[Samantha Wood]

Skyrim is trademarked by Bethesda games... Zenimax is dealing with the MMO project, so it's two different projects... And outside of the domain name for elderscrollsonline.com, there is really no other proof an MMO is currently in the works for TES

Hello! Excuse me but you're wrong... Skyrim like Oblivion is trademarked by Zenimax Media Inc. not by Bethesda Softworks LLC. The only game trademarked by Bethesda is Fallout.

However:

1)Skyrim is registered in the same sections as Morrowind and Oblivion under the class 009 and 041:

Morrowind: http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=76223577
Oblivion: http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=76504923
Skyrim: http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=77017500

2) Most of the MMOs are registered under the class 041, but the description is different:

World of Warcraft: http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78083850
Dark Age of Camelot: http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78095779

For Skyrim, it is wrote "Providing online computer games" and for most of the MMOs, it is wrote "interactive online computer games" or "global computer network" .

3) And if we look at the international trademark classification (named "Classification de Nice"), for the class 041, it is wrote "Services de jeu proposés en ligne à partir d'un réseau informatique".

Link: http://www.inpi.fr/fr/marques/boite-a-outils-marque/classification-de-nice.html

So, this class is relative to the online services and a game with this class is not necessarily a MMO.

[Etta Hargrave]

2. We already have something that bridges the gap between Oblivion and TES V, they're these little things called the two books Bethesda is releasing. To turn those two books into DLC for Oblivion would not only be incredibly reckless, considering the events of the book are not something that can be made into simple DLC, but just wouldn't make sense at all really.

Just a thought, what if they were running into trouble? I haven't really read anything on these threads that admits the possibility that TES5 could have serious setbacks. Four years between releases is a long time by any standard, five or six years could be too long.

When i read what Bethesda promised with Oblivion, they obviously bit off more than they could chew. What if they've done the same again with TES5? The four years between games formula seems to me to be based on the assumption that things run relatively smoothly. If the release if TES5 was pushed back a few years, wouldn't OB expansions or some variant be a logical thing to release in the meantime?

[Nicola]

When i read what Bethesda promised with Oblivion, they obviously bit off more than they could chew. What if they've done the same again with TES5?

No of course not. They havent promiced anything, To this day they still deny any progress at all has been made on a new TES game.

... uh oh.

[Mari martnez Martinez]

They would bother publishing something, because as a company (that develops games) it actually makes sense to release a product - TES or otherwise - within a certain timeframe as opposed to not releasing anything for years. Furthermore, regarding your question as to why they should release something for the current generation of consoles: why not? Graphical prowess is not a valid argument here imo. By your logic they might as well resist releasing something in the early years of the next console generation simply because later titles might outshine theirs. It's probably more important than anything else to keep up some sort of economic momentum for their franchises. Personally, I'm pretty certain Bethesda's can create beautiful enthralling worlds regardless of any hardware generation and that it's not just due to the use of new technology.

Besides, don't we all want a new TES as soon as possible? Think positive

Haha, yeah we do, but really why would they make a game when 1 year later, a completely new console would come out, with obviously, much better hardware. If they decided to release it 1 year before the new console, then when that year ends, it would be an old console port, an old game as it would have to be ported onto the new console. It would seem obsolete (not in terms of gameplay, but there would be a clear difference, it would have dx11, instead of 9, etc.) in terms of what other games that would be released onto the new console, and I am guessing they wouldn't want that (longetivity). How often do you play your old xbox games? Or ps2 (even though ps2 rocked lol)?

PC is different, but the majority of the consumers would be console users.

Woops forgot to mention that that is if the new generation of consoles are released at all, or within the next 3 years. If they aren't then go ahead they won't bother with making it for the new generation...

[Kayleigh Williams]

How often do you play your old xbox games? Or ps2 (even though ps2 rocked lol)?

Quite often actually. And in regards to the next generation of consoles, I won't be buying a new console the day it comes out as I plan to keep playing on this generation for quite awhile. In fact, when the next generation of consoles is well under way I can guarantee you that I'll still be going back to play my original Xbox titles.

Also, given that the next generation is still quite a few years away I don't see Bethesda waiting around until then, especially due to all the work they've already put into their current game, whatever it is.

[Marquis T]

1 point that should be good news for those hoping for a release in the near future (bittersweet):

A couple of months ago a character designer for Bethesda Soft works hinted that they're next big game might not be DX 11, that they were struggling with a busy workload. Wouldn't that mean that development WAS started a while ago before DX 11 was on the table?

