[Barbequtie]

I doubt they won't announce it until next year (if it is being worked on). Seriously, if they have been working on it, it would only be about a year (not all of it full time/team, or even none of it full-time/team). I guess that is a long time, but in production, really, I guess they don't have much too show.

Next year (Or very late this year) seems more plausible. Otherwise it would be like what SE did. FFXII was released 3 years after announcement....

My other theory is that they would wait until the next gen of consoles. Rumors have stated the next gen would be around 2013 or 2014... Why would they release it in 2012 and then within a year, (because of restrictions of the old consoles) have an outdated game (or less than what it could have been technology wise)?

But this is only if there will be a new generation of consoles (within the near future).

You guys drive me crazy sometimes...

First off, October will make it two years since when we know for a fact they started focusing on their next game. That doesn't mean they didn't start earlier, mind you, but we just don't have any solid proof of that. But two years is plenty of time to get to a point where they can show off the game, even if it's only a few screenshots. And don't forget, they don't have to show us anything at all until they're ready. An announcement does not equal a ton of content being released. We didn't even get the first screenshots of New Vegas until nearly a year after it was announced. Secondly, thinking that they'll wait for the next console generation that isn't even confirmed yet is silly. "Why would they release it in 2012"... did you really ask that? Do you think the year before the release of a new console will be completely devoid of any new videogames because every developer wants to "hold out" for the new generation? Come on...

[Claudia Cook]

When they revealed Oblivion, they had Patrick Stewart locked in and speaking on the trailer. We need to make a list of famous actors who might be wrangled for TES 5 and see if they have gone to recording studios for a non-musical purpose.

Bethesda seems to like people who have worked in the Fantasy/Science Fiction genres before; Star Trek, Lord of the Rings, Superman. That narrows it a little. Look for people from sci fi and fantasy shows. Kevin Sorbo is probably around the top of the list.

[Kara Payne]

I'm going to toss this hypothetical question for everyone (we're speculating so we might as well look at every possibility) lets say that Beth really were using Skyrim is a fraud (I understand how unlikely it is and how much money they put into it, and how everything says that what i'm saying is complete BS, but bear with me) Lets say that they let it expire and come next May we have this new trademark. Lets also say that quakecon was where TES V is announced (next year) and that they begin expanding n information already given by the next major gaming conference.

Now does this sound absurdly impossible without even a minuscule chance of happening, or is there an actual chance of this happening?

[Mr. Allen]

I'm going to toss this hypothetical question for everyone (we're speculating so we might as well look at every possibility) lets say that Beth really were using Skyrim is a fraud (I understand how unlikely it is and how much money they put into it, and how everything says that what i'm saying is complete BS, but bear with me) Lets say that they let it expire and come next May we have this new trademark. Lets also say that quakecon was where TES V is announced (next year) and that they begin expanding n information already given by the next major gaming conference.

Now does this sound absurdly impossible without even a minuscule chance of happening, or is there an actual chance of this happening?

Well i agree with you on one part, that they are just not going to announce anything in the coming months, i think that jack [censored] will be said regardless of the trademark. My spidey senses are telling me this.... you see.

[Jessica Colville]

When they revealed Oblivion, they had Patrick Stewart locked in and speaking on the trailer. We need to make a list of famous actors who might be wrangled for TES 5 and see if they have gone to recording studios for a non-musical purpose.

Bethesda seems to like people who have worked in the Fantasy/Science Fiction genres before; Star Trek, Lord of the Rings, Superman. That narrows it a little. Look for people from sci fi and fantasy shows. Kevin Sorbo is probably around the top of the list.

Robert Downey, Jr.
I would welcome an actor as skilled as he is for a major role.

[Angela Woods]

I'm going to toss this hypothetical question for everyone (we're speculating so we might as well look at every possibility) lets say that Beth really were using Skyrim is a fraud (I understand how unlikely it is and how much money they put into it, and how everything says that what i'm saying is complete BS, but bear with me) Lets say that they let it expire and come next May we have this new trademark. Lets also say that quakecon was where TES V is announced (next year) and that they begin expanding n information already given by the next major gaming conference.

Now does this sound absurdly impossible without even a minuscule chance of happening, or is there an actual chance of this happening?

Well i agree with you on one part, that they are just not going to announce anything in the coming months, i think that jack [censored] will be said regardless of the trademark. My spidey senses are telling me this.... you see.

It's possible, anything's possible really. But what I want to know is... why? What proof do you (spartan258) and the others who insist, despite the evidence to the contrary, that it wont be announced this summer, have? The people who support a summer announcement have an expiring trademark as evidence. You guys have... what? What makes you look at the evidence, spit in it's face and proudly proclaim that it must be false, or a conspiracy of some sort? A crystal ball? A time machine? It doesn't make any sense to me that someone would actually want the evidence we have to be inaccurate and actually want the announcement to take another year. So come on, show me what evidence you guys have that this trademark means nothing and it wont be announced until we have another trademark. Is it because you just don't like Skyrim as a setting, so you refuse to believe that it's actually going to happen? Please, enlighten me.

