Official TES V Speculation Thread

Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:14 pm

The last thing I want Bethesda to do is pull an Oblivion and remove all the ice like they did with Cyrodiil's jungles. What's the point of having lore on different places if they're just going to throw it away every time they make a game there.

I figure the lore they have is pretty much placeholder lore, to be refined when they focus on individual provinces down the line. True, Cyrodiil's had a massive overhaul, but you can't deny it makes the world more believable and immersive as a result. The other thing to consider is that Skyrim isn't all snow and ice, and so although there will undoubtedly be some http://www.therealfun.com/wallpapers/Fantasy_Desktop_10818.jpg, there will be other climates and horizons to view.

It's also fairly evident that TES lore is written to be debated, just like real life lore. Far too many people assume that just because it is written, it must be true, because TES is just a game series and couldn't possibly have that much depth. Who's to say that Cyrodiil wasn't always grassland and forest, and that those jungles have become a popularized religious story? That's why 'lore changes' in this series can work, and why I love these games so much. I don't believe Noah actually gathered two of every animal in the world and crammed them on an ark, so why I should believe that "The planets are the gods and the planes of the gods, which is the same thing. That they appear as spherical heavenly bodies is a visual phenomena caused by mortal mental stress." and other pieces of lore, when all scientific evidence says otherwise. People's beliefs, and lore in general, just realistically reflects the technological limits of the time.
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:12 pm

@ xXAntibodyXx:

Thanks for the explanation, the whole thing makes more sense now :)

So, in essence, it's highly likely we'll hear something about 'a' Skyrim project, even if it's not TESV (unless they decide to do nothing with the trademark at all). But that doesn't necessarily make it the game Bethesda - as a developer - is working on. For all we know, 'Skyrim' could be whatever the online-team is working on, then? (a little far-fetched, but still a possibility)
Having said that, I sincerely hope we'll hear something about the development of TESV this year.
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:18 pm

hmmm.... well tomorrow is April's Fools day. Maybe Bethesda could make a joke about Elder Scrolls. That an announcement is coming soon. But actually it isnt a joke, and a real thing. It would be a very cool way to get us pumped for TESV!
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:08 pm

hmmm.... well tomorrow is April's Fools day. Maybe Bethesda could make a joke about Elder Scrolls. That an announcement is coming soon. But actually it isnt a joke, and a real thing. It would be a very cool way to get us pumped for TESV!

Or make us very confused.
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:15 pm

At least if Skyrim does turn out to be frozen waste it will be plausible excuse for the lack of wildlife. It always bugged me that there weren't more animals (just normal, non threatening ones) running around the jungles of Cyrodil. Of course, when you've daedra and bandits everywhere, I suppose you could say they ate all the swamp critters...
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:52 pm

So, in essence, it's highly likely we'll hear something about 'a' Skyrim project, even if it's not TESV (unless they decide to do nothing with the trademark at all). But that doesn't necessarily make it the game Bethesda - as a developer - is working on. For all we know, 'Skyrim' could be whatever the online-team is working on, then? (a little far-fetched, but still a possibility)
Having said that, I sincerely hope we'll hear something about the development of TESV this year.


Your reasoning is correct, but I want to add a clarification to your statement. Zenimax Online and Bethesda Game Studios are two completely separate teams that are both owned by Zenimax Media. Bethesda Game Studios is what will make TES:V, and they will NOT make an MMO. "Skyrim" could potentially be the name of Zenimax Online's game, especially if the TES MMO rumor is true, but I don't believe this for two reasons:

1. Past TES titles (except Arena) were named from a province, region, or geographic location and "Skyrim" is the name of a province.
2. We really have no credible reason to believe that Zenimax Online is making a TES game. The rumored court documents are neither conclusive nor convincing.
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:35 pm

I also find it unlikely that Skyrim is the Zenimax MMO, because Skyrim was trademarked in late 2006. I believe that was before Zenimax Online was even formed.
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Post » Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:16 am

I also find it unlikely that Skyrim is the Zenimax MMO, because Skyrim was trademarked in late 2006. I believe that was before Zenimax Online was even formed.


Yep, they only started working in 2007 (according to their website).
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:11 pm

And skyrim seems a bit small for an MMO. Unless they plan on adding a new province each expansion
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:32 pm

I also find it unlikely that Skyrim is the Zenimax MMO, because Skyrim was trademarked in late 2006. I believe that was before Zenimax Online was even formed.



Yep, they only started working in 2007 (according to their website).



And skyrim seems a bit small for an MMO. Unless they plan on adding a new province each expansion



Agreed. Now let's please allow this MMO talk to die and not encourage the inevitable off-topic remarks.
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:32 pm

Agreed. Now let's please allow this MMO talk to die and not encourage the inevitable off-topic remarks.

