[Jacob Phillips]

Jesus, sorry. I posted a legit Bethesda developer's comment about unnamed future/in development projects, and you get freaked out. Its gonna be alright :unsure:

No, I "freaked out," as you seem to think, because what you posted was pointless. It didn't offer any new information, and nothing we can speculate on. I still don't believe it's the same guy, hell I can go onto any forum right now and make a username called "Gstaff" and act like him. But even if he is legit, he didn't give us anything to speculate on, but you're acting like this is the holy grail of developer statements. Oooh, aaah, they may not be using DX11, yeah that's very important and concrete information.

2. It looks like from these comments that Bethesda has NOT been using DX 11, which would again push for a release fairly soon, as that means development DID start years ago.[/b]

That doesn't make any sense. There are only a handful of games out there that utilize DX11. And plenty of those games were in development for more than a few months. Many games released recently DID NOT utilize DX11, but that doesn't mean they couldn't use DX11, they simple didn't. Not all PC games suddenly have to use DX11 you know.

The possibility that they aren't utilizing DX11 proves absolutely nothing.

These comments do push for a release, prob within 2 years

What? Where on earth did you get that idea? Yes, it's likely the game will be announced within two years, but this "developers" comments don't hint to that at all.

Hopefully you won't struggle interpreting any future speculation

Aw well aren't you cute, resorting to personal insults. Want some ice cream buddy? :icecream:

[Teghan Harris]

that was rather interesting.

I can honestly now say, i dont have a clue what they are going to do. Its Bethesda Softworks at E3, would they announce the "new game" there?. Are Bethesda just going to let the trademark go without an announcement?

Our only hope in my opinion is an announcement through the website or magazine, but why would they announce it and not be showing it at E3?

There is no logic. THERE IS NO LOGIC!!!!

[Haley Merkley]

No, I "freaked out," as you seem to think, because what you posted was pointless. It didn't offer any new information, and nothing we can speculate on. I still don't believe it's the same guy, hell I can go onto any forum right now and make a username called "Gstaff" and act like him. But even if he is legit, he didn't give us anything to speculate on, but you're acting like this is the holy grail of developer statements. Oooh, aaah, they may not be using DX11, yeah that's very important and concrete information.



That doesn't make any sense. There are only a handful of games out there that utilize DX11. And plenty of those games were in development for more than a few months. Many games released recently DID NOT utilize DX11, but that doesn't mean they couldn't use DX11, they simple didn't. Not all PC games suddenly have to use DX11 you know.

The possibility that they aren't utilizing DX11 proves absolutely nothing.



What? Where on earth did you get that idea? Yes, it's likely the game will be announced within two years, but this "developers" comments don't hint to that at all.



Aw well aren't you cute, resorting to personal insults. Want some ice cream buddy? :icecream:

What do you not get?? The fact that it is not going to be DX 11, if the guy is legit, proves that the game WILL be released on this current console gen. That was my point through this whole thing. Is that info not worthy in a speculation thread?
"This thread is for member speculation of when and if TES V will be released. This is where you post any new information about when it might be released, tidbits from interviews which mention it and such. It is also where you post your theories of when you think it might come out based on guesses, number crunching, rumors or such."



BTW, I find it very hard to believe that someone looked up a you-tube page called VSIONS, looked at his resume, and decided to post that info under that name.

And nothing I say on here is personal, don't take it that way. :wink_smile:

[Chloe :)]

What do you not get?? The fact that it is not going to be DX 11, if the guy is legit, proves that the game WILL be released on this current console gen. That was my point through this whole thing. Is that info not worthy in a speculation thread? I then speculated that I believe within 2-3 years, the game will be released and that it would be announced at E3. WTF is wrong with what I said?

I get it just fine, I think you're the one not getting it. First off, what he said was not said on the official Bethesda forums, and not with his official developer account. If it is said anywhere else, there is absolutely no way to prove this guy is the real deal. You can believe it all you want but I can do the same thing this guy is doing and pretend I'm, say, Gstaff, and while I would have no way to prove it, I would have people like you eating right out of my hand now wouldn't I? You can't believe everything you see on the internet.

I'm tired of arguing about something some random guy said, who has not proven that he is who he says he is. You can continue being gullible and believing everybody on the internet says they are who they really are, that's fine with me. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to pay attention to Joe Biden for a bit, he's getting antsy. Yeah, I'm Barack Obama. What, you say I can't prove that? Neither can this guy who says he's a developer.