Vsions, Character Artist at Bethesda, hinted that he was working on the project:

VSIONS:
"Oh my God!! that is awesome. Finally some realtime displacement that is not just for general land mass deformation. I cant wait to work with these specs." (TES V prob isn't DX 11 if it has been in development )

Favelle
If Elder Scrolls 5 is using DX11, it is YOUR duty to inform the masses here in this very forum. Might I remind you, you're under oath....

VSIONS: NO COMMENT!!"

VSIONS: I think its a matter of devs having incentive to push these new features. Unfortunately none of the current consoles are using dx11 so it wont be until next gen console wise that you will see a big influx of titles pushing the envelope with dx 11. Devs for the most part are going to stay focused on their bread and butter and that is consoles. Thats not to say there wont be some great stuff coming to pc really pushing the envelope, its just gonna be a little more rare.

VSIONS: Not sure to be honest, Obsidian is working on that not us, and I havent really asked about New Vegas. I probably wouldnt count on it though. I am gonna push for it on future releases if possible, but its not easy getting people to try to many new things at one time with as much work as there is to be done as it is. Its really quite daunting all the things that need to be done, and while I cant say anything about our future games, I will say that we are always trying to bring something more and grander to the table with each title.


http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-room/99742-directx-11-finally-true-next-gen.html

ANY COMMENTS on this??

[Laura Tempel]

1 point that should be good news for those hoping for a release in the near future (bittersweet):

A couple of months ago a character designer for Bethesda Soft works hinted that they're next big game might not be DX 11, that they were struggling with a busy workload. Wouldn't that mean that development WAS started a while ago before DX 11 was on the table?

Vsions, Character Artist at Bethesda, hinted that he was working on the project:

VSIONS:
"Oh my God!! that is awesome. Finally some realtime displacement that is not just for general land mass deformation. I cant wait to work with these specs." (TES V prob isn't DX 11)

Favelle
If Elder Scrolls 5 is using DX11, it is YOUR duty to inform the masses here in this very forum. Might I remind you, you're under oath....

VSIONS: NO COMMENT!!"

VSIONS: I think its a matter of devs having incentive to push these new features. Unfortunately none of the current consoles are using dx11 so it wont be until next gen console wise that you will see a big influx of titles pushing the envelope with dx 11. Devs for the most part are going to stay focused on their bread and butter and that is consoles. Thats not to say there wont be some great stuff coming to pc really pushing the envelope, its just gonna be a little more rare.

VSIONS: Not sure to be honest, Obsidian is working on that not us, and I havent really asked about New Vegas. I probably wouldnt count on it though. I am gonna push for it on future releases if possible, but its not easy getting people to try to many new things at one time with as much work as there is to be done as it is. Its really quite daunting all the things that need to be done, and while I cant say anything about our future games, I will say that we are always trying to bring something more and grander to the table with each title.


http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-room/99742-directx-11-finally-true-next-gen.html

ANY COMMENTS on this??

yeah how do we know Vsions is legit. Why would he be allowed to go out and talk about a project that bethesda hasn't even announced exists. Personally I have a hard time buying this but a good find none-the-less

[Fiori Pra]

yeah how do we know Vsions is legit. Why would he be allowed to go out and talk about a project that bethesda hasn't even announced exists. Personally I have a hard time buying this but a good find none-the-less

Look at his posting history. HE is legit, and he is well known in that forum.

[ashleigh bryden]

Look at his posting history. HE is legit, and he is well known in that forum.

I have a pretty hard time believing that they would just "slip up" like that, honestly.

[darnell waddington]

I have a pretty hard time believing that they would just "slip up" like that, honestly.

What do you mean "slip up". I don't think anything that was said was really that revealing.

[Queen of Spades]

Devs don't "discuss" tes:V. It hasn't ever happened, and why would someone like that just randomly even say "no comment!!"? Obviously that is saying something. Seems pretty bogus to me.

[christelle047]

A couple of months ago a character designer for Bethesda Soft works hinted that they're next big game might not be DX 11, that they were struggling with a busy workload. Wouldn't that mean that development WAS started a while ago before DX 11 was on the table?

We can't go assuming things based on what some guy says. We don't know if he's legit, he may appear to be, but anyone can pretend to be anything on the internet.

[R.I.P]

We can't go assuming things based on what some guy says. We don't know if he's legit, he may appear to be, but anyone can pretend to be anything on the internet.

Nothing in this thread or any other Speculation thread can be assumed. It is ALL speculation.

[Evaa]

We can't go assuming things based on what some guy says. We don't know if he's legit, he may appear to be, but anyone can pretend to be anything on the internet.