On another note #3: Tomorrow is April Fools day... I think we're going to get like... 400 fake announcements for games from a ton of companies :D
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:07 am

On another note #3: Tomorrow is April Fools day... I think we're going to get like... 400 fake announcements for games from a ton of companies :D


...or 400 announcement threads from uncreative members. Tomorrow's gonna be a long day. :rolleyes:
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:46 pm

Check the UESP:
TESV Announced at Last ? April 1st, 2010
Bethesda Softworks announced today, April 1, that the next version of The Elder Scrolls series, the long-awaited TESV, will be a retro game.
Bethesda spokesperson Opal Firlo announced that the next game would revisit "Pacman" - the popular franchise from the 80's, and abandon typical RPG elements in favor of choices such as "flap or oil", which would see the protagonist flying out of harm's way or oiling themselves to slide out of an enemy's grasp.
In addition, a geography element will be added to the game - a player will be able to select the "Polar if lo" option to head back to a base at one of the antipodes if seriously damaged. This reviewer found a cheat mode to finish the game: typing "I All Proof" will prevent the character from dying, but if the player can find the "Poor Flail" or can dive into the "Flair Pool", that shouldn't be an issue.
from UESP's roving reporter Olaf Pirlo

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I do know that it's a prank, but I find it funny.

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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:29 pm

...or 400 announcement threads from uncreative members. Tomorrow's gonna be a long day. :rolleyes:


Definitely. I have a feeling this thread alone will be full of people giving us links to "announcements."
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:04 pm

Definitely. I have a feeling this thread alone will be full of people giving us links to "announcements."

Oh jeezzzzzzzzzz... Here comes the screamers!
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Post » Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:29 am

screamers? and check my spoiler; I'm smartenough to agree with you about the fake anouncments.
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:00 pm

...or 400 announcement threads from uncreative members. Tomorrow's gonna be a long day. :rolleyes:


you mean a FUN day! haha, just kidding. B)
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:24 pm

For all we know, 'Skyrim' could be whatever the online-team is working on, then? (a little far-fetched, but still a possibility)

I thought the same thing, but then ThatOneGuy linked trademarks and pointed out that the MMO games had different uses listed to the Skyrim trademark: i.e. uses for online play, etc. This isn't worded very well, but I can't be bothered using the awful search feature to find it. (And before I get jumped on, this isn't off-topic. :stare:)
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Post » Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:16 am

Hopefully now that the Testing your knowledge is done they will announce elder scrolls V sometime soon.
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:33 pm

Hopefully now that the Testing your knowledge is done they will announce elder scrolls V sometime soon.

GStaff already said that it wasn't leading up to anything :(
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:46 am

It's coming out in Fall 2010, and it's almost guaranteed that TES V wont be coming out in the fall, regardless of New Vegas. They haven't even announced TES V yet, so they certainly aren't going to release it in only a few months.

If and when they announce it this year, and they don't show it at this years E3, the earliest date they'll release it is Fall 2011, because they still have to show it at at least one E3. And it will only come out in Fall 2011 if it isn't delayed. If it is delayed, then it could come out any time during 2012.


That was my point.

1. Bethesda gives us the release time of New Vegas as Fall 2010.
2.Likelihood of announcing Oblivion before then? I'd say that's almost zero.
3.Most likely announcement with spacing away from New Vegas would be Spring 2011.
4.Giving another 6 months optimisitically, Winter (Christmas 2011) . I doubt it though, which takes us to Spring 2012.

We could be sitting 1.5 to 2 years out.
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:31 pm

That was my point.

1. Bethesda gives us the release time of New Vegas as Fall 2010.
2.Likelihood of announcing Oblivion before then? I'd say that's almost zero.
3.Most likely announcement with spacing away from New Vegas would be Spring 2011.
4.Giving another 6 months optimisitically, Winter (Christmas 2011) . I doubt it though, which takes us to Spring 2012.

We could be sitting 1.5 to 2 years out.


Oblivion TES:V

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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:20 pm

That was my point.

1. Bethesda gives us the release time of New Vegas as Fall 2010.
2.Likelihood of announcing Oblivion before then? I'd say that's almost zero.
3.Most likely announcement with spacing away from New Vegas would be Spring 2011.
4.Giving another 6 months optimisitically, Winter (Christmas 2011) . I doubt it though, which takes us to Spring 2012.

We could be sitting 1.5 to 2 years out.


What? Why would they wait months after New Vegas to announce it? New Vegas is a game they're publishing, not developing, and an announcement even a week before New Vegas was released wouldn't interfere with it. I think you're seriously overestimating how much an announcement would clash with the New Vegas release.
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:26 pm

Agreed, I don't think the announcement of TES being under development would impact any of the other titles currently in the works. If you're talking about release dates, well, that would be another thing entirely. I don't think they'd release two of their own (as in: IP's owned by their parent company) rpg's too close together for fear of them stealing each other's thunder. Keeping that in mind: does anyone know how long New Vegas has been under development? Particularly, whether or not they started working on it sooner or later as Bethesda started working on their new and unknown project. The argument being here that both projects might be of the same order of scale and thus might have comparable dev-cycles. Figuring out which of the similar projects is bound to come to completion earlier might give rise to speculation about Bethesda's launch windows (or however you'd like to call it).

Or maybe I'm just reaching and this thread and it's lines of thought are getting to me :)
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Post » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:04 pm

I forsee Rick Roll..
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