[Harry Hearing]

You can't make a horse drink from a stream.

[JLG]

You can't make a horse drink from a stream.

True, but my question is, why is the horse eating sand instead?

[Julie Serebrekoff]

It's possible, anything's possible really. But what I want to know is... why? What proof do you (spartan258) and the others who insist, despite the evidence to the contrary, that it wont be announced this summer, have? The people who support a summer announcement have an expiring trademark as evidence. You guys have... what? What makes you look at the evidence, spit in it's face and proudly proclaim that it must be false, or a conspiracy of some sort? A crystal ball? A time machine? It doesn't make any sense to me that someone would actually want the evidence we have to be inaccurate and actually want the announcement to take another year. So come on, show me what evidence you guys have that this trademark means nothing and it wont be announced until we have another trademark. Is it because you just don't like Skyrim as a setting, so you refuse to believe that it's actually going to happen? Please, enlighten me.

evidence? All you have is speculation, nothing at all close to evidence.

Sure it gives the idea of a summer announcement more weight, but when we're talking nanograms that's still not much weight.....

What do they have as to why they won't announce? Well because there is no REAL evidence to show that they will.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for an announcement and am hoping for one (before I lose interest) this summer, but to lambast someone when your argument is hardly more than theirs is a bit much.

The Skyrim trademark does not mean it has to be used for a game, it could be used for other things that does not directly tie into the tesV game.

[Tamika Jett]

evidence? All you have is speculation, nothing at all close to evidence.

Sure it gives the idea of a summer announcement more weight, but when we're talking nanograms that's still not much weight.....

What do they have as to why they won't announce? Well because there is no REAL evidence to show that they will.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for an announcement and am hoping for one (before I lose interest) this summer, but to lambast someone when your argument is hardly more than theirs is a bit much.

The Skyrim trademark does not mean it has to be used for a game, it could be used for other things that does not directly tie into the tesV game.

You're calling a trademark, that we can clearly see is expiring, speculation? I'm not saying it's definitive proof, but the fact that it's expiring would lead anybody to believe that they will want to announce the game using it before it expires. It may not be the ultimate evidence, but it is far more evidence than the people who think the trademark means nothing, and it will be announced whenever they think it will be announced, have.

[Barbequtie]

i want it just as much as you, im just being generally negative...

[Guinevere Wood]

You guys drive me crazy sometimes...

This is the current state of my sanity as well: :bonk:

Look for people from sci fi and fantasy shows. Kevin Sorbo is probably around the top of the list.

By the time you have that list compiled, let alone to any reasonable degree of certainty, TES:VI will have been released!

Now does this sound absurdly impossible without even a minuscule chance of happening, or is there an actual chance of this happening?

I'll allow you to hold onto that possibility so long as you allow me to hold on to the theory that pink striped extraterrestrials are secretly assisting Bethesda with the development.

Is it because you just don't like Skyrim as a setting, so you refuse to believe that it's actually going to happen? Please, enlighten me.

My guess is that the naysayers are secretly rival extraterrestrials trying to throw off the game's development through random acts of ignorance.

True, but my question is, why is the horse eating sand instead?

I literally choked on my tea...thanks for the trip to the laundry!

evidence? All you have is speculation, nothing at all close to evidence.

I've compiled a very compelling list of EVIDENCE. The link is in my sig. It is completely ludicrous to not acknowledge it as evidence.

The Skyrim trademark does not mean it has to be used for a game, it could be used for other things that does not directly tie into the tesV game.

You are correct about this, but in light of all the other circumstantial evidence it is very convincing.

i want it just as much as you, im just being generally negative...

Well stop that! :slap:

[Kate Norris]

True, but my question is, why is the horse eating sand instead?

^_^
Who knows, it might be a chicken. They need plenty of sand or rocks for the gizzard. Its how they chew.

People, are you horses or chickens...or scribs?

[Trevor Bostwick]

Now just to be clear, i believe that there is an ideal chance of it being announced before E3 this year, but i want to give the other side a chance, they say that to beat your enemy you must become your enemy.

Now i compiled a list of possible* ideas that may suggest we won't get an announcement before E3:

• This wouldn't bee the first time that Beth let a trademark expire, it has happened before.
  
• We are getting close to the trademark close and that opening for the engine tester (i can't remember the proper name) came out just a month or two ago.
  
• In the recent interview Pete said that they wanted to change from what they ususally do (or something along those lines), this may suggest that their 'conventional' methods seen so far of announcing games may not necessarily be used.
  
• Much stress was put into Quakecon in the recent interview, while this is certainly understandable from how Doom is now part of Beth, but as their trademark game, TES may be the gold nugget they were saving for Quakecon.

Again, until the trademark actually expires i think we may be in for something, not raising my hopes too high, but i'm convinced just enough to say that i am.

