[Bird]

There is NO OFFICIAL information about a new TES game release.

This thread is for member speculation of when and if TES V will be released. This is where you post any new information about when it might be released, tidbits from interviews which mention it and such.

It is also where you post your theories of when you think it might come out based on guesses, number crunching, rumors or such.

This is about speculating on the next TES game and when -- or if -- it is going to be released. It is not a place for discussion of what is going to be in it, what type of graphics there will be, or any other subject of that type; they belong in the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1090035-tes-v-ideas-and-suggestions-164/. If those kind of posts get raised they will be deleted and the poster warned for going off topic.


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More recent interviews of note:
April 27th, 2009: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/974/974529p1.html
June 25th, 2009: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24211 (particularly this quoted part)August 14th, 2009: http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/08/14/quakecon-2009-todd-howard-keynote-highlights/
August 17th, 2009: Pete clarify many things of what happen in QuakeCon in this blog: http://bethblog.com/index.php/2009/08/17/clarifying-about-next-elder-scrolls-game-mmo-etc/
January 6th, 2010: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/kotaku/2010/01/06/chatting-with-fallout-and-oblivions-todd-howard, at the 9:30-10:30 mark Todd Howard said: "[...] we spend a lot of time adding to the engine, [...] and we've sort of been doing that with the big new game [we've been] making since we finished Fallout 3. You know we finished Fallout 3 over a year ago so that whole time has been spent re-doing a large part of our basic technology[...]".
May 4th 2010: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/04/interview-bethesdas-pete-hines/ about future games.

PLEASE NOTE: AS PER MODERATOR REQUESTS IN THE PREVIOUS THREAD, PLEASE CONFINE THIS DISCUSSION TO SPECULATION TO BETHESDA GAME STUDIOS / TES:V. DISCUSSION OF ZENIMAX ONLINE STUDIOS PROJECTS OR AN ES MMO SHOULD GO IN THE http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1085332-official-tes-multiplayer-thread/

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http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1083843-official-tesv-topic-yes-no-maybe/
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1082727-official-when-and-if-we-will-get-tes-v/

[Lucky Girl]

I "speculate" a Quakecon announcement.

[Miranda Taylor]

I "speculate" a Quakecon announcement.

Something's definitely being hinted at there

[Eric Hayes]

I've always thought it was just a background image. An arbitrary fantasy-esque landscape to keep the site from being a complete eyesore. :shrug:

Yeah, that's also a possibility, and I'm speculating when I say that that concept art is absolutely from their MMO, but it's a pretty darn possible possibility. Where did they get that art if it's not from their MMO? Who made it? Etc.

Anyway, it's not a big deal. Even though the MMO was worked on in late 2006, and the Skyrims were trademarked in late 2006, I still don't think they relate.


One more question I have concerning the MMO is that around a hundred people worked on it since late 2006, but who were those people?? Zenimax Online wasn't even officially established. Did they all come from Bethesda Game Studios? So they took a bunch of guys from BGS away from developing Fallout 3, and I wonder if those guys are still working on the MMO. I'd rather they work on what BGS is working on. Though we don't even know for sure if those guys were from BGS. Gah.

[Elizabeth Lysons]

I "speculate" a Quakecon announcement.

Me too. There is a reason why Pete was so explicit about this, when everything else is kept so hazy.
Pre-hype anyone?

[Lisa]

I've yet to find a game that filed a statement of use before the release date. Usually it's filed LONG after the game was released. However, I've also not seen a trademark that came to down to the wire like the SKYRIM trademark is. I guess we'll see what happens.

Does anyone know what the DISHONORED trade mark is for. If not that's a third trademark that I can't explain(SKYRIM, DEATHMARK) I know it's a stretch but considering zenimax's current projects it could be ES related. It was originally filed for in 2004 abandoned and then refiled for in 2007 so it's hard to believe that it's for TESV, but I don't know what else to make of it.

And did anyone else know that zenimax has a trademark for OB under class 041 and says it's for "Motion picture film production; entertainment services, namely, providing motion picture theatrical films in the field of fantasy games" They filed a request for extension 2 days ago ( 5th extension as well) I may just have never seen this discussed before but seems like a big deal to me.

[Victoria Vasileva]

One more question I have concerning the MMO is that around a hundred people worked on it since late 2006, but who were those people?? Zenimax Online wasn't even officially established. Did they all come from Bethesda Game Studios? So they took a bunch of guys from BGS away from developing Fallout 3, and I wonder if those guys are still working on the MMO. I'd rather they work on what BGS is working on. Though we don't even know for sure if those guys were from BGS. Gah.

Do we know anything about the numbers of new staff members being hired around that time? That would at least solve part of the problem.

