Official TES V Speculation Thread Number 28

Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:16 pm

Just saw a teaser trailer for Call of Duty Black Ops. Obviously, a much different game. But 4 years is too long long a development cycle for any game series as profitable as TES.

The thing is, Morrowind was so amazing, I played it up until the final 3 months of Oblivion's release, at which point the graphics and gameplay were dated, the quests were all familiar, the thought of playing the new game ruined enjoying the old, and I just busied myself in other ways. Now, I'm playing it again waiting for TES V, because I lost interest in Oblivion in literally 1/10 of the time.

I would accept a game like Oblivion if a new "episode" were released every two years, with a moderately updated graphics, tweaked gameplay, and a few new story lines/quests.

Oblivion had a million minor flaws. Some of them were reactions to critique aimed at Morrowind, so I can't blame the developers...unless they fail to see the reactions are akin to Coke Classic and New Coke. So many people champion the graphics and physics as astounding improvements...but those are not innovations, simply the progression of technology.

The only things somewhat improved was the combat gameplay, the stealth gameplay, and in some cases the mixture of those with magick, (firing a spell while holding a sword) There was more voiced dialogue. BUT we lost total amount of dialogue, number of factions, number of dungeons, number of skills, number of weapons, number of armors, number of spells, and had enemies level with us, making level advancement moot or in fact, detrimental. We got to ride horses...but couldn't fight from them. We got to buy houses. Some of the "improvements" were so simple, and often easily added by modders that Bethesda cannot laud themselves, but must consider them a necessary inclusion.


Not to be kind of mean, but this is the Speculation thread, there is a different thread for ideas and suggestions.
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Jessie Rae Brouillette
 
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Post » Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:40 am

Not to be kind of mean, but this is the Speculation thread, there is a different thread for ideas and suggestions.


I kind of rambled, but I wasn't suggesting anything...other than that Bethesda should release this game sooner...which is kind of related to the speculation of when it would come out? Everything I rambled about was just sort of ideas of why taking so long is a bad idea. Basically, you make bigger mistakes and then it takes longer to correct them.
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:53 pm

I kind of rambled, but I wasn't suggesting anything...other than that Bethesda should release this game sooner...which is kind of related to the speculation of when it would come out? Everything I rambled about was just sort of ideas of why taking so long is a bad idea. Basically, you make bigger mistakes and then it takes longer to correct them.

Black Ops is just a part of the CoD franchise two-year turn-around. Treyarch release a CoD game one year, and Infiity Ward release a CoD game the next year. They take it in turns. Or did.

Industry politics aside, the point is that each CoD game has two years to be developed, and when you compare the amount of depth in a CoD game to a TES game... well it's easy to see why Bethesda take longer. Factor Fallout 3 into that development time and it's perfectly understandable.

I really want another TES game too, but E3 is right around the corner! If we don't hear about it there i'll be amazed. In fact I just rewatched E3 2005's Oblivion videos and realized THAT is the game I want. Soft shadows on everything, a city called Sutch on the world map, and some sort of new technology called... Radiant AI? You guys ever heard of that? All I saw was people talking about mudcrabs in my game.
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Post » Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:48 am

Personally, I have a good feeling that the Game Informer issue being revealed this month will be for TES V. Mostly because Fallout 3's cover was revealed the month before E3 started, and it was shown at that E3. And this year's E3 starts next month, so it would make sense to reveal it this month. That's just my opinion anyway.
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Post » Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:02 am

Personally, I have a good feeling that the Game Informer issue being revealed this month will be for TES V. Mostly because Fallout 3's cover was revealed the month before E3 started, and it was shown at that E3. And this year's E3 starts next month, so it would make sense to reveal it this month. That's just my opinion anyway.

If it truly is this month, when will we know for sure?
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:06 pm

When is the game informer issue being released, Antibody?
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:55 pm

When is the game informer issue being released, Antibody?



The cover is revealed every month around the 5th-12th on their website. Of course if the cover really is for TES V we'll all find out about the announcement before the cover is revealed.
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:02 pm


Industry politics aside, the point is that each CoD game has two years to be developed, and when you compare the amount of depth in a CoD game to a TES game... well it's easy to see why Bethesda take longer. Factor Fallout 3 into that development time and it's perfectly understandable.

I really want another TES game too, but E3 is right around the corner! If we don't hear about it there i'll be amazed. In fact I just rewatched E3 2005's Oblivion videos and realized THAT is the game I want. Soft shadows on everything, a city called Sutch on the world map, and some sort of new technology called... Radiant AI? You guys ever heard of that? All I saw was people talking about mudcrabs in my game.


I mean, Fable came out right before Oblivion, and while it's not nearly as expansive, it is at least midway between something like Oblivion and something like CoD. And we already have an announcement for Fable 3. So, 3 games for one fantasy series in the place of 1 for another? I would accept that a lot more readily if Oblivion WAS the game that was shown at E3 2005. We also have announcements for the second installment of Dragon Age, and MOST importantly, Fallout: New Vegas. I know, different developer, but STILL.

BUT you are right about Fallout somewhat expanding the timeframe, Antibody did an excellent timeline showing how Fallout fit right into the regular TES development cycle. The only thing I like about that is that trying a new genre gives you perspectives on improvments for an older series. However, even if TES V was announced tomorrow, it would still be another year before it came out. Which means, all those games announced already will be released, and their sequels will be announced. Unless Bethesda changes their announcement/release strategy and does an announcement 3-6 months before release rather than 12-14. Which-would-beee-Kill-errrrrr.

