[xx_Jess_xx]

If you guys HONESTLY think new game systems are coming out within the next few years, you're all dead wrong. The xbox 360, and ps3 are only just starting to reach their full potential, I mean have you seen Rage on the 360? It's the best graphics I've literally ever seen, and the frame rate is ridiculous. Consoles are only halfway through this generation, and I'm giving the xbox and ps3 a good 6-7 more years before a new console generation, it's not like we have a way to keep magically getting better graphics, it's like getting a highend graphics card for your computer, once you get good enough card, there really isn't that big of a difference between a $400 card and a $300 card. I'm just saying it'll be atleast 10 years before we see some new technology that'll be pretty much as good as it gets graphics wise. It'll mostly come down to the developers themselves on how good the graphics are.

Yeah, this wasn't a topic of current discussion, you might have posted in the wrong thread.

But yo, 6-7 years? Not going to happen - for one MS and Sony say another 5 years, and the concensus amoung games bloggers/journalists is that this generation probably has more like 3 years left in it, stretched by the Move/3D/Kinect stuff.

8bit, 16bit, and 32bit consoles had a 5 year lifecycle. If the economy hadn't gone south over the last few years, we would probably have been teased with the next gen this E3. The industry doesn't think people want to invest in all new hardware with the market being the way it is, so they are stretching this era out for a few extra years.

If it is 5 more holiday seasons before the next gen of consoles is availible for sales, I will excrete masonry material.

[Damian Parsons]

I want mah TES V!!!

[Ronald]

So, I'm wondering, if TESV is announced with the upcoming GI, just how crazy will this forum get?

Notice how there's suddenly dozens of new "what do you want in TES?" polls all of a sudden, now that a new TES is possibly about to be announced? I predict it would be like that, but much more intense.

[roxxii lenaghan]

So, I'm wondering, if TESV is announced with the upcoming GI, just how crazy will this forum get?

Well, by that time we will have a whole new TES5 forum. It will be several times crazier though.

We will have at least one thread per week for anything and everything that can be disliked in Oblivion. Issues that are common, such as leveling, will probably get a thread daily. There will also be many suggestions threads, despite the presence of a single official thread. Every sentence in the announcement will be anolyzed at least three times, doubly so for sentences that are vague or seem to suggest unpopular features. Any feature of the game will get a thread hailing it as the best thing ever, another thread saying that it svcks (likely with "dumbed down" and "because of consoles" coming up often), and another thread saying that its all hype. Screenshots will likewise be examined to determine where its taken, what is happening, the technology used to make it, whether it contradicts lore, and whether it will svck. Any time new news is released we will get roughly 5 threads about it on the day it is released and 10 threads in the weeks following. Quality of spelling and grammar are likely to decrease to half the current level, and the number of "omg tes5 i wants it" posts are going to at least double.

I pity the moderators and community managers.

[DarkGypsy]

Well, by that time we will have a whole new TES5 forum. It will be several times crazier though.

We will have at least one thread per week for anything and everything that can be disliked in Oblivion. Issues that are common, such as leveling, will probably get a thread daily. There will also be many suggestions threads, despite the presence of a single official thread. Every sentence in the announcement will be anolyzed at least three times, doubly so for sentences that are vague or seem to suggest unpopular features. Any feature of the game will get a thread hailing it as the best thing ever, another thread saying that it svcks (likely with "dumbed down" and "because of consoles" coming up often), and another thread saying that its all hype. Screenshots will likewise be examined to determine where its taken, what is happening, the technology used to make it, whether it contradicts lore, and whether it will svck. Any time new news is released we will get roughly 5 threads about it on the day it is released and 10 threads in the weeks following. Quality of spelling and grammar are likely to decrease to half the current level, and the number of "omg tes5 i wants it" posts are going to at least double.

I pity the moderators and community managers.

Where is everyone here going to be when all this happens?

[JUan Martinez]

Half of us will be degraded into squealing, drooling fans or their counterpart: the angry screaming fans. The other half will remain relatively sensible and try to carry on normal conversations. Most people will end up switching roles several times throughout the process.

All this has happened before, and it will happen again.

P.S. come on, is "fan boys" really that offensive?

[Enny Labinjo]

Where is everyone here going to be when all this happens?

^ Heh this guys new here we will all be camping outside of each and every Bethesda member's houses and watch them through their windows and have our laptops ready to look for announcements and post OMGOMGOMGTES5 in the forums.

[Kirsty Wood]

We will have at least one thread per week for anything and everything that can be disliked in Oblivion. Issues that are common, such as leveling, will probably get a thread daily.

