[Margarita Diaz]

Nice photoshop there Mikedzines. :goodjob:

[Manny(BAKE)]

Thanks C-money.

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[Louise Dennis]

Thanks C-money.

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Ahem..It's C-Rowdy.

And you know those guest are devs.

[brenden casey]

Ahem..It's C-Rowdy.

And you know those guest are devs.

Sorry,

was just me reading whilst not logged on!!!

It seems beth is waiting till the last minute before some info...(Legal stuff nd all)
Getting the feeling it might be 6 months later before it is announcement or even admitted ESV excist :confused:

people please prove me wrong as i cant prove it will be out later.....

[Kara Payne]

Seems like the best way to uncover that Bethesda is working on TES V is to get another developer to make a spin off Elder Scrolls game. Why? Because some devs from Obsidian basically strongly hinted that Fallout 4 is at least in the planning stages. Read this:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/interviews/7500-Feargus-Urquhart-Comes-Home.2

We haven't asked a ton, but things get run by Todd Howard all the time. The amount of conflict that has existed - like "Why can't we do this?" "Well you just can't," - it's been like four things. A lot of it has to do with that they have ideas for the future and so they just don't want us to go playing with where they see their future.

TE: Can you give any examples of the four or so things you weren't able to do?

FU: In some cases, it's pretty minor stuff. For one of them, we were thinking of a certain city and they said "We want to reserve that for something we want to do." It didn't really hurt what we were doing at all.

I interpreted that as that Bethesda had an idea for a city (not a location, but a theme like a city in a boat like Rivet City), and Bethesda didn't want Obsidian using that theme in New Vegas because they want to do that for Fallout 4. So, unless I'm really blowing it out of proportion, Fallout 4 is already being planned. That's not to say TES V isn't being planned, because we know it has been already, as evidenced by The Infernal City. Bethesda would have had to plan out TES V before coming up with the plot for The Infernal City.

Sorry,

was just me reading whilst not logged on!!!

It seems beth is waiting till the last minute before some info...(Legal stuff nd all)
Getting the feeling it might be 6 months later before it is announcement or even admitted ESV excist :confused:

people please prove me wrong as i cant prove it will be out later.....

We can't prove anything right now. We just have to wait and see really. :shrug:

[SWagg KId]

Well, I think it's kind of obvious Bethesda has done some degree of planning for Fallout 4. They always plan ahead. They're probably in pre-production stages of Fallout 4, while in full-production for ESV.

[Kaley X]

Well, I think it's kind of obvious Bethesda has done some degree of planning for Fallout 4. They always plan ahead. They're probably in pre-production stages of Fallout 4, while in full-production for ESV.

Yeah, but it's good to have some evidence for it.

[Lance Vannortwick]

Well, I think it's kind of obvious Bethesda has done some degree of planning for Fallout 4. They always plan ahead. They're probably in pre-production stages of Fallout 4, while in full-production for ESV.

I don't think the mainstream fans of Fallout 3 will be happy waiting 4 years for another game, let alone an announcement, so to give the devs some time to make another game, they have to release a game... if you can't do it yourself, you call Obsidian. I have to say that I had never even heard of Fallout before Bethesda got the rights. I love that game now too, but it is a Bethesda Game Studios game, after all. I am a bigger fan of TES though, and I would call outright sacrilege if they told Obsidian to give me a TES game to tide me over. I am okay with a little New Vegas to whet my post-apocalyptic VATS induced Super Mutant appetite.

If Bethesda is going to be releasing Fallout 4, and New Vegas is the tasty morsel for the quickly-averted-to-another-cool-game masses, they need to be more than just along the pre-planning stages. You get 2 years after New Vegas releases and the Fallout 4 game has to be in their hands, or you risk losing a big segment of your market base.

[Benji]

I don't think the mainstream fans of Fallout 3 will be happy waiting 4 years for another game, let alone an announcement, so to give the devs some time to make another game, they have to release a game... if you can't do it yourself, you call Obsidian. I have to say that I had never even heard of Fallout before Bethesda got the rights. I love that game now too, but it is a Bethesda Game Studios game, after all. I am a bigger fan of TES though, and I would call outright sacrilege if they told Obsidian to give me a TES game to tide me over. I am okay with a little New Vegas to whet my post-apocalyptic VATS induced Super Mutant appetite.