[Jessica White]

I get it just fine, I think you're the one not getting it. First off, what he said was not said on the official Bethesda forums, and not with his official developer account. If it is said anywhere else, there is absolutely no way to prove this guy is the real deal. You can believe it all you want but I can do the same thing this guy is doing and pretend I'm, say, Gstaff, and while I would have no way to prove it, I would have people like you eating right out of my hand now wouldn't I? You can't believe everything you see on the internet.

I'm tired of arguing about something some random guy said, who has not proven that he is who he says he is. You can continue being gullible and believing everybody on the internet says they are who they really are, that's fine with me. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to pay attention to Joe Biden for a bit, he's getting antsy. Yeah, I'm Barack Obama. What, you say I can't prove that? Neither can this guy who says he's a developer.

I get the fact that "there is absolutely no way to prove" this guy is legit. Speculation, by definition: "the act of forming opinions about what has happened or what might happen without knowing all the facts" This is what the topic of the thread! Get this through your head: Nothing is this thread can prove ANYTHING It is all speculation, and there is the possibility that development hasn't even started.


You're acting like he said something so revealing, it couldn't be a developer. If it was some ass pulling a prank, then I'm sure he would have been more direct towards TES V.


There was nothing to prove that the May Game Informer issue would feature TES V either.

Now if you'll excuse me, I just heard that the June Game Informer issue is going to be BIG!!! Its going to be TES V!!!!! Oblivion and Morrowind were announced in Game Informer too!!!

[alicia hillier]

I get the fact that "there is absolutely no way to prove" this guy is legit. Speculation, by definition: "the act of forming opinions about what has happened or what might happen without knowing all the facts" This is what the topic of the thread! Get this through your head: Nothing is this thread can prove ANYTHING It is all speculation, and there is the possibility that development hasn't even started.


You're acting like he said something so revealing, it couldn't be a developer. If it was some ass pulling a prank, then I'm sure he would have been more direct towards TES V.


There was nothing to prove that the May Game Informer issue would feature TES V either.

Now if you'll excuse me, I just heard that the June Game Informer issue is going to be BIG!!! Its going to be TES V!!!!! Oblivion and Morrowind were announced in Game Informer too!!!

Lol? Actually, bud, through the facts in this thread, there are things we can prove.

[FoReVeR_Me_N]

Lol? Actually, bud, through the facts in this thread, there are things we can prove.

Other than the fact that Skyrim has been Trademarked, and Bethesda has been retooling their engine since 2008, what can you prove?

[Ezekiel Macallister]

I get the fact that "there is absolutely no way to prove" this guy is legit. Speculation, by definition: "the act of forming opinions about what has happened or what might happen without knowing all the facts" This is what the topic of the thread! Get this through your head: Nothing is this thread can prove ANYTHING

You're acting like he said something so revealing, it couldn't be a developer. If it was some ass pulling a prank, then I'm sure he would have been more direct towards TES V.

Your argument is silly. You can't speculate that a guy is who he really says he is, when you have no proof, then speculate that what he says is true. It's like speculating that the moon is made of cheese, and have no proof to support that theory, then speculating that it must have some sort of cheese-hungry creature forming all of the craters on it. You can't argue that one thing is true if it is dependent on a theory you have no proof is true either.

Tell you what, you get the guy to sign on here with his official developer account, and say that the account on that forum is really his, and then, and ONLY then, will we discuss whether or not what he says is true, and the implications of it. But like you said, he didn't say anything revealing, so it's not like it even matters.

[Tinkerbells]

Your argument is silly. You can't speculate that a guy is who he really says he is, when you have no proof, then speculate that what he says is true. It's like speculating that the moon is made of cheese, and have no proof to support that theory, then speculating that it must have some sort of cheese-hungry creature forming all of the craters on it. You can't argue that one thing is true if it is dependent on a theory you have no proof is true either.

Tell you what, you get the guy to sign on here with his official developer account, and say that the account on that forum is really his, and then, and ONLY then, will we discuss whether or not what he says is true, and the implications of it. But like you said, he didn't say anything revealing, so it's not like it even matters.

OK, fair enough. The only thing that matters in what he said was that DX 11 is not in use, meaning most likely current gen

[Stefanny Cardona]

Other than the fact that Skyrim has been Trademarked, and Bethesda has been retooling their engine since 2008, what can you prove?

Uh, those are facts, and they are proven. That's what I said. That there are proven facts in this thread.
What more, exactly, do you want? I disproved your statement.

OK, fair enough. The only thing that matters in what he said was that DX 11 is not in use, meaning most likely current gen

You're still talking like you know that's a dev or something. Until I see some proof saying that the person who you quoted is a developer of Bethesda, his information or what he says about the game is pretty irrelevant.
Like Antibody said, I can say I'm Brooke Burke. But I'm not tan, or female, nor do I have curves that could implode a submarine.