On another note, here is a reason Bethesda should have let Obsidian do more work for Fallout 3 and focused on TES V, as well as why they should not have "mainstreamed" Oblivion. Here is what one fan had to say on a different website:

"i thought they just called it fallout 3 =/
didn't know there were other ones
And if morons are going to ask why the (eff)
Its because final fantasy started at 7."
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:42 pm

The time between Daggerfall And Morrowind was longer than 4 years though.....anyhow I like antibody's idea . It think it will be before or after E3.
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:28 pm

It think it will be before or after E3.


I think we can safely assume that is guaranteed no matter what! :P
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:33 pm

I think we can safely assume that is guaranteed no matter what! :P

I read that and was just like, "Um... um... lolwut?"

On another note #10 (woot 10): Like I said a while back (three or four threads), the GameInformer magazine cover has the highest chance of being announced on the 8th or 9th of May. Let's hope it's earlier, but it probably won't happen.
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:11 pm

The time between Daggerfall And Morrowind was longer than 4 years though.....anyhow I like antibody's idea . It think it will be before or after E3.


The Bethesda team then is extremely different then the Bethesda team now. But who knows what will happen..
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:56 pm

The time between Daggerfall And Morrowind was longer than 4 years though.....anyhow I like antibody's idea . It think it will be before or after E3.

However, that time was spent entirely upon Redgaurd and Battlespire, which nearly totally bankrupt Bethesda.

Its pretty clear they've got to stick to their guns. Fallout, of course, being one of their new shiny ones, but TES, obviously, remains the flagship.
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:02 pm

Oh really? Well your "sneaking suspicion" is wrong. Thanks for being a smart ass.

Well, I knew it was wrong, but no problem. :goodjob:

Personally, I have a good feeling that the Game Informer issue being revealed this month will be for TES V. Mostly because Fallout 3's cover was revealed the month before E3 started, and it was shown at that E3. And this year's E3 starts next month, so it would make sense to reveal it this month. That's just my opinion anyway.

Wow, it's been a year already! It seems like a couple of months ago many of us were positive it would be shown at E3 2009. Anyway, this year it makes more sense, with the trademark and the other possible signs. But I can't get myself to hope for it, yet.
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Post » Fri Aug 06, 2010 5:23 am

We will just have to wait and see.
Would be awesome if this months G.I. was TES.
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:32 pm

We will just have to wait and see.
Would be awesome if this months G.I. was TES.


It wont be, cause bethesda hasnt made the annoncement.

gotta remember the golden rule about the G.I. , bethesda must annonce before the cover is revealled.
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Post » Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:23 am

Personally, I have a good feeling that the Game Informer issue being revealed this month will be for TES V. Mostly because Fallout 3's cover was revealed the month before E3 started, and it was shown at that E3. And this year's E3 starts next month, so it would make sense to reveal it this month. That's just my opinion anyway.


Like I said before, I reckon it will not be until next year it will be announced. You are being way too optimistic...
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:30 pm

Like I said before, I reckon it will not be until next year it will be announced. You are being way too optimistic...

Naw, you're just being way too pessimistic. Being that the trademark for Skyrim expires in July (and it would be pretty dumb to buy and renew a trademark you didn't intend to use JUST to mess with fans), the books are setting the scene for the future of TES, and the other reasons other people have more articulately posted.
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:27 pm

Like I said before, I reckon it will not be until next year it will be announced. You are being way too optimistic...


No, you're being far too pessimistic. Have you even been following this thread? Are you aware of the trademark expiring, and how if they don't announce it before it expires, they'll have to wait up to a year to announce it as they get their new trademark? Thinking they're going to announce it soon isn't optimism, it's just thinking logically.
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:47 pm

The Keys surrounding the idea of it's announcement soon are...

-*New* software testers needed at Bethesda found on their career page.

-Trademark Expiration

-4 year TES rule (which will likely be broken, unless a surprise drop happens this year... which it won't)

-E3 coming up with a big game due out in about 4-6 months (not gamesas dev'd) without a known(announced) in-house development on-deck yet.

-Online store, mostly for Oblivion content, rebooted.

-Paul Oughton's TES 5 tease... http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171013 (two years old, but still something.)

if anyone can think of another, i'll update it, or if they see a flaw here... i'll update it :foodndrink:
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:45 pm

The waiting for any scraps of info is too much....

Anyway, to help pass the time, here is a vid. If you havnt seen it, have a laugh, if you have seen it, laugh again. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kri4wsBImfU


*scratches head*

Then gamesas opens an office in, Frankfurt?

Anyway, I've worked in the corporate world for some time now, and they do not follow any rules. Speculation is like throwing peanuts to an elephant; It's appreciated, but does not satisfy much.
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:15 pm

The Keys surrounding the idea of it's announcement soon are...

-*New* software testers needed at Bethesda found on their career page.

-Trademark Expiration

-4 year TES rule (which will likely be broken, unless a surprise drop happens this year... which it won't)

-E3 coming up with a big game due out in about 4-6 months (not gamesas dev'd) without a known(announced) in-house development on-deck yet.

-Online store, mostly for Oblivion content, rebooted.

Also Paul Oughton said that Bethesda had pencilled in Elder Scrolls 5 for 2010
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:50 pm

Heard there wasn't going to be a TES V, well for sometime anyway at least...arn't they on with another game?
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:25 pm

Heard there wasn't going to be a TES V, well for sometime anyway at least...arn't they on with another game?



you might be thinking of FO:New Vegas... which is being developed by Obsidian, not Bethesda...

It is believed Bethesda is working on a new game... which would make TES:5 the most likely outside of a new IP
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Post » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:50 pm

ahh ok, well i might have read outdated info, it's hard to find new reliable sources... thats if there is any out there...
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