[Blackdrak]

i saw an article that said that the novel revealed that they are working on the game... is this true?

EDIT:
i found this too at some playstation forum.

http://boardsus.playstation.com/t5/E3-Expo-2010/Elder-Scrolls-V-Announcement-At-E3/td-p/45723250

it's mostly more of the same but adds a couple minor details.

According to "RPG Italia" there will be an announcement on Elder Scrolls V this year at E3.
The article states: Come ci segnala l'utente Lox79, sta girando per la rete una voce secondo cui Bethesda farà un annuncio speciale all'E3 che renderà felici i fan più accaniti della saga di The Elder Scrolls. Dopo ben quattro anni di indiscrezioni rumor e falsi allarmi arriva finalmente la prima indiscrezione di peso riguardo al seguito di Oblivion.

Secondo la rivista Famitsu un nuovo capitolo della serie The Elder Scrolls è in sviluppo avanzato presso Bethesda ed è altamente probabile che verrà annunciato/presentato già all'imminente E3 2010 di Los Angeles che ricordiamo si svolgerà dal 15 al 17 giugno compresi, per quanto riguarda gli sviluppatori.

Inoltre già altre voci avevano dato l'uscita di The Elder Scrolls V per il 2011, oppure l'esistenza di un MMO ambientato sempre nel mondo di The Elder Scrolls, anche se non si sono mai avute conferme o smentite, né si sa se si tratti di un eventuale progetto parallelo o un cambio di rotta per la saga di TES. A questo punto non ci resta che aspettare la manifestazione losangelina.

Which translates to:
As we spoke to the user Lox79, who works for the network of Bethesda, that Bethesda will make a special announcement at E3 that will make happy fans most fierce saga of the Elder Scrolls. After four years of indiscretions rumor and false alarms is finally the first affronted of weight on the follow-up of oblivion.
According to the magazine "Famitsu," a new chapter in the series of The Elder Scrolls is in advanced development at Bethesda and highly likely that will be announced/already presented at the impending E3 2010 of Los Angeles that we will take place from June 15 to June 17 including, as regards the Developers.
Moreover, already other items had given the release of the Elder Scrolls V for the 2011, or the existence of a set are always in the world of the Elder Scrolls, although you have never had confirmations or denied, or one knows if it is a possible parallel project or a change in the saga of TES. At this point there must be a wait for the event.
So those looking for Elder Scrolls V info, just wait till E3. Btw, Project Offset has nothing to do with Elder Srolls V if someone got you to believe that.

[Charlie Sarson]

i saw an article that said that the novel revealed that they are working on the game... is this true?

http://kotaku.com/5388787/elder-scrolls-novel-potentially-confirms-elder-scrolls-v

[Luna Lovegood]

http://kotaku.com/5388787/elder-scrolls-novel-potentially-confirms-elder-scrolls-v

oh damn, how they got to that conclusion based on that little tidbit is beyond me.

[Marquis T]

i saw an article that said that the novel revealed that they are working on the game... is this true?

EDIT:
i found this too at some playstation forum.

http://boardsus.playstation.com/t5/E3-Expo-2010/Elder-Scrolls-V-Announcement-At-E3/td-p/45723250

it's mostly more of the same but adds a couple minor details.

That would certainly be great if it was true, though it's just another instance of the Famitsu fiasco. That doesn't mean it wont turn out to be true, but it's just another Famitsu rumor.

[Spencey!]

That would certainly be great if it was true, though it's just another instance of the Famitsu fiasco. That doesn't mean it wont turn out to be true, but it's just another Famitsu rumor.

for some reason the Beatles son wouldn't it be nice comes to mind, as in wouldn't it be nice if tes 5 was announced at e3 this year




if only......

[Eddie Howe]

for some reason the Beatles son wouldn't it be nice comes to mind, as in wouldn't it be nice if tes 5 was announced at e3 this year




if only......

Certainly would be about time...I've spent so many years with the mindset of waiting for the game's announcement that the vary idea of the game actually coming out is just...weird.

