[Hilm Music]

im not really expecting the surprise ijust hope something big happens

I'm surely hopeful as well - just as hopeful as getting the announcement tomorrow...and the next day...and the next...

[Angela]

yes anything can happen any day.

[Nathan Maughan]

I second that.

EDIT:@LoveIsReal
Pshh...Pete Hines...Todd Howards hairdo could dropshot Pete Hines in the face.

But... Pete Hines is so innocent looking... You know there's nothing up his sleeve but there might be!!!

[alicia hillier]

Does Bethesda really want that to happen? Disappointing their fans isn't exactly the best move...

That is why they sent Hines out to say that E3 is not the place they want to announce big new games. They are setting expectations low so fans don't get their hopes up too high. Its clearly not working.

I mean, I would love an announcment too, and I'll jump up in the air and click my heels if they do surprise us, but at this point, with all the signs and portents that have been revealed, I am not expecting anything.

[Cesar Gomez]

I posted this in the New Vegas forum but I figure I might as well post it here too as it has to do with TES V development:

Woah, woah! 2014? That's a seven year gap, not a five or three year gap. Fallout 3 came out in 2008, more than likely FO4 will be 2012. New Vegas acts as a sort of "middle-ground" for the Fallout fans in between FO3 and FO4. But I think that TES V and FO4 will be developed by two separate teams, similar to what Obsidian did with Alpha Protocol and New Vegas.

But they're not going to stop making TES games for a very long time. It's a very successful series of games, and it's barely even touched the myths and lore of the realm of Tamriel. While Arena did traverse the entire continent, it was basically tiny dungeons, and Daggerfall really only encompassed the Iliac Bay. Morrowind only really encompassed the Isle of Vvardenfell, which was an island enclaved by the actual province of Morrowind, and Oblivion only encompassed the province of Cyrodiil, the heartland of Tamriel. They've still got Elsweyr, Black Marsh, the actual province of Morrowind and not just the Isle of Vvardenfell, Skyrim, High Rock, Hammerfell, Summerset Isles, and Valenwood.

So they still have a LOT to cover, and trust me, with it being not only their most successful series of games, but also the same series that landed them in the big lots, they're not going to let The Elder Scrolls go for a very, very long time (and that makes me happy. :laugh: ).

Seven year gap? You mean 6. 2008+6= 2014. I'd be extremely surprised if they released Fallout 4 in 2012, for a lot of reasons. For one, it's so close to when TES V is likely to come out. I participate in the TES V Speculation thread over in TES General, and I made http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1795/timeline11.png chart for it, detailing how long Bethesda's games take to make. As you can see, Oblivion took about 4 years, and Fallout 3 took a little more than 4 years. However, Oblivion had a little more than 2 years of development time all by itself before they started working on Fallout 3, and Fallout 3 also only had about 2 years of development time by itself. In other words both Oblivion and Fallout 3 had head starts in their development, those Fallout 3's came after 2 years of them working on Oblivion. However TES V has likely been in development since 2006, and it's clear that working on it alongside Fallout 3 and it's expansions have prolonged the development, as is obvious by the more than 4 years since 2006. My suspicion is that if it takes them this long to make TES V while working on other projects, it will take just as long to make Fallout 4. Bethesda's games usually come out 1-2 years after their announcement, so TES V will likely be released in 2011-2012 if it's announced soon, which it likely will (due to their trademarks expiring, but you can ask about that in the Speculation thread if you're curious). If Fallout 3 takes a similar amount of time, we wind up with a release date of 2013-2014, if nothing delays it.

Phew, that was long. Yeah, that's why I think what I do. You don't have to agree with me, but that's just how I see it.

Does anyone see any holes in my theory? Of course the theory will have to be adjusted if they don't announce TES V this year, or if they started working on TES V later than 2006, or if they're not working on TES V at all and are instead working on the much anticipated Where's Waldo 2: The Striped Shirt Conspiracy. I don't want each Bethesda game to take 5-6 years to be released but from everything I've seen that seems like that's how it's going to be for TES V and Fallout 4 at least.