That's fair enough though; after all, we've only had about 4 or 5 years of that, haven't we?

[Marlo Stanfield]

If you guys HONESTLY think new game systems are coming out within the next few years, you're all dead wrong. The xbox 360, and ps3 are only just starting to reach their full potential, I mean have you seen Rage on the 360? It's the best graphics I've literally ever seen, and the frame rate is ridiculous. Consoles are only halfway through this generation, and I'm giving the xbox and ps3 a good 6-7 more years before a new console generation, it's not like we have a way to keep magically getting better graphics, it's like getting a highend graphics card for your computer, once you get good enough card, there really isn't that big of a difference between a $400 card and a $300 card. I'm just saying it'll be atleast 10 years before we see some new technology that'll be pretty much as good as it gets graphics wise. It'll mostly come down to the developers themselves on how good the graphics are.

I think for the most part your right the numbers can't be nailed down but anyone developing hardware will tell you that the materials we have at our disposal are reaching capacity and the advances come slower than they did even 2 or 3 years ago so consoles are going to start having longer lives because advancements in technology come slower then they still have to be implemented in a gaming console form

[Cccurly]

One only has to look at the first few pages of the New Vegas forum to see what the forum will be like once TES V is announced. It will be completely chaotic, and even after a TES V forum is made every subforum (yes, even the Rogue Warrior forum) will have a "TES V ANNOUNCEDED OMGAWD" topic, and in more popular subforums the topics will be popping up over and over for at least a week after the announcement. And one only has to look at the New Vegas forum now to see what the TES V forum will be like, full of topics and posts that are riddled with spelling errors to the point where reading them is hard to do without laughing, and like the "original Fallout fans that hate Fallout 3" that roam the New Vegas forum, there will be tons of "Morrowind or earlier fans that bash Oblivion" members roaming the TES V forum criticizing Oblivion and how TES V better not be like it.

[Blaine]

P.S. come on, is "fan boys" really that offensive?

It's used as a term of abuse by members who wish to give offense. So that's why it's autocensored.

[Brian Newman]

One only has to look at the first few pages of the New Vegas forum to see what the forum will be like once TES V is announced. It will be completely chaotic, and even after a TES V forum is made every subforum (yes, even the Rogue Warrior forum) will have a "TES V ANNOUNCEDED OMGAWD" topic, and in more popular subforums the topics will be popping up over and over for at least a week after the announcement. And one only has to look at the New Vegas forum now to see what the TES V forum will be like, full of topics and posts that are riddled with spelling errors to the point where reading them is hard to do without laughing, and like the "original Fallout fans that hate Fallout 3" that roam the New Vegas forum, there will be tons of "Morrowind or earlier fans that bash Oblivion" members roaming the TES V forum criticizing Oblivion and how TES V better not be like it.

It'll bring back memories of when the Oblivion Forum first opened up. Ah, those were the days. ^_^

Mounted combat, capes and cloaks, arguing about whether it should be more like Daggerfall or Morrowind, throwing in absurd requests for the devs, ect... Not gonna lie, I've survived it once, and now I'm much older and wiser than I was back then. So I could make it through a new elder scrolls forum again. If anything, I would be more nostalgic than annoyed.

[Rudy Paint fingers]

It'll bring back memories of when the Oblivion Forum first opened up. Ah, those were the days. ^_^

Mounted combat, capes and cloaks, arguing about whether it should be more like Daggerfall or Morrowind, throwing in absurd requests for the devs, ect... Not gonna lie, I've survived it once, and now I'm much older and wiser than I was back then. So I could make it through a new elder scrolls forum again. If anything, I would be more nostalgic than annoyed.

That sounds fun.

I think Bethesda made a compromise. Oblivion is closer to Daggerfall than Morrowind, but is still like Morrowind in many ways. I wonder what TES V will be like.

[Jose ordaz]

It's going to be worse than the Oblivion launch. That was horrendous. I shudder to think...

[Lady Shocka]

It's going to be worse than the Oblivion launch. That was horrendous. I shudder to think...

What happened back then and why will it be worse this time?

[Ann Church]

I like this forum, been so long since a game was released that the people left all actually pretty much care what the next game is like. I wouldnt expect an announcement on TES V until Beth thinks its gotten the hype for its other published titles such as RAGE high enough. gamesas has alot of games bieng published with its name on it at the moment, so dont get hopes up too high until probably after Fallout comes out in October (a game easily associated with Beth after Fallout 3 came out). Hype has its limits and a fans attention span is about the size of a proton, so I would expect gamesas to do the wise thing and wait till its wrung all the publicity and cash out of the current titles before announcing the next big (and in mean absolutely massive) money maker that is TES V. Remember, after TES V is announced it's expected that there will be a sharp rise in sales of the previous titles still in stores, as well as any associated merch such as books. Since money is finite they dont want people saving money for a title that would be a long way off instead of buying the titles Beth has published for this season.