[Elisabete Gaspar]

It's amazing how uninformed people are on other websites. Can't say I'm surprised, with the lack of info and all that. What keeps my hopes up is that all the games Beth is showing are only being published by them, so they are devoting all their resources to this secret project. Hopefully we will find out about it soon enough.

[Susan]

Holy Crap... I found the original poll:


Manufacturer Presentation existence / presence Surprise
EA 15 / Yes
Capcom No / Yes
Koetekumo No / Yes
Konami Undecided / Yes
Square Enix No / Yes
Sega No / Yes
Bannamu 16 / Secret
Bethesda No / secret
Ubi 15 / Yes


Yeah it looks like bantha poodoo when I paste it here, but if you are using chrome and can translate the site, check it out:

http://remoon.blog15.fc2.com/page-3.html#entry12454

It looks like in the poll they actually did write in the word "secret" as opposed to saying "no" or just not answering the question... so the plans for a "surprise" are "secret"...

[Laura-Jayne Lee]

I'm ignoring the whole famitsu deal( though I do think if TESV is the( possible) secret we should forever refer to it as The Elder Scrolls V: Secret Surprise)

I also think that in order to "advertise" they have to legitimately state what it is. The trademark is not on the word skyrim it's skyrim as "Computer game programs; downloadable computer game programs offered via handheld computers, wireless telephones and mobile and wireless devices" and "Providing online computer games; providing online computer game programs offered via handheld computers, wireless telephones and mobile and wireless devices" (plus the other two which were manuals and clothing) If they just mention skyrim as someone suggested or name their book skyrim it won't satisfy an SOU. I don't think they can just mention the book and say it's leading up to elder scrolls v: skyrim. I could be wrong but I'm not sure that even constitutes advertising.

My conclusion: There will be an announcement and release date (even if it is just a particular quarter in which the plan to release) soon

I think the announcement will be online first or within minutes/hours of any one of the game conferences we've mentioned. Game informer is also a possibility but it seems slim at the moment. So I think online will where we see it first (especially if they have plans to show at quakecon). Because the game has tobe advertised in multiple states at a confrence wouldn't satisfy that. So the online or game informer would still have to come before the trademark expires I know a lot of people think we won't see it at quakecon because of the nature of the conference but this is the first time an elder scrolls game will be released while the are in charge of quake so that definitely changes quakecon. be it subtle or major we have to wait and see.

[David Chambers]

I've been following this thread, with mild bemusemant for a few weeks now. I'm astonished how the tiniest scrap of (mis)information can be leveraged into something huge by a one word reply to a magazine questionnaire.

My understanding of the whole Famitsu deal is that gamesas replied 'secret' to a question on whether the company had any surprises in store for E3. This was somehow turned into the belief that gamesas had a secret surprise. It is nothing of the sort, it is simply a refusal to say whether they had a surprise or not. This is entirely in keeping with gamesas's long term policy and means absolutely nothing, not a surprise, a secret surprise or indeed a secret secret. It doesn't even mean that gamesas has a 'secret'. They are just not saying anything.

On the other hand I take comfort from the Bethblog article on 'Broken Windows'. The first two paragraphs read-

'Our games here at Bethesda Game Studios are complex, sprawling epics with layers of systems, reams of data, stunning art and audio and hours upon hours of fun made by our talented creators of all stripes. Underlying all of that is thousands upon thousands of lines of source code to make it all go, from editing gameplay data to exporting and placing art to actually running the game itself on one of several platforms.

This makes for lots of challenges, and among those challenges is the shifting sands of years of development by dozens of programmers. In the sixteen years since we released The Elder Scrolls: Arena, there have been a lot of changes in the ways games are made (and in the sizes of teams needed to make them) and choices that made sense on the PC-only market we started sometimes make less sense in the light of changing times. Taking this with the constant influx of gameplay, art, and code to a running game in development, one of the biggest hidden risks is “Broken Windows”.

(My emphasis)

The description in bold sounds exactly like what we would hope and expect ES V to be. Note also that the article is written in the present (or possibly the present continuous) tense. Although the two paragraphs don't exactly say so outright I read it as saying that Bethesda Game Studios are actively developing a game that is a' complex, sprawling epic with layers of systems, reams of data, stunning art and audio and hours upon hours of fun'. I suppose it could be Fallout 4 but ES V seems much more likely. this is hardly earth shattering news, after all BSG must have been doing something all this time, but it's nice to have it (sort of) confirmed.

