[Ells]

It could be used for the MMO or another handheld. Or possibly even a completely new genre set in the TES universe. Zenimax is the parent company, not the developer, therefore anything they trademark has an equal chance of being developed by any of their subsidiary developers.
We also do not know that they are working on TESV, so it also is not a known relevant alternative.

I'm just playing the role of the Devil's Advocare, primarily because I see a lot of people beating down other's theories using the trademark argument without actually having any real basis to do so.

Bingo. Could be an iPhone app for all we know.

[rae.x]

I never expected people would be so against a game being set in Skyrim that they'd convince themselves Bethesda's only clearly TES related trademark is for anything but TES V. MMOs, Iphone apps, whatever it's for, it can't possibly be for TES V.

I mean I understand you want to be realistic but come on people, don't let your feelings towards Skyrim cloud your judgment. I personally would be happy to see a TES game take place pretty much anywhere, but I guess certain areas are just not good enough for some people.

[Michelle Serenity Boss]

I never expected people would be so against a game being set in Skyrim that they'd convince themselves Bethesda's only clearly TES related trademark is for anything but TES V. MMOs, Iphone apps, whatever it's for, it can't possibly be for TES V.

I mean I understand you want to be realistic but come on people, don't let your feelings towards Skyrim cloud your judgment. I personally would be happy to see a TES game take place pretty much anywhere, but I guess certain areas are just not good enough for some people.

Pretty much how I feel. These threads are getting a little ridiculous, heh. Throwing ANY possibility out there except the fact that the Skyrim trademark might be for TES:V. :rolleyes:
I'd be happy with a game anywhere.

[Josh Trembly]

I never expected people would be so against a game being set in Skyrim that they'd convince themselves Bethesda's only clearly TES related trademark is for anything but TES V. MMOs, Iphone apps, whatever it's for, it can't possibly be for TES V.

I mean I understand you want to be realistic but come on people, don't let your feelings towards Skyrim cloud your judgment. I personally would be happy to see a TES game take place pretty much anywhere, but I guess certain areas are just not good enough for some people.

I'm not against TESV based in Skyrim. I'm just releuctant to believe TESV announcement is being haralded by the trademark. If it is, great but... TESV may not be announced for another (2) years. And the product 'may' not be what we are expecting.

[Claire Jackson]

i really wouldn't mind seeing a game set in skyrim... it'd be kind of cool, and it doesn't necessarily mean it would be the only place in the game.

[Epul Kedah]

I'm not against TESV based in Skyrim. I'm just releuctant to believe TESV announcement is being haralded by the trademark. If it is, great but... TESV may not be announced for another (2) years. And the product 'may' not be what we are expecting.

Well, I can't really see Bethesda going another 2 years not announcing anything. It'd probably be much better financial-wise to get something out there sooner.

And just to reinforce that a Fallout game isn't being made instead of ESV, Feargus Urqu..something, the project-lead of Fallout: New Vegas said that Bethesda Game Studios was working on "something else", alluding to a game that is not Fallout related.

[Shiarra Curtis]

Well, I can't really see Bethesda going another 2 years not announcing anything. It'd probably be much better financial-wise to get something out there sooner.

And just to reinforce that a Fallout game isn't being made instead of ESV, Feargus Urqu..something, the project-lead of Fallout: New Vegas said that Bethesda Game Studios was working on "something else", alluding to a game that is not Fallout related.

Exactly... it would be 3 fallout games in a row now if the new project is FO, 2 of which dev'd by bethesda... I'm pretty sure it's not going to be Fallout

[Darren]

Well, I can't really see Bethesda going another 2 years not announcing anything. It'd probably be much better financial-wise to get something out there sooner.

And just to reinforce that a Fallout game isn't being made instead of ESV, Feargus Urqu..something, the project-lead of Fallout: New Vegas said that Bethesda Game Studios was working on "something else", alluding to a game that is not Fallout related.

Adding to that: Pete Hines was clearly hinting on an announcement of some sort at QuakeCon:

"But as far as new announcements, I think we would either do those kinds of things and maybe be more inclined to do them at events like QuakeCon. That's now kind of an event that we're working with id to make bigger and better. One of the ways you make it bigger and better is you take some of your stuff and do announcements there rather than doing them elsewhere. So I think it still remains to be seen, but I wouldn't expect any big announcements from us at E3, although it is only April and it's two months away."

Of course that doesn't have to mean a new ES game, but it at least tells us they're not waiting with announcing something big for another 2 years.

[El Goose]

Probably because the poster is either:
A. Unaware of the ongoing trademark debate or
B. One of the many subscribers to the theory that the trademark does not necessarily pertain to TESV

Please remember that all we know about the trademark is when it was applied for, what category the product will be, and when the extension expires. None of these known items can be proven to be a connection to TESV and therefore it cannot be ruled out that "Skyrim" refers to a separate game, or that they do not intend to use it.

Eliminate the possible, and whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

Nice try at quoting Doyle, but Sherlock Holmes really said: "Once you eliminate the IMpossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."

All we have is circumstantial evidence; therefore we must include all possibilities, including the the possibility that all the evidence that seems to be interrelated is in fact unrelated. I assert that what we do have, however, is compelling enough to believe an announcement is near (see my sig). We could be wrong, but I believe we are not - especially when considering Pete Hines' recent interview which seemed to confirm that an announcement was coming (may or may not be TES:V).

Remember, those of you doubting, this is a thread for speculating TES:V, NOT for speculating Bethesda's next game. There's a big difference there.