[Penny Wills]

gamesas has alot of games bieng published with its name on it at the moment, so dont get hopes up too high until probably after Fallout comes out in October

if/when they announce a new Elder Scrolls, it won't draw a noticeable amount of attention from FO:NV, Rage, or Brink, as it will be a new announcement where as these have been hyped for awhile. So unless they plan on releasing TES:V this year,(which would not only never happen, but be an all around awful marketing ploy) Bethesda's published games will not be affected anymore than normal... Besides, Bethesda Game Studios could announce/push TES:V while Bethesda Softworks pushes the others more-so for the time being.

edit- not to mention, you don't want all of your eggs in one basket, if you get what im saying in this circumstance.

[Arrogant SId]

I like this forum, been so long since a game was released that the people left all actually pretty much care what the next game is like. I wouldnt expect an announcement on TES V until Beth thinks its gotten the hype for its other published titles such as RAGE high enough. gamesas has alot of games bieng published with its name on it at the moment, so dont get hopes up too high until probably after Fallout comes out in October (a game easily associated with Beth after Fallout 3 came out). Hype has its limits and a fans attention span is about the size of a proton, so I would expect gamesas to do the wise thing and wait till its wrung all the publicity and cash out of the current titles before announcing the next big (and in mean absolutely massive) money maker that is TES V. Remember, after TES V is announced it's expected that there will be a sharp rise in sales of the previous titles still in stores, as well as any associated merch such as books. Since money is finite they dont want people saving money for a title that would be a long way off instead of buying the titles Beth has published for this season.

if/when they announce a new Elder Scrolls, it won't draw a noticeable amount of attention from FO:NV, Rage, or Brink, as it will be a new announcement where as these have been hyped for awhile. So unless they plan on releasing TES:V this year,(which would not only never happen, but be an all around awful marketing ploy) Bethesda's published games will not be affected anymore than normal... Besides, Bethesda Game Studios could announce/push TES:V while Bethesda Softworks pushes the others more-so for the time being.

edit- not to mention, you don't want all of your eggs in one basket, if you get what im saying in this circumstance.

To both of you: I don't think it's safe to rule out any possibility at this point, especially considering we still know nothing for certain about TESV. Everything's still up in the air - there's no way to be sure of what Bethesda's planning for this game. For example, while I personally think it's very likely that the next Game Informer issue the one to watch for a TESV announcement, I also recognize the possibility that it might not happen that way. I'm also pretty confident that, provided TESV is announced in next month's GI, Bethesda will be shooting for a release date in Q4 2010 or Q1 2011 (e.g. the first six months of 2011). However, whether I'm right or not, the one thing I do know for certain is that if there's one thing that we can't predict, it's the games industry. The best we can do is make educated guesses.

[Emmanuel Morales]

I still pray for a few things in the game:

- Horseback fighting
- Other mounts
- More clothing (boots, gloves, sheild, arms, shoulder, cape, briastplate, legs, helm, 4 total rings, etc
- A new race (a hybrid??? , possibly the synopsis for the game... evil lorg rugdomph the 2nd makes a Clannfear-orc)
- Spears/pole fighting
- knockback attacks,
- speaking character (self, in dialog)
- Foreign currency
- DX11!!!!!!!
- Graphics that bring dual 5970's to their knees (futureproof games FTW)
MUCH bigger world

[Melis Hristina]

I still pray for a few things in the game:

- Horseback fighting
- Other mounts
- More clothing (boots, gloves, sheild, arms, shoulder, cape, briastplate, legs, helm, 4 total rings, etc
- A new race (a hybrid??? , possibly the synopsis for the game... evil lorg rugdomph the 2nd makes a Clannfear-orc)
- Spears/pole fighting
- knockback attacks,
- speaking character (self, in dialog)
- Foreign currency
- DX11!!!!!!!
- Graphics that bring dual 5970's to their knees (futureproof games FTW)
MUCH bigger world

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1096483-tes-v-ideas-and-suggestions-168/page__st__140

[James Potter]

To both of you: I don't think it's safe to rule out any possibility at this point, especially considering we still know nothing for certain about TESV. Everything's still up in the air - there's no way to be sure of what Bethesda's planning for this game. For example, while I personally think it's very likely that the next Game Informer issue the one to watch for a TESV announcement, I also recognize the possibility that it might not happen that way. I'm also pretty confident that, provided TESV is announced in next month's GI, Bethesda will be shooting for a release date in Q4 2010 or Q1 2011 (e.g. the first six months of 2011). However, whether I'm right or not, the one thing I do know for certain is that if there's one thing that we can't predict, it's the games industry. The best we can do is make educated guesses.

we do know it's july or bust with the pending trademark expiration for Skyrim... if it expires, we have to wait for them to file another, and if i remember correctly that takes about 6 months to be fulfilled by itself.