Exactly my point. I've never known a Bethesda Dev to just "slip up" and confirm or deny something about at title that hasn't even been released. If that IS a dev, he's really, really stupid.

[Catherine N]

Exactly my point. I've never known a Bethesda Dev to just "slip up" and confirm or deny something about at title that hasn't even been released. If that IS a dev, he's really, really stupid.

What did he confirm/deny about any title in specific???

Nothing. A healthy dose of skepticism is great, but when you start to alter the truth, that is too much. The only reference to TES V was "no comment"

[remi lasisi]

It's been quite a while now that Bethesda confirmed they are working hard on their next big game but they are just not ready to announce it and therefore not allowed to say what this game is. So that particular employee didn't go out of line simply by saying that they are working on something especially since when he was asked about TES V in specific he made no comment. That was a good find but I don't think that we learned something we didn't already know. Of course the next big game by Bethesda will be released for the current generation of consoles. The next Xbox and PS are not expected to hit the market before 2013/14 at the earliest. With other developers like Blizzard and Bioware announcing one project after the other for the next few years I can't really see Bethesda waiting for the next generation of consoles.

[Jonny]

It's been quite a while now that Bethesda confirmed they are working hard on their next big game but they are just not ready to announce it and therefore not allowed to say what this game is. So that particular employee didn't go out of line simply by saying that they are working on something especially since when he was asked about TES V in specific he made no comment. That was a good find but I don't think that we learned something we didn't already know. Of course the next big game by Bethesda will be released for the current generation of consoles. The next Xbox and PS are not expected to hit the market before 2013/14 at the earliest. With other developers like Blizzard and Bioware announcing one project after the other for the next few years I can't really see Bethesda waiting for the next generation of consoles.

+1

It just adds to the speculation

[Amanda Furtado]

What did he confirm/deny about any title in specific???

Nothing. A healthy dose of skepticism is great, bu when you start to alter the truth, that is too much. Theo only reference to TES V was "no comment"

The fact that he said "no comment" denotes he was confirming or denying something.
If someone says "are you dating samantha?" and you say "no comment!!!!" obviously that means you have information on the subject and are extremely reluctant to say what you know. A dev does not do that. I've NEVER seen a dev reply to something like that.

[Bek Rideout]

What the hell are you talking about? The fact that he said "no comment" denotes he was confirming or denying something.
If someone says "are you dating samantha?" and you say "no comment!!!!" obviously that means you have information on the subject and are extremely reluctant to say what you know. A dev does not do that. I've NEVER seen a dev reply to something like that.

Well, did he deny TES V? Did he confirm TES V? He didn't do anything. Its an internet forum, and it had an emoticon next to it. Look at the next posts that he made. He states that he can't talk about future games.

[chloe hampson]

What the hell are you talking about? The fact that he said "no comment" denotes he was confirming or denying something.
If someone says "are you dating samantha?" and you say "no comment!!!!" obviously that means you have information on the subject and are extremely reluctant to say what you know. A dev does not do that. I've NEVER seen a dev reply to something like that.

Here is his website. he is legit

http://pixelrapture.com/

http://www.linkedin.com/in/dennismejillones

http://www.youtube.com/user/Vsions

He DOES work for Bethesda


Dennis Mejillones’s Experience

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Owner
Pixel Rapture

(Entertainment industry)

2009 — Present (1 year )

Providing freelance services
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Character Artist
Bethesda Softworks

(Privately Held; Computer Games industry)

November 2009 — Present (6 months)

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Art Lead
Tronic Studio

(Entertainment industry)

September 2007 — March 2009 (1 year 7 months)

Delivered high quality 3D artwork and animation for clients through strong collaboration with the studio director and project leads.

Provided technical and artistic oversight and quality control of junior artists and freelancers as well as technical support and problem solving.

Provided conceptual development for projects and or elements within a project when necessary.
*
Art Lead
Shadows in Darkness

(Privately Held; Animation industry)

2002 — 2007 (5 years )

Delivered high quality 3D assets, textures and animations for platforms such as Playstation 3, Xbox 360, Wii, Playstation 2 and Playstation Portable.

Provided technical and artistic oversight and quality control of junior artists and freelancers as well as technical support and problem solving.

Provided conceptual development for projects and or elements within a project when necessary.
Contributed to the pipeline development currently used at Shadows In Darkness.