Finally a question; I see that Zenimax, Bethesda and gamesas are all LLCs, ie limited liability companies. Does anyone know whether US LLCs are required to submit accounts that are in the public domain? if so, has anyone tried to follow this up? A good look at some sets of accounts could tell us a lot about what the companies are currently working on, and where there future revenue streams are likely to come from.

[W E I R D]

I've been following this thread, with mild bemusemant for a few weeks now. I'm astonished how the tiniest scrap of (mis)information can be leveraged into something huge by a one word reply to a magazine questionnaire.

My understanding of the whole Famitsu deal is that gamesas replied 'secret' to a question on whether the company had any surprises in store for E3. This was somehow turned into the belief that gamesas had a secret surprise. It is nothing of the sort, it is simply a refusal to say whether they had a surprise or not. This is entirely in keeping with gamesas's long term policy and means absolutely nothing, not a surprise, a secret surprise or indeed a secret secret. It doesn't even mean that gamesas has a 'secret'. They are just not saying anything.

On the other hand I take comfort from the Bethblog article on 'Broken Windows'. The first two paragraphs read-

'Our games here at Bethesda Game Studios are complex, sprawling epics with layers of systems, reams of data, stunning art and audio and hours upon hours of fun made by our talented creators of all stripes. Underlying all of that is thousands upon thousands of lines of source code to make it all go, from editing gameplay data to exporting and placing art to actually running the game itself on one of several platforms.

This makes for lots of challenges, and among those challenges is the shifting sands of years of development by dozens of programmers. In the sixteen years since we released The Elder Scrolls: Arena, there have been a lot of changes in the ways games are made (and in the sizes of teams needed to make them) and choices that made sense on the PC-only market we started sometimes make less sense in the light of changing times. Taking this with the constant influx of gameplay, art, and code to a running game in development, one of the biggest hidden risks is “Broken Windows”.

(My emphasis)

The description in bold sounds exactly like what we would hope and expect ES V to be. Note also that the article is written in the present (or possibly the present continuous) tense. Although the two paragraphs don't exactly say so outright I read it as saying that Bethesda Game Studios are actively developing a game that is a' complex, sprawling epic with layers of systems, reams of data, stunning art and audio and hours upon hours of fun'. I suppose it could be Fallout 4 but ES V seems much more likely. this is hardly earth shattering news, after all BSG must have been doing something all this time, but it's nice to have it (sort of) confirmed.

Finally a question; I see that Zenimax, Bethesda and gamesas are all LLCs, ie limited liability companies. Does anyone know whether US LLCs are required to submit accounts that are in the public domain? if so, has anyone tried to follow this up? A good look at some sets of accounts could tell us a lot about what the companies are currently working on, and where there future revenue streams are likely to come from.

The short answer is no they do not have to publicly share any information; however it does not prevent them from having their internal revenue streams brought into the court system where it would thus appear for public review.

[Rebecca Clare Smith]

So apparently Elder Scrolls V is in advanced development

[Roanne Bardsley]

Here it will be fruitful to take a step back and examine the E3 rumors, whether you believe them, want to believe them or think they are bunk. Remember that every single game franchise ever created has its own fanbase and a speculated but unannounced title has forums ardently searching for rumors of an E3 appearance, some games with better reasons than others. The famitsu rumor and the timeline are more pros than most franchises have, but Pete saying that there won't be any new announcements is damning. I mean, they could theoretically do it t the Microsoft and Sony conference and therefore not announce at their booth, but still.

I guess all we can do now is wait.

[SHAWNNA-KAY]

i'm not sure that any weight should be placed on rumors by some italian game site (or any american game site) unless specific names are given. i could send IGN an email saying that i know someone at bethesda and that Sky Rim is really a flight sim they are making, and IGN are likely to believe me (or they would if it sounded a wee bit more plausible ). its not going to make it true, though. the journalists are fans, and, like us, they are grasping at any straws they can get.