[Damian Parsons]

I posted this in the New Vegas forum but I figure I might as well post it here too as it has to do with TES V development:



Does anyone see any holes in my theory? Of course the theory will have to be adjusted if they don't announce TES V this year, or if they started working on TES V later than 2006, or if they're not working on TES V at all and are instead working on the much anticipated Where's Waldo 2: The Striped Shirt Conspiracy. I don't want each Bethesda game to take 5-6 years to be released but from everything I've seen that seems like that's how it's going to be for TES V and Fallout 4 at least.

I don't see anything wrong with what you said, it just is like all speculation, dependent on what we don't know... so all your "ifs" (and I must say, I have been as eager as anyone for the Where's Waldo sequel... I was recently arrested for breaking into an apartment complex because I swear I saw some kid with glasses blending into the decor) I think you are about as reasonable in your FO4 speculation as one can be these days.

[Darren Chandler]

I don't see anything wrong with what you said, it just is like all speculation, dependent on what we don't know... so all your "ifs" (and I must say, I have been as eager as anyone for the Where's Waldo sequel... I was recently arrested for breaking into an apartment complex because I swear I saw some kid with glasses blending into the decor) I think you are about as reasonable in your FO4 speculation as one can be these days.

Hopefully when TES V is announced Bethesda will reveal they've only been working on it since 2007 or 2008, because that would mean my estimation of 5-6 years would be reduced quite a bit. As it stands I don't expect Fallout 4 until 2014 which means I will have likely graduated college before then. And I'm only starting this month! That's depressing.

[maddison]

I posted this in the New Vegas forum but I figure I might as well post it here too as it has to do with TES V development:



Does anyone see any holes in my theory? Of course the theory will have to be adjusted if they don't announce TES V this year, or if they started working on TES V later than 2006, or if they're not working on TES V at all and are instead working on the much anticipated Where's Waldo 2: The Striped Shirt Conspiracy. I don't want each Bethesda game to take 5-6 years to be released but from everything I've seen that seems like that's how it's going to be for TES V and Fallout 4 at least.

I don't want to sound like I'm bashing FO3, but if they spent four years with their ENTIRE team working on that game, they did an awful job. It would make sense to me if they had two teams the whole time. People would be writing the story and reworking the engine for TESV while FO3 was being worked on by the others. Please note that the work on TESV would've started AFTER Oblivion's release in 2006. However, they could have added story and plans for the next game while they worked on Oblivion, it just would have been set aside or something.

[Alexis Estrada]

I don't want to sound like I'm bashing FO3, but if they spent four years with their ENTIRE team working on that game, they did an awful job. It would make sense to me if they had two teams the whole time. People would be writing the story and reworking the engine for TESV while FO3 was being worked on by the others. Please note that the work on TESV would've started AFTER Oblivion's release in 2006. However, they could have added story and plans for the next game while they worked on Oblivion, it just would have been set aside or something.

Didn't you read my post? Both Oblivion and Fallout 3 had 2 years worth of development by themselves, if you don't count Oblivion's DLC, and about 4 years total. So no, it didn't have 4 years of development by the entire team. If you count development of TES V, then it was never developed by itself. But this is 2010 right now and we still have no TES V, meaning developing Fallout 3 and planning Fallout 4 has taken a huge toll on the development of TES V.

And for the record I thought Fallout 3 was absolutely amazing, and think Bethesda did a great job.

[Naomi Ward]

Didn't you read my post? Both Oblivion and Fallout 3 had 2 years worth of development by themselves, if you don't count Oblivion's DLC, and about 4 years total. So no, it didn't have 4 years of development by the entire team. If you count development of TES V, then it was never developed by itself. But this is 2010 right now and we still have no TES V, meaning developing Fallout 3 and planning Fallout 4 has taken a huge toll on the development of TES V.

And for the record I thought Fallout 3 was absolutely amazing, and think Bethesda did a great job.

I did read your post and I failed to refer back to it in my post at all... Fallout 3 I did not feel gave me the openness and roleplaying ability that I get in Elder Scrolls. It was an FPS to me, no more.

On the production information, if Bethesda has been working on TESV since 2006 and we lack even an announcement... I am kind of disappointed. If they truly invested all of that work into Fallout 3, I feel like they wasted their time. If they have been working since 2006, the game should be amazing if released 2011/2012. If they have been working on it since 2008, then it should be amazing if released 2011/2012. A game won't be much better five years from start than three to four if you ask me. Look at Call Of Duty, popping out games from each company two years after the other.