[Erika Ellsworth]

And did anyone else know that zenimax has a trademark for OB under class 041 and says it's for "Motion picture film production; entertainment services, namely, providing motion picture theatrical films in the field of fantasy games" They filed a request for extension 2 days ago ( 5th extension as well) I may just have never seen this discussed before but seems like a big deal to me.

holy [censored]. AI guess we have to deal with the adoring fan in a movie now.

[Soph]

And did anyone else know that zenimax has a trademark for OB under class 041 and says it's for "Motion picture film production; entertainment services, namely, providing motion picture theatrical films in the field of fantasy games" They filed a request for extension 2 days ago ( 5th extension as well) I may just have never seen this discussed before but seems like a big deal to me.

Well now, I am not too crazy about watching an Oblivion movie... not even a little. The only reason I read the Infernal City was to quench my thirst for TES and glean some insight into TESV (if possible)... but I love TES because you aren't watching someone else's story... heck you don't even have to do the main storyline to spend hours of your life in Tamriel. Of course I would go and see it on opening day though, just cuz haahaa

[Céline Rémy]

Well now, I am not too crazy about watching an Oblivion movie... not even a little. The only reason I read the Infernal City was to quench my thirst for TES and glean some insight into TESV (if possible)... but I love TES because you aren't watching someone else's story... heck you don't even have to do the main storyline to spend hours of your life in Tamriel. Of course I would go and see it on opening day though, just cuz haahaa

Which would be another hour or two spent... :laugh:

[jason worrell]

I believe Pete Hines replied about that Oblivion motion-picture trademark. They got the trademark just in case. I think they also have a trademark for a Fallout motion-picture.

[Kara Payne]

Okay... I did a little reading, and there are two things to consider:

1) Use In Commerce can actually be met simply by proving that the company is spending money to make their product.
2) This requirement, while part of the process was ruled incorrect and is no longer law

http://www.ipmall.org/hosted_resources/IDEA/32_IDEA/32_IDEA_327_Christensen.pdf

Have fun reading this wonderful PDF, but you'll find the summary above is about all you'll get out of it.

[JLG]

Yay new facts time:

There is at least one Elderscrolls game by the name of "Skyrim" in the works. No word on release date or what it is.

Guess that's it, ohwell. Nice work you obsessive compulsives you! Even if the only thing learned was what was known from the start :unsure2:

[Sophie Payne]

Yay new facts time:

There is at least one Elderscrolls game by the name of "Skyrim" in the works. No word on release date or what it is.

Guess that's it, ohwell. Nice work you obsessive compulsives you! Even if the only thing learned was what was known from the start :unsure2:

Erm, where did you get this "fact" from?

[Heather beauchamp]

Erm, where did you get this "fact" from?

He said "Elderscrolls game", no TES series game. It leaves open the possibility of an MMO, Travels, etc.

Although I do understand your point. The trademark doesn't even mean that its in production, but it doesn't quite make much sense for them to keep such a specific trademark going, as compared to keeping a general TES movie trademark up to protect their interests.

[Charity Hughes]

Erm, where did you get this "fact" from?

Actually I disagree. Oblivion is something of a odd duck, I'm not sure it could used to block the name of another film (perhaps a disaster film). The Elder Scrolls on the other hand is a name that implies a specific IP. Oblivion is the name that you would TM because it's kind of a general word.
Although, what are the odds someone would actually use the Oblivion name for a movie? I mean wouldn't you want to use some other title? Maybe something like "The Elder Scrolls: Fallen Empire." Ohh that's a good one. It even implies the time period. It could be followed by "The Elder Scrolls: The Empire Strikes ..." wait that might have it's own TM already.

If there was a movie in the works I'd definately be going. I'd be screaming like a little girl in the front row.

[k a t e]

Erm, where did you get this "fact" from?

You guys! Skyrim trademarked for a video game, renewed multiple times, it's almost certainly a fact. Despite all the insane ranting on these threads this stuff really isn't that hard to figure out. You guys just drive yourself in circles for lack of anything better to do.

[Sara Johanna Scenariste]

I've yet to find a game that filed a statement of use before the release date. Usually it's filed LONG after the game was released. However, I've also not seen a trademark that came to down to the wire like the SKYRIM trademark is. I guess we'll see what happens.

Does anyone know what the DISHONORED trade mark is for. If not that's a third trademark that I can't explain(SKYRIM, DEATHMARK) I know it's a stretch but considering zenimax's current projects it could be ES related. It was originally filed for in 2004 abandoned and then refiled for in 2007 so it's hard to believe that it's for TESV, but I don't know what else to make of it.

