schedule. The game engine comment makes me think it would be closer to a 2012 release.

[Talitha Kukk]

Well, I don't know what else to say, after all, none of us will know what will happen until they announce it or it expires. We'll just have to wait and see. :shrug:

[Austin England]

But I want it nooooooooow.

[Laura Wilson]

The trademark for Skyrim was renewed as recently as January. Whatever Skryim is, it's definitely being worked on, and if they are going to announce it, it has to be before July 31st. IF Skyrim isn't for TES V, then where is the trademark for TES V?

The book definitely will be on the shelves before we see the release of TES V. After they announce it, they will likely take 1-2 years to release it, like they did with Morrowind and Oblivion, which gives them plenty of time to release the book.

I think they'll announce TES V in order to drive up sales for the book. People will buy the book to see what happens before the game. If they release the book before the announcement, fewer people will care or be aware of the book.

Where is the trademark for skyrim? can someone give me a link?

[ShOrty]

Where is the trademark for skyrim can someone give me a link?

Go here:

http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/index.jsp

Click on Search Marks, then click New User Form Search (Basic), then type in Skyrim, click Submit Query, and every result except the third one down belongs to Bethesda/ Zenimax. Click on the second one, and click on the button called TARR Status to see the available information.

I can't just link to it because the links stop working after a few minutes when the session expires.

[Eileen Collinson]

Wouldn't it svck if the second book was An elder scrolls novel: skyrim? That would be useing the trademark wouldn't it?

This has been trademarked for years, and besides, it's trademarked for videogames.

[CYCO JO-NATE]

Good news! Cliffys announcement on Jimmey Fallon has been postponed until like the 12th. And, GI will be out and in our hands by then. Meaning this months Game Informer may not be Gears 3

[Mandy Muir]

It's not just 6 months though, it could be 5 months, it could be a year. All we know is that it takes anywhere from a few months to a year, which is why I've been saying it will take at least 6 months.

I've said this numerous times, but I'll say it again, why would Bethesda renew the trademark in January if they weren't going to be able to use it before it expired in July. If they were that far away from being able to announce it, why wouldn't they just let it expire in January? If it expired in January, while it would still take months to get a new one, it would be quicker than waiting until July to let it expire.

It just doesn't make sense, to me, that they would renew it in January just to let it expire in July.

Unforeseen development issues? Too much can change in 6 months. I know this will be comparing apples to camels, but a company I worked for doing 3rd party consulting for Ford had to renew ISO accreditation because of an expiration of "corrective action" with the certifying auditor. The certification was only to last 4 days, but instead took nearly 2 months.

Anyways, this is an interesting point. Why the struggle on such a trivial name in such an immense series of game lore? Why the continuing renewal? You have obvious and reasonable cause for interest. May I add the following?

The basic idea is that use of a trademark is sometimes necessary to identify and talk about another party's products and services

This is called, "Nominative Usage". The full review is found here:

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/metaschool/fisher/domain/tm.htm

Good news! Cliffys announcement on Jimmey Fallon has been postponed until like the 12th. And, GI will be out and in our hands by then. Meaning this months Game Informer may not be Gears 3

BsterBuster, Can you elaborate please?

[IsAiah AkA figgy]

I dreamed of the Elder Scrolls V release announcement last night. As my 'visions' are never wrong, here are some things that will surprise you.

TES V:
Will consist graphically entirely of ray tracing.
Will look like a PSP version of Oblivion.
Will NOT allow you to choose any race besides Imperial.
Will have an ugly brown tone to everything.
Will not use an updated engine.

Still I was excited. :celebration:

[Jessica Stokes]

Unforeseen development issues? Too much can change in 6 months. I know this will be comparing apples to camels, but a company I worked for doing 3rd party consulting for Ford had to renew ISO accreditation because of an expiration of "corrective action" with the certifying auditor. The certification was only to last 4 days, but instead took nearly 2 months.

Anyways, this is an interesting point. Why the struggle on such a trivial name in such an immense series of game lore? Why the continuing renewal? You have obvious and reasonable cause for interest. May I add the following?

The basic idea is that use of a trademark is sometimes necessary to identify and talk about another party's products and services

This is called, "Nominative Usage". The full review is found here:

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/metaschool/fisher/domain/tm.htm




BsterBuster, Can you elaborate please?

http://xbox-360.nowgamer.com/news/2883/bleszinski-tv-reveal-postponed

apprently he want to pollish the game up more before unveiling what it is, so he will wait untill monday. theres still hope for gi this month then

[Taylor Thompson]

Good news! Cliffys announcement on Jimmey Fallon has been postponed until like the 12th. And, GI will be out and in our hands by then. Meaning this months Game Informer may not be Gears 3

I don't know what the first part means but I'm glad.

I dreamed of the Elder Scrolls V release announcement last night. As my 'visions' are never wrong, here are some things that will surprise you.

TES V:
Will consist graphically entirely of ray tracing.
Will look like a PSP version of Oblivion.
Will NOT allow you to choose any race besides Imperial.
Will have an ugly brown tone to everything.
Will not use an updated engine.

Still I was excited. :celebration:

I'd still buy it.

[Laura]

:ahhh:

Why wont they just tell us. Dont they know what theyre doing to us. Why do they have to toture us so.

[James Shaw]

http://xbox-360.nowgamer.com/news/2883/bleszinski-tv-reveal-postponed

apprently he want to pollish the game up more before unveiling what it is, so he will wait untill monday. theres still hope for gi this month then

We can only hope I guess , no one has really slipped it yet since the book fiasco .

[Elizabeth Lysons]

Good news! Cliffys announcement on Jimmey Fallon has been postponed until like the 12th. And, GI will be out and in our hands by then. Meaning this months Game Informer may not be Gears 3

Until we start getting undeniable activity on elderscrolls.com, all Game Informer updates are simply inconsequential and of little value here.

[Pumpkin]

Until we start getting undeniable activity on elderscrolls.com, all Game Informer updates are simply inconsequential and of little value here.

Unless they plan on doing it all at once. It's a possibility, at least. we have no idea beyond the end of July.

[Oceavision]

I do have to admit, I am intrigued by the face that GI will likely not be Gears 3

[Roddy]

I was looking under goods and services and found this.


International Class: 025
Class Status: Active
Clothing, namely shirts, t-shirts, sweatshirts, sweaters, jackets; headgear, namely, headwear.
Basis: 1()
First Use Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)
First Use in Commerce Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)
I also found these to.

International Class: 016
Class Status: Active
Computer and video game user instruction manuals; magazines, books, and pamphlets concerning video games; computer and video game strategy guides
Basis: 1()
First Use Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)
First Use in Commerce Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)

Computer game programs; downloadable computer game programs offered via handheld computers, wireless telephones and mobile and wireless devices
Basis: 1()
First Use Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)
First Use in Commerce Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)
Providing a high speed access to area networks and a global computer information network; Providing telecommunications connections to a global computer network; Telecommunications services, namely, personal communication services; Wireless broadband communication services; Wireless electronic transmission of voice signals, data, facsimiles, images and informations

this to me sounds like elder scrolls V

[мistrєss]

snip

old news buddy :whistling:

[STEVI INQUE]

Still rooting for E3 release. I had visions.

[Céline Rémy]

Where did you guys get the idea that this month's Game Informer would relate to The Elder Scrolls V in any way? It seems so arbitrary. Why didn't you get all excited for last month's issue? Why not next month? Are you going to do this for every issue?