[FABIAN RUIZ]

nah, there is no way they will be showing off much TES related at E3, the annoncement yes, but actualy in-depth content to show of the game....i doubt it, too early.

Not in-depth to us, but showing gameplay behind closed doors, in which the journalists who saw it will write on it for the public.

[Victoria Vasileva]

Not in-depth to us, but showing gameplay behind closed doors, in which the journalists who saw it will write on it for the public.

They just havent had enough time to make anything subtantial though, remember full production (though we can assume semi production started when Fallout 3 was released) only started end of last year. I suppose the new engine might have been finished last year....but i just dont see it as having enough to be show off-able to anyone.

[Karine laverre]

They just havent had enough time to make anything subtantial though, remember full production (though we can assume semi production started when Fallout 3 was released) only started end of last year. I suppose the new engine might have been finished last year....but i just dont see it as having enough to be show off-able to anyone.

This is true, but that trademark has to be used by August, and like Antibody pointed out: why invest the time and money to keep renewing it, as recently as January, if they don't plan to use it for another year? Perhaps we'll only get a few screens and a CG trailer instead of a gameplay video and demonstration this time.

Again, after Pete's comments on fears of other big announcements at E3 drowning out a Bethesda announcement, and his company's desire to see QuakeCon become a larger gaming convention, an August or September GI issue announcement with a QuakeCon presentation could well be on the cards here.

[Amanda Furtado]

This is true, but that trademark has to be used by August, and like Antibody pointed out: why invest the time and money to keep renewing it, as recently as January, if they don't plan to use it for another year? Perhaps we'll only get a few screens and a CG trailer instead of a gameplay video and demonstration this time.

Again, after Pete's comments on fears of other big announcements at E3 drowning out a Bethesda announcement, and his company's desire to see QuakeCon become a larger gaming convention, an August or September GI issue announcement with a QuakeCon presentation could well be on the cards here.

Well what sort of 'content' did they show off at the first E3 with Oblivion?, i know the second one (4 months before release) had just heaps and heaps of stuff, but the first would have been just a Trailer and some picutres.

[Fanny Rouyé]

Well what sort of 'content' did they show off at the first E3 with Oblivion?, i know the second one (4 months before release) had just heaps and heaps of stuff, but the first would have been just a Trailer and some picutres.

It was trailer that lasted a minute or so with short 5-8 second flashes of the game in action with some scenic shots and whatnot.

[Silvia Gil]

It was trailer that lasted a minute or so with short 5-8 second flashes of the game in action with some scenic shots and whatnot.

Yes indeedy. This was the trailer shown to the public during Micro$oft's presentation: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/xbox-press-elder-scrolls/5874.

Bethesda also had a 'demo' of the game on show in a separate room, played by the devs every hour, presumably only to press members. Though some of the guys they interviewed afterwards for feedback looked like members of the public, so i'm not sure.

[Fam Mughal]

Well what sort of 'content' did they show off at the first E3 with Oblivion?, i know the second one (4 months before release) had just heaps and heaps of stuff, but the first would have been just a Trailer and some picutres.

4 months before release??? Was there an E3 I missed somewhere?? Didn't Oblivion come out 3/20... so they had an E3 in December... whoa.

So here are the dates as they happened:

10/24/2004 TESIV In Development announcement (on website)
5/18/2005 E3 2005, trailer with gameplay footage (Microsoft presentation)
3/20/2006 TESIV: Oblivion Release Date

[Robert Bindley]

My completely ignorant prediction, is that TESV will be a launch title for the next-generation consoles (PS4 and XBox...720?). And hopefully ported to Windows 8 with DirectX 12.

I Doubt it, Because I believe that the next gen consoles will come out around post 2012. Because what about the PlayStation wand and natal? They still need to release those and a library of games for them. Also what about the games that are planned for release next year, I.e. Gears of war 3, it's on the current gen consoles. Thats what I think. Hopefully they announce it soon within a couple months. This anticipation is killing me.

[Ashley Tamen]

All this flurry activity in recent days is just a product of people's wishful yearnings for an announcement around E3. I'm sorry folks, but I'm just not buying it.

There is one tidbit from Pete's recent interview that may be of promise. His response to the prospect of an E3 announcement, more than providing any insight to the E3 announcement debate, is more telling that some announcement is indeed nigh.

"So I think it still remains to be seen, but I wouldn't expect any big announcements from us at E3, although it is only April and it's two months away. You never really know. Last year I thought for sure we were going to announce the id acquisition right around then and it wasn't announced till afterwards. I guess you never know for sure. But it's not probably in our plans, though."