[Michelle Chau]

i'm not sure that any weight should be placed on rumors by some italian game site (or any american game site) unless specific names are given. i could send IGN an email saying that i know someone at bethesda and that Sky Rim is really a flight sim they is making, and IGN are likely to believe me (or they would if it sounded a wee bit more plausible ). its not going to make it true, though. the journalists are fans, and, like us, they are grasping at any straws they can get.

Yep. Us, them and every other gaming fan on the internet for any franchise imaginable. I'm sure there's a "Pong 2" crowd somewhere, even, expecting to see it at the Nintendo conference. Really, pre-E3 is the time for unreliable rumors.You wouldn't believe all the Zelda rumors on the internet, from a time-travelling sword to direct Majora's Mask sequel to some kind of spear weapon, when nothing is actually confirmed aside from "hey it'll be at E3."

[Arnold Wet]

The temptations are becoming too much... Was it like this last year?

[Lil'.KiiDD]

The temptations are becoming too much... Was it like this last year?

It was but not for TESV, it was just too soon after Fallout 3. I am a fan of many games and there were a lot of gamers looking for surprises, and many didn't come true sadly.

[Lily Something]

It was but not for TESV, it was just too soon after Fallout 3. I am a fan of many games and there were a lot of gamers looking for surprises, and many didn't come true sadly.

It was, like this year looks to be, a good year for Nintendo fans though.

Hey, easiest way to get banned on this forum! Just start a thread saying "TESV Announced!" And inside have nothing but "Gotcha!"

[Makenna Nomad]

Hey, easiest way to get banned on this forum! Just start a thread saying "TESV Announced!" And inside have nothing but "Gotcha!"

Interestingly enough we had a thread just like that today or yesterday I think, the dumb fellow used the thread to bash our precious moderators, especially Leydenne, I can't believe anyone could bash someone with such an adorable cat avatar :wacko:

Back on-topic, I really want to question the credibility of this Famitsu site, I mean no one has heard anything (emphasis on anything) from Beth about E3 except the official line-up, with more than a 100 comments, wouldn't they post something like "We have a secret at E3" on the Bethblog, rather than a Japanese Magazine? Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against them leaking secret news to a magazine, but wouldn't this 'reveal' of a secret be nearer to one of their bases i.e. Europe or America. Something just sounds wrong about the whole Famitsu deal, maybe its my inner prejudice against almost every single gaming site/article, but I don't trust them :stare:

EDIT: Wow, I didn't know that word was censored! Interestingly enough it just means annoying, next thing you know 'darn' will be censored :blink:

[The Time Car]

Interestingly enough we had a thread just like that today or yesterday I think, the dumb fellow used the thread to bash our precious moderators, especially Leydenne, I can't believe anyone could bash someone with such an adorable cat avatar :wacko:

Back on-topic, I really want to question the credibility of this Famitsu site, I mean no one has heard anything (emphasis on anything) from Beth about E3 except the official line-up, with more than a 100 comments, wouldn't they post something like "We have a secret at E3" on the Bethblog, rather than a Japanese Magazine? Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against them leaking secret news to a magazine, but wouldn't this 'reveal' of a secret be nearer to one of their bases i.e. Europe or America. Something just sounds wrong about the whole Famitsu deal, maybe its my inner prejudice against almost every single gaming site/article, but I don't trust them :stare:

EDIT: Wow, I didn't know that word was censored! Interestingly enough it just means annoying, next thing you know 'darn' will be censored :blink:

I feel your sentiment towards skepticism, especially with a relatively unknown (in the Western world at least) gaming magazine. I have been doing a lot of reading on Famitsu since this poll, and found out that there are incredibly reputable, and in fact are quite well known for leaking information that does turn out to be true (usually just days before an official release). Many times they are so in depth and detailed with their leaks that one could almost make the argument that they have positioned themselves as an "early info release" mechanism.

Here is a good example of what I mean:

http://www.ff14news.com/2010/04/07/famitsu-leak-of-april-22-magazine/

On the other side though, what this is and what they have done are two separate realms. Normally what they give out is VERY specific details, not vague responses, yet what hold true in both circumstances is that they do have sound foundations for any information that they publish, regardless of the level of depth. At the very least we can know that in regards to the question, Bethesda is keeping their presentation plans close to their chest, much as they have always done with every morsel of information they have ever had.