If Bethesda is going to be releasing Fallout 4, and New Vegas is the tasty morsel for the quickly-averted-to-another-cool-game masses, they need to be more than just along the pre-planning stages. You get 2 years after New Vegas releases and the Fallout 4 game has to be in their hands, or you risk losing a big segment of your market base.

Why make an exception with Fallout? Oblivion mainstream fans have been waiting for 4 years as of now. This, and if you take Halo for example, one of the most successful series in the market, each game took 3 years to make except for ODST which is an exception. Now Halo is far more mainstream than Fallout and each subsequent game sold more than the precedent, the wait only giving more fodder to the hype. Modern Warfare proves you can dish out a game each year and sell as much, though Halo still proves you can release an entry each 3 year and sell more each time. It's only a question of how much money you want, if money is your main concern.

[Jessica Nash]

Bethesda takes time on its big projects. Yes, it's been four years since Oblivion was released, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elder_Scrolls#The_Elder_Scrolls_release_timeline.

By the way, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_2, although that was well before Bethesda got its hands on the series.

[Dorian Cozens]

I was thinking of this for a while and can't remember for the life of me. Right now TES V hasn't been mentioned yet from Bethesda. But say it does. How long after they mention it will it get released? I know it's not set in stone, but when I remember Morrowind mentioned, it was what 4 or 5 years after it finally got released. I remember waiting for ever for this game then gave up on it, and was floored when I herd it would be released. It must have been like 4 years of it was being worked on and then finally released. For Oblivion, what was it? One or two years? I dont think it was 3 or more like Morrowind.

So what do you thinkg for TES V? Will it be 2 years if Bethesda mentioned in say tomorrow, hypothetically speaking. I understand things get delayed but just curious since it's been bugging me because I can't remember about how long the other 2 games I have been eagerly waiting for.

[Cassie Boyle]

I was thinking of this for a while and can't remember for the life of me. Right now TES V hasn't been mentioned yet from Bethesda. But say it does. How long after they mention it will it get released? I know it's not set in stone, but when I remember Morrowind mentioned, it was what 4 or 5 years after it finally got released. I remember waiting for ever for this game then gave up on it, and was floored when I herd it would be released. It must have been like 4 years of it was being worked on and then finally released. For Oblivion, what was it? One or two years? I dont think it was 3 or more like Morrowind.

So what do you thinkg for TES V? Will it be 2 years if Bethesda mentioned in say tomorrow, hypothetically speaking. I understand things get delayed but just curious since it's been bugging me because I can't remember about how long the other 2 games I have been eagerly waiting for.

Last three Bethesda games:


TESIII: Morrowind
12/10/1998 – Redguard Release (TESIII: Morrowind Development Begins)
9/22/1999 – TESIII: Morrowind Trademark Application Date
5/12/2000 – TESIII: Morrowind Announced for PC Release in late 2001
5/5/2001 – TESIII: Morrowind Announced for Xbox Release date
5/17/2001 – TESIII: Morrowind shown at E3
5/1/2002 – TESIII: Morrowind Released on PC
6/7/2002 – TESIII: Morrowind Released on Xbox

TESIV: Oblivion
5/1/2002 - Actual development begins on TESIV: Oblivion
10/6/2004 – Oblivion Trademark Application Date
10/24/2004 TESIV: Oblivion In Development announcement
5/18/2005 E3 2005, trailer with game play footage (Microsoft)
3/20/2006 TESIV: Oblivion Release Date

Fallout 3
7/12/2004 - Actual development begins on Fallout 3 & Under Development ANNOUNCED
2/1/2005 – Fallout 3 Trademark Application Date
5/2/2007 - Game concept art and music shown (NO actual game footage)
6/5/2007 - First Teaser Trailer of ACTUAL GAME
7/11/2007 - E3 Private Showing for Fallout 3
3/21/2008 - Todd Howard details Fallout 3 to OXM
7/15/2008 - E3 Microsoft shows Fallout 3
10/28/2008 - Fallout 3 RELEASED

[Ruben Bernal]

Thank you so much SyltStryder. Where did you find this? So about 2 years if things go well from when they mention something to release.