This strongly indicates to me that there is indeed something to announce but that the exact unveiling remains to be seen. As someone else previously pointed out, this is either the response of an honest Pete or an evil Pete. He was either being honestly ignorant or intentionally coy and misleading. I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt, but you can make your own discernment.

[evelina c]

All this flurry activity in recent days is just a product of people's wishful yearnings for an announcement around E3. I'm sorry folks, but I'm just not buying it.

There is one tidbit from Pete's recent interview that may be of promise. His response to the prospect of an E3 announcement, more than providing any insight to the E3 announcement debate, is more telling that some announcement is indeed nigh.

"So I think it still remains to be seen, but I wouldn't expect any big announcements from us at E3, although it is only April and it's two months away. You never really know. Last year I thought for sure we were going to announce the id acquisition right around then and it wasn't announced till afterwards. I guess you never know for sure. But it's not probably in our plans, though."

This strongly indicates to me that there is indeed something to announce but that the exact unveiling remains to be seen. As someone else previously pointed out, this is either the response of an honest Pete or an evil Pete. He was either being honestly ignorant or intentionally coy and misleading. I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt, but you can make your own discernment.

Sounds reasonable.

[katie TWAVA]

All this flurry activity in recent days is just a product of people's wishful yearnings for an announcement around E3. I'm sorry folks, but I'm just not buying it.

Recent days? This thread is nonstop speculative madness. "I found a penny today! IT'S A SIGN!"

[Jhenna lee Lizama]

Not that I remember all their game announcements, but Bethesda probably wouldn't release info more than eight or ten months before the game is released. They always shoot for the fall release to hit the Christmas season sales, so if we don't hear about it at E3, I kinda doubt they release it this year. My guess if it doesn't happen soon is that we hear about it with a teaser in March of 2011.

Then whenever this was:
http://www.elderscrolls.com/codex/team_rpgnextgen.htm

[Benjamin Holz]

Hey everybody.

Jeremy Soule is the guy who made the excellent soundtracks for the two most recent Elder Scrolls games. Love his work. He also has done work for Guild Wars, Supreme Commander, and others.

I've been following Jeremy Soule on Twitter (his login was Partitur, and it was definitely him) for the last three months, give or take. He hasn't posted much, but he did make two relatively recent posts, and when I went to show them to my brother this evening I couldn't find them. I couldn't find him on my 'followed' list, so I searched for his account and it has been disappeared. The account no longer exists.

I searched him and out and added him because, craftily, I suspected that his twitter account might be a potential leak source - I mean, he does a lot of game scores, but other than Guild Wars, his most well known work has been Morrowind and Oblivion.

Anyhoo, at the end of March, if I recall correctly, he posted something to the effect of 'I'm going to be pretty silent for a while, working on something big' (a paraphrase only, sadly I can't seem to find a cached copy or anything).

And after that, silence. Until (IIRC) last week sometime, when he posted something very close to 'I am listen to the music of the forest' (not a quote, again).

Could this be TESV related? Maybe.... I mean, the guy does a lot of soundtrack work, so when he said he was working on something big, it could be any game, or even a movie. But, if gamesas is working on TES5 now, I would bet (and hope) that they would get Mr. Soule to create the music again. Does the post about 'the music of the forest' mean anything? Heck if I know; personally I associate his soundtrack work with exploring the outside world, some of it is on my 'dog walking' playlist.

But, why did his account get removed so quickly after posting it? Evidence of important work on a secret project? Maybe he just decided that Twitter was crap and he no longer wanted to be on it? Could be anything.

Could be something -- and that is why I'm sharing it with you.

File this under grasping at straws for TES5 information, but the fact that his account has been axed is weird.

EDIT:
Forced google cache to show his page before as it was before, but the last message about the 'music of the forest' isn't in the cached copy - also, I forgot some unrelated message about 'really listening to music' but that doesn't seem relevent to the issue at hand.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:twitter.com/partitur

[Heather Dawson]

Yes, grasping at straws.

There will be a TESV sometime in the next 2-4 years. I'm pretty sure about that. And they are likely to use his excellent talent for it. So who knows.

[Adrian Powers]

Thanks for sharing. Even if these are merely straws we're grasping at they are tantalizingly exciting. Soule is a wonderful composer that seems to capture the magic of each game in his soundtracks.

[Bonnie Clyde]

Don't be surprised if the topic creator mysteriously disappears. ;P
'course, even if it is grasping at straws, I think the straws are bendy enough to reach the right drink.