[Bonnie Clyde]

I like this forum, been so long since a game was released that the people left all actually pretty much care what the next game is like. I wouldnt expect an announcement on TES V until Beth thinks its gotten the hype for its other published titles such as RAGE high enough. gamesas has alot of games bieng published with its name on it at the moment, so dont get hopes up too high until probably after Fallout comes out in October (a game easily associated with Beth after Fallout 3 came out). Hype has its limits and a fans attention span is about the size of a proton, so I would expect gamesas to do the wise thing and wait till its wrung all the publicity and cash out of the current titles before announcing the next big (and in mean absolutely massive) money maker that is TES V. Remember, after TES V is announced it's expected that there will be a sharp rise in sales of the previous titles still in stores, as well as any associated merch such as books. Since money is finite they dont want people saving money for a title that would be a long way off instead of buying the titles Beth has published for this season.

I would expect Bethesda to do the wise thing and not continually renew a Trademark (which costs money) only to let it drop.

[Tha King o Geekz]

I've got a TES5 related annecdote to share, second hand.

GamesRadar has a great (that is to say, filthy, drunken, and prone to wanter off topic) podcast called Talk Radar (or T-Dar), and a pair of their podcast crew got invited to Bethesda's E3 party, where they say they had alot of fun.

Now you gotta give it up for one of them, who says that late in this party, he pressed one of the gamesas people for TES5 information. Even late into a party, the person the T-Dar host was grilling gave up nothing (great message discipline on those guys), but I love that somebody litlerally tried to wring information out of a drunk staffer.

Oh what a scoop it could have been, but it seems the company is staffed by a bunch of http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Johnny_Tightlips clones.

[Lexy Dick]

They are under oath to remain silent.

[Rachel Tyson]

I like this forum, been so long since a game was released that the people left all actually pretty much care what the next game is like. I wouldnt expect an announcement on TES V until Beth thinks its gotten the hype for its other published titles such as RAGE high enough. gamesas has alot of games bieng published with its name on it at the moment, so dont get hopes up too high until probably after Fallout comes out in October (a game easily associated with Beth after Fallout 3 came out). Hype has its limits and a fans attention span is about the size of a proton, so I would expect gamesas to do the wise thing and wait till its wrung all the publicity and cash out of the current titles before announcing the next big (and in mean absolutely massive) money maker that is TES V. Remember, after TES V is announced it's expected that there will be a sharp rise in sales of the previous titles still in stores, as well as any associated merch such as books. Since money is finite they dont want people saving money for a title that would be a long way off instead of buying the titles Beth has published for this season.

Their new publishing approach is the one thing that makes me doubt (albeit only slightly) the reveal of TES:V in the next month. Not just because they might not want to steal the spotlight from the other dev's games that they are being kind enough to publish, but also because the revenue they make from these games might be intended to be pumped back into the publishing of TES:V for a mammoth launch campaign, similar in scope and cost to CoD:MW2's - which cost around $250 million to publish, compared to around $60 million to develop. You can see just how expensive the publishing side of games is compared to the development side from those figures, though of course Modern Warfare 2 is an extreme example. FO:NV, Brink, and Rage, will likely generate a huge sum of cash for Bethesda, though I think it's still too early to predict how well Hunted will do. Imagine what they could do with that amount of money! TES:V could be showed before every film at the cinema, on every major TV channel, at bus-stops and on billboards across the globe, the list goes on.

But as Riveon and Menes40 pointed out before me, that trademark is clearly going to be used, or they wouldn't have kept renewing it. There's also the GI tweet that fits in tantalizing well with the trademark expiration date and QuakeCon. Coincidence? Perhaps. It's still worth noting that by the time a TES:V launch campaign begins in ernest, FO:NV, Brink, and Rage, will have been on store shelves for a while, and Bethesda will have reaped the rewards. So long as they don't advertise TES:V at the same time as their currently announced published games, I don't think they'll be stealing the spotlight from anything.