I will say that Pete is one suspicious fellow (all marketing people tend to be a little suspect), but he had been very clear in his recent statements regarding E3. He will either prove to be the conspiracy theorists' final validation by lying through his teeth and we'll see TESV at E3 or he'll have remained steadfast in his remarks and we'll witness only the published titles mentioned earlier in the week... just over a week and we'll see.

[Matt Bigelow]

Interestingly enough we had a thread just like that today or yesterday I think, the dumb fellow used the thread to bash our precious moderators, especially Leydenne, I can't believe anyone could bash someone with such an adorable cat avatar :wacko:

Back on-topic, I really want to question the credibility of this Famitsu site, I mean no one has heard anything (emphasis on anything) from Beth about E3 except the official line-up, with more than a 100 comments, wouldn't they post something like "We have a secret at E3" on the Bethblog, rather than a Japanese Magazine? Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against them leaking secret news to a magazine, but wouldn't this 'reveal' of a secret be nearer to one of their bases i.e. Europe or America. Something just sounds wrong about the whole Famitsu deal, maybe its my inner prejudice against almost every single gaming site/article, but I don't trust them :stare:

EDIT: Wow, I didn't know that word was censored! Interestingly enough it just means annoying, next thing you know 'darn' will be censored :blink:

Famitsu had a survey for companies about any surprises they might have for E3, gamesas just happened to put down "secret" is all, Famitsu didnt go around telling people gamesas had anything to announce, gamers did that. Questioning the credibility of a magazine just cause they took a survey seems kinda ignorant imo. Its the players that blew it out of proportion not Famitsu.

As far as I read thats what happened. And thats all, lets move on its no big deal sheesh lol.

[Kyra]

Interestingly enough we had a thread just like that today or yesterday I think, the dumb fellow used the thread to bash our precious moderators, especially Leydenne, I can't believe anyone could bash someone with such an adorable cat avatar :wacko:

Back on-topic, I really want to question the credibility of this Famitsu site, I mean no one has heard anything (emphasis on anything) from Beth about E3 except the official line-up, with more than a 100 comments, wouldn't they post something like "We have a secret at E3" on the Bethblog, rather than a Japanese Magazine? Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against them leaking secret news to a magazine, but wouldn't this 'reveal' of a secret be nearer to one of their bases i.e. Europe or America. Something just sounds wrong about the whole Famitsu deal, maybe its my inner prejudice against almost every single gaming site/article, but I don't trust them :stare:

EDIT: Wow, I didn't know that word was censored! Interestingly enough it just means annoying, next thing you know 'darn' will be censored :blink:

Well, that along with 2ch are Japanese groups who, at least a few times, actually have been spot-on with E3 rumors. Not every time, not by a long shot, but enough. famitsu has this, 2ch had the Zelda rumors.

But I think pre-E3 rumors are really just for fun, anyways.

[herrade]

I have been doing a lot of reading on Famitsu since this poll, and found out that there are incredibly reputable, and in fact are quite well known for leaking information that does turn out to be true (usually just days before an official release).

Famitsu is indeed very reputable. It's the Japanese version of Game Informer, if you want a similar comparison.

I still think your earlier comment about Bethesda's answer to the poll being a 'no comment' is the most likely situation here. Bethesda rarely ever reveal information when asked, instead revealing it themselves when they're ready. Famitsu ask Bethesda if they have a surprise in store for E3, Bethesda reply with 'no comment' (as seems to be their company policy), and Famitsu record it as being a secret. Don't read that as Bethesda have a secret for E3, but that Bethesda are being secretive about E3. The same way they are secretive about everything!

Famitsu's article doesn't change a thing. It revealed nothing, since they got no information from Bethesda.

[Danel]

Famitsu's article doesn't change a thing. It revealed nothing, since they got no information from Bethesda.

Well, it does hype E3 a little, little bit, no?

[Lalla Vu]

we'll find out in about 10 days, i guess...