I mean, the only other time you see someone disappear so quickly is with that guy Candleja-

[john page]

Geez, people are desperate. At any rate, Bethesda wouldn't have any authority over Twitter accounts, and Soule is a popular composer who works on many games and is probably almost always busy with one or another in development.

[kasia]

For Oblivion they didn't have the music ready by E3, so I doubt it's for TESV.

[Vicki Blondie]

Hey guys, just wanted to copy this from another topcic, this info should have been posted here in the first place tough.
This is something Stahlbrand wrote.( if i got the spelling wright)

Hey everybody.

Jeremy Soule is the guy who made the excellent soundtracks for the two most recent Elder Scrolls games. Love his work. He also has done work for Guild Wars, Supreme Commander, and others.

I've been following Jeremy Soule on Twitter (his login was Partitur, and it was definitely him) for the last three months, give or take. He hasn't posted much, but he did make two relatively recent posts, and when I went to show them to my brother this evening I couldn't find them. I couldn't find him on my 'followed' list, so I searched for his account and it has been disappeared. The account no longer exists.

I searched him and out and added him because, craftily, I suspected that his twitter account might be a potential leak source - I mean, he does a lot of game scores, but other than Guild Wars, his most well known work has been Morrowind and Oblivion.

Anyhoo, at the end of March, if I recall correctly, he posted something to the effect of 'I'm going to be pretty silent for a while, working on something big' (a paraphrase only, sadly I can't seem to find a cached copy or anything).

And after that, silence. Until (IIRC) last week sometime, when he posted something very close to 'I am listen to the music of the forest' (not a quote, again).

Could this be TESV related? Maybe.... I mean, the guy does a lot of soundtrack work, so when he said he was working on something big, it could be any game, or even a movie. But, if gamesas is working on TES5 now, I would bet (and hope) that they would get Mr. Soule to create the music again. Does the post about 'the music of the forest' mean anything? Heck if I know; personally I associate his soundtrack work with exploring the outside world, some of it is on my 'dog walking' playlist.

But, why did his account get removed so quickly after posting it? Evidence of important work on a secret project? Maybe he just decided that Twitter was crap and he no longer wanted to be on it? Could be anything.

Could be something -- and that is why I'm sharing it with you.

File this under grasping at straws for TES5 information, but the fact that his account has been axed is weird.

EDIT:
Forced google cache to show his page before as it was before, but the last message about the 'music of the forest' isn't in the cached copy - also, I forgot some unrelated message about 'really listening to music' but that doesn't seem relevent to the issue at hand.
http://webcache.goog...er.com/partitur


Draw your own conclusions from what he wrote, i honestly dont know, but i do got a feeling that someone was a little frustrated with this guy tweets, and wanted him to withdraw his tweets.

[Catharine Krupinski]

Most likely Soule clicked the "disable my account" link on his Twitter settings page.

I couldn't guess why he would do that, seeing how he infrequently, but regularly used it.

But, its gone now, and it does seem a little odd, and he was working on something.

Safely in the 'grasping at straws' folder, but just you watch, I bet he does already have, or will eventually get the job for the next ES game.

[Anthony Santillan]

For Oblivion they didn't have the music ready by E3, so I doubt it's for TESV.

Even if it's not ready, he could still be working on it.

[Project]

Even if it's not ready, he could still be working on it.

True. It depends how far along the game is.

[Paula Rose]

true, but even then they could also begin with the music at the end of the game, when its all finished and they only need to polish it a bit.

[Matt Gammond]

4 months before release??? Was there an E3 I missed somewhere?? Didn't Oblivion come out 3/20... so they had an E3 in December... whoa.

So here are the dates as they happened:

10/24/2004 TESIV In Development announcement (on website)
5/18/2005 E3 2005, trailer with gameplay footage (Microsoft presentation)
3/20/2006 TESIV: Oblivion Release Date

yep sorry, i got my dates way wrong....

I was under the impresssion they had 2 E3 events with oblivion.....maybe Im thinking of one with oblivion, and one with SI? i dunno....

[trisha punch]

I doubt they won't announce it until next year (if it is being worked on). Seriously, if they have been working on it, it would only be about a year (not all of it full time/team, or even none of it full-time/team). I guess that is a long time, but in production, really, I guess they don't have much too show.

Next year (Or very late this year) seems more plausible. Otherwise it would be like what SE did. FFXII was released 3 years after announcement....

My other theory is that they would wait until the next gen of consoles. Rumors have stated the next gen would be around 2013 or 2014... Why would they release it in 2012 and then within a year, (because of restrictions of the old consoles) have an outdated game (or less than what it could have been technology wise)?

But this is only if there will be a new generation of consoles (within the near future).