Edit: Duke Nukem Forever... Just... It would have to be so freaking amazing at this point I would eat my shirt.

[Rachie Stout]

I did read your post and I failed to refer back to it in my post at all... Fallout 3 I did not feel gave me the openness and roleplaying ability that I get in Elder Scrolls. It was an FPS to me, no more.

On the production information, if Bethesda has been working on TESV since 2006 and we lack even an announcement... I am kind of disappointed. If they truly invested all of that work into Fallout 3, I feel like they wasted their time. If they have been working since 2006, the game should be amazing if released 2011/2012. If they have been working on it since 2008, then it should be amazing if released 2011/2012. A game won't be much better five years from start than three to four if you ask me. Look at Call Of Duty, popping out games from each company two years after the other.

Edit: Duke Nukem Forever... Just... It would have to be so freaking amazing at this point I would eat my shirt.

Well, you may have missed the wonderful fun amazing stories as well as the plethora of choices that FO3 had to offer. I am a big FPS fan too though, so I doubly loved this game, but to say that it was an FPS and "no more" seems to detract a bit from the work that went in to creating the stories that built the world. A standard FPS can be churned out in a couple of years because they tend to lack the depth that BGS games require (and most are not open-world). The dev time has to include the storyline aspects. I feel this has become more about FO4 than TESV, so that is all I am going to say about that

[Sabrina garzotto]

I'm starting to think there will never be a TESV. My hopes have been too high for too long.

[Sammygirl500]

To take this out of the possibility of becoming a new suggestions thread... TESV wi11 |o3 0|_|t 2m0rr0w r1t3?
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[Gemma Flanagan]

I think the reason for why Bethesda has been so "secretive" about their games and possible announcement of TESV is because they are not sure yet when they are going to announce it. They know they have a deadline but that's about it. Remember, Pete didn't say there was no chance of bethesda announcing a game at E3. He said anything is possible but very unlikely for their game to be announced.

[Zach Hunter]

So they're basically creating the game, but not telling us?

[Enny Labinjo]

So they're basically creating the game, but not telling us?

This pretty much sums up as much as we know.

[sally coker]

The thing that confused me the most was their announcement for 2010.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/bethesda_elder_scrolls_v_arrive_2010

[remi lasisi]

The thing that confused me the most was their announcement for 2010.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/bethesda_elder_scrolls_v_arrive_2010

That's not a direct announcement by them, but an assumption more like. We don't expect a 2010 release anymore, just an announcement.

[Red Bevinz]

That's not a direct announcement by them, but an assumption more like. We don't expect a 2010 release anymore, just an announcement.

Baaah. Darned wordplay.

[Neil]

Look at Call Of Duty, popping out games from each company two years after the other.

CoD is a much smaller and more limited game than any Elder Scrolls title. every single dynamic -- from walking to alchemy to quests -- has to be designed, implemented, and tested, and TES has a lot of dynamics. It takes a lot of time to finish a model, level, or script even if you're a professional working 8 hours a day.

[Albert Wesker]

I love the Elder Scrolls, but I admit to not reading ALL the suggestions.

I would like more romance. Really I get lonely out there. My female's appreciate the mods out there but she wants it from the game.

I know U.S censorship is harsh but fable 2 made it thru it. Let me fall in love and have someone to come home to.

Thanks and back to whatever you guys were discussing.

[Carlitos Avila]

I love the Elder Scrolls, but I admit to not reading ALL the suggestions.

I would like more romance. Really I get lonely out there. My female's appreciate the mods out there but she wants it from the game.

I know U.S censorship is harsh but fable 2 made it thru it. Let me fall in love and have someone to come home to.

Thanks and back to whatever you guys were discussing.

I'd show you the right thread to post your suggestion in but it seems you already noticed it. So... never mind.

[Jeneene Hunte]

I'd show you the right thread to post your suggestion in but it seems you already noticed it. So... never mind.

yeah I screwed up. But can I say I speculate that they will have romance in Skyrim?

[jessica breen]

What do you guys think a realistic release date for tes V is?

2011, 2012,2013?

[Harinder Ghag]

http://www.vg247.com/2010/06/03/rumour-bethesda-arming-elder-scrolls-v-announcement-for-e3/

It is coming, in a few weeks.

Or at least I think.