I never expected people would be so against a game being set in Skyrim that they'd convince themselves Bethesda's only clearly TES related trademark is for anything but TES V. MMOs, Iphone apps, whatever it's for, it can't possibly be for TES V.

I mean I understand you want to be realistic but come on people, don't let your feelings towards Skyrim cloud your judgment. I personally would be happy to see a TES game take place pretty much anywhere, but I guess certain areas are just not good enough for some people.

I think people just like poking holes in our theories; kinda like blowing our candles out to make theirs shine brighter!

[flora]

Remember, those of you doubting, this is a thread for speculating TES:V, NOT for speculating Bethesda's next game. There's a big difference there.

Aren't we all just a little bit in doubt? I mean, if we were absolutely sure, we wouldn't have a need for this thread.... :shrug:

[Lory Da Costa]

I think it's pretty obvious. They trademarked "Skyrim". It's the name of one of the provinces of Tamriel. They've reached the max ammount of extensions. Time to official announce TESV. End of story. Not trying to shoot down anyone elses theory, but this is the only one that shows any kind of promise at this point.

However, they said that it's much more likely that QuakeCon is where to look, which is two months(?) after the deadline. Besides, it's not like they haven't let their trademark expire before.

[Anthony Diaz]

However, they said that it's much more likely that QuakeCon is where to look, which is two months(?) after the deadline. Besides, it's not like they haven't let their trademark expire before.

It's around 12 days after the trademark expires (July 31st- August 12th). So while they technically can't announce it there, they can say it exists before July 31st and with the announcement say that more details will be coming at Quakecon.

[K J S]

However, they said that it's much more likely that QuakeCon is where to look, which is two months(?) after the deadline. Besides, it's not like they haven't let their trademark expire before.

Yes that's true, but after renewing it to the maximum legal limit that doesn't entail a public showing?

Aside from which, I am now firmly in the "website then GI cover" announcement camp. I also assume QuakeCon will have some screenies and video.

[Christine Pane]

It's around 12 days after the trademark expires (July 31st- August 12th). So while they technically can't announce it there, they can say it exists before July 31st and with the announcement say that more details will be coming at Quakecon.

This... mainly because you can't redefine Quakecon without hype. There are a ton of advertisers and volunteers who may not support such a drastic shift in this type of event... remember the bulk of this event is everyone bringing their PCs and having massive FPS tournaments. If you are going to turn this into a Zenimax publicity event, you need to bring the right audience, and thus hype it before hand. An announcement has to come before this (as stated above for the trademark), but also because they can draw the right crowd to Quakecon by announcing before E3 and teasing at E3 so all the industry peeps will come to what is traditionally a frag-a-thon.

[Milagros Osorio]

do you guys think TES V is gonna use Direct X 11 or did that come out too late? I've seen some videos and man can it do some pretty stuff. I'd hate to see a game that's not using the latest technology

[Megan Stabler]

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This is a good argument in which I would agree. QuakeCon as it has historically been would likely not be ideally received. The event would need to change, and a previous TES:V announcement might help provide the impetus for that change.

[emily grieve]

do you guys think TES V is gonna use Direct X 11 or did that come out too late? I've seen some videos and man can it do some pretty stuff. I'd hate to see a game that's not using the latest technology

I don't think so. It's possible that ESV is using DX10 though, and I hope so.

[gemma king]

do you guys think TES V is gonna use Direct X 11 or did that come out too late? I've seen some videos and man can it do some pretty stuff. I'd hate to see a game that's not using the latest technology

Because graphics play a huge part in a Roleplaying experience.

[(G-yen)]

do you guys think TES V is gonna use Direct X 11 or did that come out too late? I've seen some videos and man can it do some pretty stuff. I'd hate to see a game that's not using the latest technology

Because the current console gen, which is most likely targeted for TES:V, does not have DX11 support I highly doubt it. Not a lot of people have video cards that can support it yet, either. It would be awesome if it did use DX11.

[kelly thomson]

Because the current console gen, which is most likely targeted for TES:V, does not have DX11 support I highly doubt it. Not a lot of people have video cards that can support it yet, either. It would be awesome if it did use DX11.

Plus the **POSSIBLE** developer comment that I read (we won't get into that )

[SamanthaLove]

Aren't we all just a little bit in doubt? I mean, if we were absolutely sure, we wouldn't have a need for this thread.... :shrug:

My point was that in the attempt to refute our argument for a TES:V announcement the discussion seemed to have veered into the speculation of other games. Individually considered, each of the pieces of evidence I cite tells us nothing. However, taking them all together they form a coherent picture that strongly suggests TES:V is near. Sure, anything's possible...but not everything is probable.

[Donald Richards]

I'm not in doubt. I know for a fact that there will be another ES game in the series. For a fact. No doubt. That's because it's been proven, and stated, more than once, by people who work for Bethesda Game Studios.
When, however, is a different story.

[LittleMiss]

Because graphics play a huge part in a Roleplaying experience.

They do in an Elder Scrolls experience, where we see a huge, open world from first-person view and in real-time. Bethesda has always made pretty games.

[Kari Depp]

I don't think it will have DX11. Only a handful of games out there require it right now, and by the time it becomes the norm TES V will have been in development for too long for Bethesda to change it.

[CHANONE]

They do in an Elder Scrolls experience, where we see a huge, open world from first-person view and in real-time. Bethesda has always made pretty games.

The fact that I enjoy Morrowind over Oblivion in every way disproves what you just said.
Pretty doesn't mean immersive.