Thank you so much, now it's not bugging me so much anymore. :foodndrink:

[LittleMiss]

Thank you so much SyltStryder. Where did you find this? So about 2 years if things go well from when they mention something to release.

Thank you so much, now it's not bugging me so much anymore. :foodndrink:

Hehee, it's been bugging a lot of us. And the timeline is pulled together from various places (elderscrolls.com; E3 site; etc). I actually combined it to make speculation for the TESV's release:

Though now this belongs in the speculation thread

TESV: ((Skyrim))
3/20/2006 – TESIV released (potential start date for concept artist not used/completed on FO3)
10/10/2006 – Skyrim Trademark Application Date
10/28/2008 – Bethesda resources divided into “next big project” and FO3 DLC
10/14/2009 – The Infernal City Release Date set (Amazon.com retracts “200 years” statement)
11/24/2009 – The Infernal City Released
1/15/2010 – TESting Your Knowledge Trivia Begins (Prize: The Infernal City)
3/30/2010 – TESting Your Knowledge Trivia Ends (Prize: The Infernal City)
4/27/2010 – Bethesda Store Returns with TESIV DLC (Skyrim trademark is for clothing/booklets)
6/2/2010 - elderscrolls.com is updated with an announcement of TESV
6/7/2010 – Cover of GameInformer reveals first screens of TESV (July Edition)
6/14/2010 – Bethesda Online Store includes Official TESV merchandise clothing/booklets
6/15/2010 – E3 begins and Bethesda reveals game play footage of TESV
7/13/2010 - Second Elder Scrolls release date is revealed
7/31/2010 – Skyrim clothing/booklets Trademark Expires
8/12/2010 – QuakeCon (possible marketing platform for TESV)
11/23/2010 - Second Elder Scrolls novel is released and release date of 3/15/2011 for TESV is revealed
3/15/2011 – TESV Released

[Claire Vaux]

Does Bethesda decide when their published games get announced and released? if so. I think it'd be important to include this

Hunted: Demon's Forge

2009/11/24 - Trade mark filed
2010/03/15 - Game announcement on the Bethesda blog
2011/??/?? - Game will be released. I can't remember if it was quarter one or two. I'll have to dig up the interview I read.

[Rachel Tyson]

Does Bethesda decide when their published games get announced and released? if so. I think it'd be important to include this

Hunted: Demon's Forge

2009/11/24 - Trade mark filed
2010/03/15 - Game announcement on the Bethesda blog
2011/??/?? - Game will be released. I can't remember if it was quarter one or two. I'll have to dig up the interview I read.

That's a great question... didn't they publish a bunch of other games too (Call of Cthulu and Rogue Warrior)? I don't think it plays into Bethesda Game Studios timeline though as they aren't actually developing the game, but what it can do is at least give some depth to the trademark dates as they relate to release dates in the overall "mother-of-all timelines" I have been building. Thanks for the idea!! Kinda sad I never thought of it while doing all my digging.

[Soraya Davy]

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Hi, im brand new to the forum but ive been lurking here for a long time.

Also IF TES5 is announced next month and released next year (and i think it will), I would imagine they have started some very pre-production work on FO4.

[luis dejesus]

Hey guys, I updated the timeline I made to be more accurate. SyltStryder (or anyone else), if you spot anything you feel is inaccurate, feel free to mention it, and provide a source that backs you up.

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1795/timeline11.png

The problem with guessing TES V's start date is that 2006 is far, far too long ago, 2007 is a little too long ago and 2008 seems too recent. So I just started it's timeline from 2006.

[OJY]

Hey guys, I updated the timeline I made to be more accurate. SyltStryder (or anyone else), if you spot anything you feel is inaccurate, feel free to mention it, and provide a source that backs you up.

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1795/timeline11.png

The problem with guessing TES V's start date is that 2006 is far, far too long ago, 2007 is a little too long ago and 2008 seems too recent. So I just started it's timeline from 2006.