[Bedford White]

that was rather interesting.

I can honestly now say, i dont have a clue what they are going to do. Its Bethesda Softworks at E3, would they announce the "new game" there?. Are Bethesda just going to let the trademark go without an announcement?

Our only hope in my opinion is an announcement through the website or magazine, but why would they announce it and not be showing it at E3?

There is no logic. THERE IS NO LOGIC!!!!

My opinion is that if TESV is being announced this year it's being shown at E3, either as the announcement outright or video footage and dev interviews after a website or magazine announcement. Otherwise, the trademark dies at the end of July.

[Hayley O'Gara]

Uh, those are facts, and they are proven. That's what I said. That there are proven facts in this thread.
What more, exactly, do you want? I disproved your statement.


You're still talking like you know that's a dev or something. Until I see some proof saying that the person who you quoted is a developer of Bethesda, his information or what he says about the game is pretty irrelevant.
Like Antibody said, I can say I'm Brooke Burke. But I'm not tan, or female, nor do I have curves that could implode a submarine.

Ok, I admit I was wrong on that. Other than those 2 very basic facts, what else can be proven? How do we know that this is TES V? Everything in this thread relies on those 2 facts.

[Miragel Ginza]

Looks like people need to calm down. I see the guy's logic - nothing "visions" said was totally outrageous so it's possible it's the real guy. And I think the only reason he decided to post this info here is to add to the speculation. Not to start fights over what speculation is. I mean this thread was really dry lately so additions like this should be welcomed.

[Emma Pennington]

I am secretly Todd Howard and TES V will be released when pigs fly, hell freezes over, the moon is blue, the seas turn red, and it is M'aiq's birthday.


Seriously though, speculation does take some bit of faith, but it doesn't have to be absolutely blind. So what that some random person claimed Bethesda isn't using DX11? Neither are most developers. If I told you Duke Nukem Forever wasn't using DX11 would you suddenly make a conclusion that it is going to come out in the next two years?

What we try to use are facts. Skyrim is copyrighted, Bethesda is retooling their engine, and they do not make MMOs. These we know, and these we can work off of with new information (such as the newly found changed statement of use filing which might mean we could get something soon. Besides that, we also know for a fact that they have until July to announce the game or risk losing the copyright).

[Sweets Sweets]

If you want my real opinion, Skyrim trademark is the MMO, and with the recent activity WRT the trademark, will be announced at E3. The court transcripts between interplay and Bethesda, development on the game has apparently been ongoing since late 2006, with “tens of millions of dollars” invested and “close to a hundred people” working on it, AND, papers filed in the court case between Interplay and Bethesda have mentioned a “World of Warcraft type MMO” by Bethesda. Bethesda tried to pull this info. When was the Skyrim name trademarked??? 2006. The comments last August, saying don't expect TES V for a while. It all really makes sense. This is the best opinion I can can form based on everything.

[Averielle Garcia]

Ok, I admit I was wrong on that. Other than those 2 very basic facts, what else can be proven? How do we know that this is TES V? Everything in this thread relies on those 2 facts.

We know Bethesda Game Studios is working on TES:V because Pete Hines said they weren't done with the TES series, and they would continue on with TES:V. 5 years after OB's release, it's a safe bet that they are, and have been, working on TES:V.

[Chica Cheve]

We know Bethesda Game Studios is working on TES:V because Pete Hines said they weren't done with the TES series, and they would continue on with TES:V. 5 years after OB's release, it's a safe bet that they are, and have been, working on TES:V.

We don't really know that either. What about the MMO rumors? An MMO could take the place of TES V for another cycle.

[sas]

If you want my real opinion, Skyrim trademark is the MMO. In the court transcripts between interplay and Bethesda, development on the game has apparently been ongoing since late 2006, with “tens of millions of dollars” invested and “close to a hundred people” working on it. Bethesda tried to pull this info. When was the Skyrim name trademarked??? 2006. The comments last August, saying don't expect TES V for a while. It all really makes sense. This is the best opinion I can can form based on everything.

But you have to also consider the fact that they finished Oblivion in 2006, and trademarked the name in 2006. So it seems equally as likely that it's for TES V.

The fact is that there's only 1 TES related trademark owned by Zenimax and Bethesda, and it's Skyrim. So there's only one name, but two games. I'm pretty certain that it's for TES V, but whatever the trademark is for, it has to be announced before the end of July.

But they really have to be working on a new TES. There'd be no point in making the books if they weren't making TES V. And there'd be no point in making New Vegas if they were making Fallout 4.

[Jacob Phillips]

But you have to also consider the fact that they finished Oblivion in 2006, and trademarked the name in 2006. So it seems equally as likely that it's for TES V.