* This may be between 1% and 0% relevance, aka, grasping at air.

[marie breen]

people are getting frustrated which is completely understandable!!!

The fact alone that we havent heard anything regarding the TES series from beth is frustrating.
And before you start yelling at me: I know theres the book but that doesnt tell us anything.

The trademark expires in a little over 2 months, wether they use it or not remains a mystery just know.
We havent had any info nor found new evidence.
There wont be any new info or evidence to clear things up either before July!!!

I'll hope for an anouncement, but im getting slightly sceptical aswell now, they are really letting things come down to the very last minute!

[Jodie Bardgett]

We all know they're going to release another elder scrolls game some time in the future and 90% of us believe it will be their next release so why be frustrated? I've read more than a few interviews where Todd Howard talks about the benefit of being a private company is that they don't have to release a game until it's done.

Bethesda deserves credit for taking their time. They could have easily churned out another bland elder scrolls that's just an incremental upgrade over oblivion (much like fallout new vegas btw) and we'd all end up being disappointed. The bar they set with their past games is very high and they know it.

Wouldn't you rather have a ground breaking release in 2012 that is as detailed and immersive as it could be or would you rather have another oblivion by christmas?

[claire ley]

Well, a little late for this, but that interview with pete near the beginning, he did say there wasn't going to be any announcements at E3, BUT, what about "Yeah, we have some pretty cool ideas for some stuff we want to do that's big and iconic for E3 and QuakeCon and PAX," which sounds like announcement or no there will be something big. Even if not at E3, they could announce it between E3 and QuakeCon, then show it off there, or best-case scenario before E3 and the "big and iconic" thing would be the first trailer?

And pessimism is counter-productive, not to mention annoying. Cut it out.

[Janeth Valenzuela Castelo]

For Oblivion they didn't have the music ready by E3, so I doubt it's for TESV.

They did have the music ready when they showed off the gameplay of Oblivion at E3. Not sure if that was the second time Oblivion was shown at E3 though. Did Oblivion appear at two E3s?

[Eve Booker]

Well, I've stopped wondering for the rest of the year. No news at E3 = not coming out this year and probably the next. I take Pete Hines words a bit more seriously so..

[Georgine Lee]

We all know they're going to release another elder scrolls game some time in the future and 90% of us believe it will be their next release so why be frustrated? I've read more than a few interviews where Todd Howard talks about the benefit of being a private company is that they don't have to release a game until it's done.

Bethesda deserves credit for taking their time. They could have easily churned out another bland elder scrolls that's just an incremental upgrade over oblivion (much like fallout new vegas btw) and we'd all end up being disappointed. The bar they set with their past games is very high and they know it.

Wouldn't you rather have a ground breaking release in 2012 that is as detailed and immersive as it could be or would you rather have another oblivion by christmas?

I couldn't agree more. Here's my feelings, "Take your time with this Beth and get it right, but please, please, for the love of God, let us know what you're up to!"

[Steve Fallon]

http://www.vg247.com/2010/05/05/bethesda-not-expected-to-announce-anything-at-e3/, also who said they had to announce it at E3 ? Sure it's big but I rather have them wait after it so they get more attention.

[Julia Schwalbe]

According to the trademark they will have to show us something before august.
Or is there anyway they can stretch the expiering date till august and then show of and announce?

[Eduardo Rosas]

:facepalm:

Seriously people, TESV is most likely going to be announced sometime before the trademark expires (in august is it?).

It may not be before E3 or at E3. But Bethesda has typically announced games, then showcased them in a gameinformer. They have done this for both Fallout 3 and Oblivion.

And to those who say they may just let the trademark expire... why would they keep renewing it then? Just to let it expire? Just to say 'sike' when they are supposed to file a statement of use?

So unless the people at Bethesda are completely devoid of all logic, a TESV announcement is likely on the horizon between now and August. Its very possible even before E3.

Its very unlikely that (as has been suggested by others) Bethesda would let the trademark expire, wait until 2012, 2013, or whenever the next consoles come out to announce a TESV. That would not make much sense. They would be highly unusual for them to do.

Besides, we don't know if the next consoles are going to come out in a couple or several years. Sony and Microsoft have just came out with their motion controllers (or will come out soon). This shows that they are still very much interested in the current generation of consoles, and want to keep them for a while. Heck, they've even explicitly said that in interviews, numerous times.

So, people please!

Get your hopes up! :foodndrink:

A TESV announcement is on the horizon within the next few months! :celebration:

[Juan Cerda]

A TESV announcement is on the horizon within the next few months! :celebration:

I'm thinking more like weeks, not months, unless Beth wants to wait until the absolute very last second. They have approximately 12 weeks until the trademark expires.

[victoria johnstone]

Yeah, I think it's likely that ESV will be shown at one E3, and that is E3 2011.

Just basing off the fact from what Pete Hines said and implied, and that Oblivion was only shown at one E3.