And did anyone else know that zenimax has a trademark for OB under class 041 and says it's for "Motion picture film production; entertainment services, namely, providing motion picture theatrical films in the field of fantasy games" They filed a request for extension 2 days ago ( 5th extension as well) I may just have never seen this discussed before but seems like a big deal to me.

Okay... I did a little reading, and there are two things to consider:

1) Use In Commerce can actually be met simply by proving that the company is spending money to make their product.
2) This requirement, while part of the process was ruled incorrect and is no longer law

http://www.ipmall.org/hosted_resources/IDEA/32_IDEA/32_IDEA_327_Christensen.pdf

Have fun reading this wonderful PDF, but you'll find the summary above is about all you'll get out of it.

Wow guys, thanks for looking deeper into this! The article is a good find, but its argument seems to pertain specifically to what constitutes interstate commerce; on the hand it does show there's considerable interpretive debate on the definition.

[Kellymarie Heppell]

You guys! Skyrim trademarked for a video game, renewed multiple times, it's almost certainly a fact. Despite all the insane ranting on these threads this stuff really isn't that hard to figure out. You guys just drive yourself in circles for lack of anything better to do.

It hurts because it's true

[lexy]

You guys! Skyrim trademarked for a video game, renewed multiple times, it's almost certainly a fact. Despite all the insane ranting on these threads this stuff really isn't that hard to figure out. You guys just drive yourself in circles for lack of anything better to do.

You obviously haven't been reading the last couple threads. The viability of the "Skyrim" trademark is in serious question at this point unfortunately. Don't get me wrong, I want it announced this summer as much as the next guy but we've run into a slight snag in the reasoning.

[Abel Vazquez]

Still, we cannot deny that Zenimax has interest in the Skyrim trademarks. They're going to be used, either sooner or later.

[Bee Baby]

Still, we cannot deny that Zenimax has interest in the Skyrim trademarks. They're going to be used, either sooner or later.

That's my hope; that we're just freaking out due to ignorance. However, we have still yet to find any example of a "Statement of Use" being filed before a game's release within the 36 month limit.

[Nichola Haynes]

You obviously haven't been reading the last couple threads. The viability of the "Skyrim" trademark is in serious question at this point unfortunately. Don't get me wrong, I want it announced this summer as much as the next guy but we've run into a slight snag in the reasoning.

No you didn't. Well ok they might have changed the name or whatever. But it's all fine, so long as Bethesda can prove it's spending money on it it's considered "used in commerce" and thus can renew the trademark yet again. Apparently I've been keeping up better than you guys have :spotted owl:

Edit- Uhhh, just look back at the rest of the threads guys...

[Bellismydesi]

No you didn't. Well ok they might have changed the name or whatever. But it's all fine, so long as Bethesda can prove it's spending money on it it's considered "used in commerce" and thus can renew the trademark yet again. Apparently I've been keeping up better than you guys have :spotted owl:

No, this is not correct the way I understand it. How do you know that "spending money on it" is considered "Use in Commerce"? If this were the case, then why have they not yet filed their "Statement of Use"? This isn't about keeping a trademark, but actually obtaining one. They're still technically applying for the trademark and must file a "Statement of Use" by 7-31-2010, 8-14-2010, or 9-11-2010 (depending on which trademark) or else they will be considered abandoned. According to the rules I've read, they cannot file the required "Statement of Use" until they can prove its use in commerce. So my question again, if they're meeting the requirement for "Use in Commerce" then why have they not yet filed the "Statement of Use"?

I apologize for the questions, but besides the pre-order idea, I have yet to have a good answer to these questions.

[Kelli Wolfe]

He said "Elderscrolls game", no TES series game. It leaves open the possibility of an MMO, Travels, etc.

Although I do understand your point. The trademark doesn't even mean that its in production, but it doesn't quite make much sense for them to keep such a specific trademark going, as compared to keeping a general TES movie trademark up to protect their interests.

Actually I disagree. Oblivion is something of a odd duck, I'm not sure it could used to block the name of another film (perhaps a disaster film). The Elder Scrolls on the other hand is a name that implies a specific IP. Oblivion is the name that you would TM because it's kind of a general word.
Although, what are the odds someone would actually use the Oblivion name for a movie? I mean wouldn't you want to use some other title? Maybe something like "The Elder Scrolls: Fallen Empire." Ohh that's a good one. It even implies the time period. It could be followed by "The Elder Scrolls: The Empire Strikes ..." wait that might have it's own TM already.

If there was a movie in the works I'd definately be going. I'd be screaming like a little girl in the front row.

You guys got all that from me asking what his source is!? :blink:

I simply wanted to know what proof he had. He called it a fact. I believe in the trademark, obviously, but when someone says something is a fact, I want to see some proof. Jeez guys...