You may have actually helped me find a date that was surprisingly hard to pin down, but never made any sense to me. The only date that I could locate for a Morrowind announcement was 5/12/2000, but you have it occurring in March. Do you have a link for that since I have that date as a pretty critical part of my formula. The link I was using was just the earliest I could find:

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/elderscrolls3morrowind/news.html?sid=2567858&mode=previews

And that could easily have just been when they posted it (but it was 1am when they did)! haha

[steve brewin]

You may have actually helped me find a date that was surprisingly hard to pin down, but never made any sense to me. The only date that I could locate for a Morrowind announcement was 5/12/2000, but you have it occurring in March. Do you have a link for that since I have that date as a pretty critical part of my formula. The link I was using was just the earliest I could find:

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/elderscrolls3morrowind/news.html?sid=2567858&mode=previews

And that could easily have just been when they posted it (but it was 1am when they did)! haha

http://pc.ign.com/articles/077/077275p1.html

The article says that Morrowind had been known about for some time before it was officially announced, but I've never been able to find anything earlier then that one article. The internet was a very different place in 2000, and it's difficult to find information like that from so long ago.

[SamanthaLove]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/077/077275p1.html

The article says that Morrowind had been known about for some time before it was officially announced, but I've never been able to find anything earlier then that one article. The internet was a very different place in 2000, and difficult to find information like that from so long ago.

Tell me about it! Finding stuff on Daggerfall and Arena is nearly impossible... but thanks a bundle, that actually made a slight shift in my marketing timeline!!

[Isaac Saetern]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/077/077275p1.html

The article says that Morrowind had been known about for some time before it was officially announced, but I've never been able to find anything earlier then that one article. The internet was a very different place in 2000, and it's difficult to find information like that from so long ago.

Oh, and I just noticed the Oblivion announcement date we have are different, but I pulled this from elderscrolls.com, where did you get yours? It is also earlier than my original one, which makes me happy if it has the same effect on my timeline, but I'll need an actual date. This was the link I used to get 10/22/2004:

http://www.elderscrolls.com/games/oblivion_overview.htm

[Olga Xx]

Oh, and I just noticed the Oblivion announcement date we have are different, but I pulled this from elderscrolls.com, where did you get yours? It is also earlier than my original one, which makes me happy if it has the same effect on my timeline, but I'll need an actual date. This was the link I used to get 10/22/2004:

http://www.elderscrolls.com/games/oblivion_overview.htm

http://pc.ign.com/articles/546/546665p1.html

Seems like the elderscrolls.com was really late, strangely enough.

[Cccurly]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/546/546665p1.html

Seems like the elderscrolls.com was really late, strangely enough.

I think they are two separate dates after reading the article and comments from a moderator on another thread who mentioned that they opened up a new forum a month before the announcement of the game when they stated that they were indeed working on the next elderscrolls game... so I am adding it to my timeline instead of replacing the actual announcement date! But still valuable to me nonetheless.

[mimi_lys]

But it does lend some weight to letting Skyrim expire... even if they choose to use it later. The Skyrim application date was a full two years before the release of Fallout 3, and who knows how that really affected Beths plans.

While I see credibility there I hold out hope none-the-less for this timeline:

TESV: ((Skyrim))
3/20/2006 – TESIV released (potential start date for concept artist not used/completed on FO3)
10/10/2006 – Skyrim Trademark Application Date
10/28/2008 – Bethesda resources divided into “next big project” and FO3 DLC
10/14/2009 – The Infernal City Release Date set (Amazon.com retracts “200 years” statement)
11/24/2009 – The Infernal City Released
1/15/2010 – TESting Your Knowledge Trivia Begins (Prize: The Infernal City)
3/30/2010 – TESting Your Knowledge Trivia Ends (Prize: The Infernal City)
4/27/2010 – Bethesda Store Returns with TESIV DLC (Skyrim trademark is for clothing/booklets)
6/2/2010 - elderscrolls.com is updated with an announcement of TESV
6/7/2010 – Cover of GameInformer reveals first screens of TESV (July Edition)
6/14/2010 – Bethesda Online Store includes Official TESV merchandise clothing/booklets
6/15/2010 – E3 begins and Bethesda reveals game play footage of TESV
7/13/2010 - Second Elder Scrolls release date is revealed
7/31/2010 – Skyrim clothing/booklets Trademark Expiration date
8/12/2010 – QuakeCon (possible marketing platform for TESV)
11/23/2010 - Second Elder Scrolls novel is released and release date of 3/15/2011 for TESV is revealed
3/15/2011 – TESV Released

...only 7 days until the announcement! Hopefully...

Hey that sounds good I'll take it.