Worked closely with art directors and art leads from client studios as well as local art leads to come up with solutions and produce high quality and effective assets and problem solving.
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3D Artist
NYU Center For Advanced Technology

(Educational Institution; Higher Education industry)

August 1995 — September 2000 (5 years 2 months)

Provided 3d visualizations for research projects as well as 3d characters and environments for Cafe Royal and SIGGRAPH 96 Digital Bayou installation "Botanica Virtual."

Provided technical and artistic assistance to students, interns and other center staff members.

So he's a stupid dev in your opinion :wink_smile:

[BrEezy Baby]

What the hell is it you're trying to say anyway? He said NOTHING about TES V, so what does it matter here? If he is legit, he didn't even say anything that would help us speculate on TES V.

What do you mean "slip up". I don't think anything that was said was really that revealing.

So why the hell did you even post it? Hey, I can do that too:

Too many good ones to choose between. I guess I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire, since it was played at my wedding. It's weird hearing it without that radio crackle at the start

I also really dig Wonderful Guy.

He didn't say anything about TES V, SO HE MUST BE HIDING SOMETHING!!!!1!!11!!!!!

:facepalm:

[matt oneil]

What the hell is it you're trying to say anyway? He said NOTHING about TES V, so what does it matter here? If he is legit, he didn't even say anything that would help us speculate on TES V.



So why the hell did you even post it? Hey, I can do that too:



He didn't say anything about TES V, SO HE MUST BE HIDING SOMETHING!!!!1!!11!!!!!

:facepalm:

Jesus, sorry. I posted a legit Bethesda developer's comment about unnamed future/in development projects, and you get freaked out. Its gonna be alright :unsure:

The comments relate to whether or not Bethesda is toying with DX 11, whether they're project in development will be released on this current gen or not.

I think we can more confidentially speculate from his comments that:
1. Bethesda's next "Big Unannounced Game" WILL be released during the current console generation and that would push for a release fairly soon (Whatever game is currently in the pipelines, Skyrim trademark, etc...),

2. It looks like from these comments that Bethesda has NOT been using DX 11, which would again push for a release fairly soon, as that means development DID start years ago.

These comments do push for a release, prob within 2 years, of whatever their "Big Title" is, which is hopefully TES V. This would also suggest a possible announcement at E3 this year. I think these comments give much more insight then hoping that a random Game Informer issue will announce TES V, with only loose reasoning given

Hopefully you won't struggle interpreting any future speculation

[sarah simon-rogaume]

Jesus, sorry. I posted a legit Bethesda developer's comment about unnamed future/in development projects, and you get freaked out. Its gonna be alright :unsure:

The comments relate to whether or not Bethesda is toying with DX 11, whether they're project in development will be released on this current gen or not.

I think we can more confidentially speculate from his comments that:
1. Bethesda's next "Big Unannounced Game" WILL be released during the current console generation and that would push for a release fairly soon (Whatever game is currently in the pipelines, Skyrim trademark, etc...),

2. It looks like from these comments that Bethesda has NOT been using DX 11, which would again push for a release fairly soon, as that means development DID start years ago.

These comments do push for a release, prob within 2 years, of whatever their "Big Title" is, which is hopefully TES V. This would also suggest a possible announcement at E3 this year. I think these comments give much more insight then hoping that a random Game Informer issue will announce TES V, with only loose reasoning given

Hopefully you won't struggle interpreting any future speculation

wrong infact the opposite he said they won't be using dx11 at all cause they are focusing on the console. Meaning they could have started work last week but still won't use dx11.

[cassy]

Well, did he deny TES V? Did he confirm TES V? He didn't do anything. Its an internet forum, and it had an emoticon next to it. Look at the next posts that he made. He states that he can't talk about future games.

No, he didn't say anything specific one way or the the other, but I find this comment by him interesting. It's obvious they aren't working on a Fallout game, we all know that. So, if they aren't working on Fallout. I think it's pretty obvious what they are working on. The comment also suggests an existing IP. It is cleverly worded though. Still, when someone starts talking about lore, I think it's obvious they are refering to TES:

The thing I can say is that there is a huge lore behing our own IP's and many areas within that lore that have yet to be explored that I think would be very exciting for gamers to explore some day. You guys did however get a scifi game pretty much as vast as Oblivion in Fallout 3.

[I’m my own]

wrong infact the opposite he said they won't be using dx11 at all cause they are focusing on the console. Meaning they could have started work last week but still won't use dx11.

The point is that the game WILL be released this console generation, which would call for a release within 2-3 years, but you're right, they prob wouldn't be using DX 11 today either. But we know that Bethesda is working on a big project, so that big project will not be DX 11, which is kind of disappointing.