The fact is that there's only 1 TES related trademark owned by Zenimax and Bethesda, and it's Skyrim. So there's only one name, but two games. I'm pretty certain that it's for TES V, but whatever the trademark is for, it has to be announced before the end of July.

But they really have to be working on a new TES. There'd be no point in making the books if they weren't making TES V. And there'd be no point in making New Vegas if they were making Fallout 4.

Exactly, books wouldn't be released unless another game is on the horizon. I really hope it isn't an MMO, but I think that is a very big possibility.

[Mel E]

We don't really know that either. What about the MMO rumors? An MMO could take the place of TES V for another cycle.

Nope. Bethesda Game Studios has nothing to do with the MMO that Zenimax is supposedly releasing.
That's where you're wrong. We KNOW that Bethesda Game Studios is going to release TES:V. When? We don't know. But we know it'll happen, as fact.
But we don't know that Zenimax is even releasing an MMO. Is it likely? Yes, very. But we have no facts. So, you, being the "factually" driven person that you are, why would you even bring that up?
I'm done with this "argument", however, as there is no point to it. As far as I'm concerned, that "vision" guy you quoted isn't a Beth dev. End of story, and what he says means nothing until it's proven he is.

[Taylah Haines]

Nope. Bethesda Game Studios has nothing to do with the MMO that Zenimax is supposedly releasing.
That's where you're wrong. We KNOW that Bethesda Game Studios is going to release TES:V. When? We don't know. But we know it'll happen, as fact.
But we don't know that Zenimax is even releasing an MMO. Is it likely? Yes, very. But we have no facts. So, you, being the "factually" driven person that you are, why would you even bring that up?
I'm done with this "argument", however, as there is no point to it. As far as I'm concerned, that "vision" guy you quoted isn't a Beth dev. End of story, and what he says means nothing until it's proven he is.

OK, that's fine. But I think you missed the boat on the "factual" part. I was being facetious

[Tamika Jett]

But you have to also consider the fact that they finished Oblivion in 2006, and trademarked the name in 2006. So it seems equally as likely that it's for TES V.

The fact is that there's only 1 TES related trademark owned by Zenimax and Bethesda, and it's Skyrim. So there's only one name, but two games. I'm pretty certain that it's for TES V, but whatever the trademark is for, it has to be announced before the end of July.

But they really have to be working on a new TES. There'd be no point in making the books if they weren't making TES V. And there'd be no point in making New Vegas if they were making Fallout 4.

Pretty much this. It would be extremely illogical for Bethesda Game Studios to NOT be working on TES:V at this very moment. Given the trademark..current events, etc, it just makes sense for an announcement this year.
And they wouldn't be making an announcement, or making books that furthers the series, if they weren't making a new game.
Therefore, they are working on TES:V right now. Is it fact? No, but it's extremely logical for that to be the way it is.

[Rachel Hall]

Pretty much this. It would be extremely illogical for Bethesda Game Studios to NOT be working on TES:V at this very moment. Given the trademark..current events, etc, it just makes sense for an announcement this year.
And they wouldn't be making an announcement, or making books that furthers the series, if they weren't making a new game.
Therefore, they are working on TES:V right now. Is it fact? No, but it's extremely logical for that to be the way it is.

The problem is there are so many different "slips" and "comments" and "findings" from sources that conflict. I'd say the fact that the Slip:"200 years after the previous game" would most likely mean TES V over an MMO, but there are other things pushing for an MMO as well.

Do you agree that a second book would be released/announced before TES V is released/announced?

[Tamara Primo]

The problem is there are so many different "slips" and "comments" from sources with this. I'd say the fact that the Slip:"200 years after the previous game" would most likely mean TES V over an MMO, but there are other things pushing for an MMO as well.

Do you agree that a second book would be released/announced before TES V is released/announced?

Why would a MMO being set 200 years in the future make more sense than TESV being set 200 years in the future? I don't see how that makes you think it's the MMO.

As for the book, it will obviously be out before TES V, as no matter when TES V takes place, it will take place after the events of both books.

[Lucy]

Why would a MMO being set 200 years in the future make more sense than TESV being set 200 years in the future? I don't see how that makes you think it's the MMO.

As for the book, it will obviously be out before TES V, as no matter when TES V takes place, it will take place after the events of both books.

Yeah, I agree. I don't see the facts pointing towards the MMO either.
And definitely books, then the announcement of the game. It's such a simple concept, too. They come out with a game 5 years ago. 4 years later, they come out with a set of books to further the series. Then, a game is announced.
It's almost poetic how ingenious it is. :violin: