Official TES V Speculation Thread # 50 : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:20 am

And also at the very least, all of this speculation will give us more knowledge and less naivety WRT waiting for TES VI

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:17 am

I'm with you dude, I'm going to take another long brake from these forums. I get my hopes up, and they are tragically dashed.

Same. I'm rather annoyed at Bethesda; I guess Bioware will have to take up the RPG throne in my mind until the TES issue is resolved. At least Bioware actually makes new games and releases them. I was pessimistic about this cover, and it came out as I suspected.

» Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:46 pm

I have to say that Bethesda is kinda disappointing recently. The idea that they can leave fans languishing for years while Bioware dominates the RPG market kinda worries me.

Oblivion wasn't announced until over two years after Morrowind was released. It hasn't even been two years since Fallout 3's release.

They're focusing too much on what they're publishing instead of talking about what they're developing. It was at last year's Quakecon that Todd Howard said there wouldn't be another Elder Scrolls (but Pete Hines said there would), so announcing it there this year would be a cool way to make up for it.

Expanding Bethesda's publishing arm isn't done at the expense of the developers - and in fact it helps maintain Bethesda's independence from large publishers like Activision and EA.

Bethesda Game Studios was also recently expanded so they could work on Fallout 3 and Oblivion at the same time so it's not like one side has been growing while the other side has languished.

The moral is that Bethesda trumpeting about Doom 4, Brink and New Vegas instead of TES V is comparable to Rockstar making a big deal about LA Noir and Max Payne instead of GTA V. The flagship franchises are what people want to know about most, Bioware gets this, but I don't think Bethesda does.

Bethesda doen't unveil games until they feel that they have a substantial amount of information to release, and if possible they don't announce a game until they are ready to unveil it. There are advantages and disadvantages to this but it is how they've done things since TES III shipped.

I don't think its woth speculating on trademarks anymore.

Here here!

Trademarks can be a good way to get a clue about what's going on but they can't be considered in any depth because we simply don't have sufficient information to do this. Beyond the initial Skyrim registration I'd argue we've learned nothing of value from tracking these things.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:11 am

Here here!

Trademarks can be a good way to get a clue about what's going on but they can't be considered in any depth because we simply don't have sufficient information to do this. Beyond the initial Skyrim registration I'd argue we've learned nothing of value from tracking these things.

Speak for yourself, I've learned an extensive amount about the trademark process...
not that it applies to TESV though.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:17 am

Speak for yourself, I've learned an extensive amount about the trademark process...
not that it applies to TESV though.

Well I also think it shows that its not an abandoned TM; They're def going to use it at this point.

» Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:05 pm

Has anyone ever announced a game at Quakecon before?

» Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:23 pm

What's with all the Bethesda hate guys? I've been reading a lot of comments in here and throughout the web about how "Bethesda is stupid" or "I've lost all faith in Bethesda" or "They've abandoned us"

You should be thankful. Bethesda Game Studios is working on a secret project. They said so themselves a year or so ago. It's definitely not Fallout 4 since they just got done with Fallout 3, Obsidian is almost done with New Vegas, and if Interplay wins the court battle, there will be Fallout: Online. And no, they're not making a new IP. Bethesda might have grown, but they're no where near big enough to handle three IPs. They've been working on TES V since Fallout 3's release, and probably since a little before that.

Be thankful they are taking their time and making it good rather than doing like Bioware and announcing the sequel eight or nine months after the original.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:11 am

Here's my guess:early 2012: announcement
end of 2013: release
Here's my proposal: Let Bethesda hand the TES title over Bioware... So we can see 1 TES title each year.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:16 am

I don't think we should even consider an announcement before they even annonce the second novel.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:58 am

Perspective: Try to find official info on Half-Life 2 EP3 and Half-LIfe 3. They were announced loooong ago and Valve will say nothing more than 'not this year'. Frustrating but the difference is we know Valve is actually working on them. May be a side project. May be waiting on new console tech, May be held up due to union negotations with the Combine But HL3 is coming (someday). I can accept that. But there is something vaguely insulting about BGS not confirming or denying TESV. A simple 'We're working on it. No details' is sufficient. Or 'We understand you want another ES but we are working on another project right now. No details' would tide people over and they could go back to grazing on the other titles the industry pushes out. But the 'barest idea' that BGS 'might' be on the verge of making an announcement (any second now) is wearing on the nerves and wasting a lot of people's time. It could easily be another (2) years before an announcement. Are we all going to jump at every tweet, conference, and GI cover until then?

I agree. It's driving me insane not knowing whether Bethesda Game Studios is announcing ESV sometime this year, early next year.... or late next year. I wish they would give us a date when they will announce their next project, but not quite tell us what it is so I can stop wasting my energy thinking about ESV's announcement.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:44 am

Here's my proposal: Let Bethesda hand the TES title over Bioware

Bioware is good at making their types of RPGs, but they could never do a TES game justice.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:37 am

Here's my guess:early 2012: announcement
end of 2013: release
Here's my proposal: Let Bethesda hand the TES title over Bioware... So we can see 1 TES title each year.

If you want an isometric, unimmersive by comparison RPG, sure.

» Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:58 pm

Here's my proposal: Let Bethesda hand the TES title over Bioware... So we can see 1 TES title each year.

I don't think we should even consider an announcement before they even annonce the second novel.

:trophy:

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:15 am

I wonder if we will see Fallout 4 before TESV, if they are making huge changes to the game engine I would rather they tested it out with Fallout and then fixed the bugs for TES than the other way around.

if they come out with fallout 4 before Elder scrolls 5 then i will lose all hope for beth

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:09 am

if they come out with fallout 4 before Elder scrolls 5 then i will lose all hope for beth

Ya, I actually think better technology would be more pertinent for Fallout than TES IMHO

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:25 am

What's with all the Bethesda hate guys? I've been reading a lot of comments in here and throughout the web about how "Bethesda is stupid" or "I've lost all faith in Bethesda" or "They've abandoned us"

You should be thankful. Bethesda Game Studios is working on a secret project. They said so themselves a year or so ago. It's definitely not Fallout 4 since they just got done with Fallout 3, Obsidian is almost done with New Vegas, and if Interplay wins the court battle, there will be Fallout: Online. And no, they're not making a new IP. Bethesda might have grown, but they're no where near big enough to handle three IPs. They've been working on TES V since Fallout 3's release, and probably since a little before that.

Be thankful they are taking their time and making it good rather than doing like Bioware and announcing the sequel eight or nine months after the original.

Unless they aren't working on it at all. We don't know anything. They could just be chilling in their studio for all we know. All we want is a single screenshot or teaser a la MW (a few images flashed between white). Really, it's not that hard to do that. If they've actually been working, then they should have something to show.

If they don't, then they are obviously not making a sincere effort. 3 guys in a garage made Project Offest in the same amount of time since FO3 (give or take).

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:25 am

Unless they aren't working on it at all. We don't know anything. They could just be chilling in their studio for all we know.

Yeah, because game developers are paid to chill in the studio and not work on any games. /sarcasm.

Well guys, I'm leaving this thread for a while. I might lurk it in it, but I'm done posting in it for a while. Too much nonsensical pessimism.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:55 am

They have no Notice of Allowance on the newly filed trademark. One thing we can be 100% certain of is that if their existing trademarks expire, we wont see any announcement until they get a Notice of Allowance for the new trademark, and presumably the newer trademarks they will have to re-apply for to replace the others. Which, as I've said before, can take anywhere from a few months to an entire year.

Hate to say it but it's not looking good. If it's not announced before July 31st (or was it July 27th?) we can all take a very long break from speculating on the date of the announcement.

As for the Game Informer cover, well, I can't say I'm surprised, most of us were saying it was either DAII or TES V anyway.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:17 am

Just tell us the date of when you'll announce your next project. Approximate. I beg you devs.

» Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:37 pm

Be thankful they are taking their time and making it good rather than doing like Bioware and announcing the sequel eight or nine months after the original.

But you do realize that Origins was finished during March of '09? The rest of the time it was being ported over to consoles. That's why they are announcing a sequel so soon.

And it seems like you're implying DA2 will be crap. Not cool, man, not cool.

» Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:56 pm

Yeah, because game developers are paid to chill in the studio and not work on any games. /sarcasm.

Well guys, I'm leaving this thread for a while. I might lurk it in it, but I'm done posting in it for a while. Too much nonsensical pessimism.

Do you know the definition of rhetorical? Obviously not.

» Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:59 pm

They have no Notice of Allowance on the newly filed trademark. One thing we can be 100% certain of is that if their existing trademarks expire, we wont see any announcement until they get a Notice of Allowance for the new trademark, and presumably the newer trademarks they will have to re-apply for to replace the others. Which, as I've said before, can take anywhere from a few months to an entire year.

Hate to say it but it's not looking good. If it's not announced before July 31st (or was it July 27th?) we can all take a very long break from speculating on the date of the announcement.

As for the Game Informer cover, well, I can't say I'm surprised, most of us were saying it was either DAII or TES V anyway.

Okay, well that gives us some bearing. If it's not announced before that date, then we know we'll have to wait anywhere from a few months to a year. Wonderful.

» Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:31 pm

But you do realize that Origins was finished during March of '09? The rest of the time it was being ported over to consoles. That's why they are announcing a sequel so soon.

I actually didn't know that.

Do you know the definition of rhetorical? Obviously not.

Of course I know the definition of rhetorical. And now I'm done with you, and I'm done with this thread. Both have been raising my blood pressure to un-needed levels.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:52 am

I actually didn't know that.

Of course I know the definition of rhetorical. And now I'm done with you, and I'm done with this thread. Both have been raising my blood pressure to un-needed levels.

We all know that tonight you are going to wonder what has been going on and post on the thread again

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:51 am

I actually didn't know that.

Of course I know the definition of rhetorical. And now I'm done with you, and I'm done with this thread. Both have been raising my blood pressure to un-needed levels.

And we are the fanatic ones for being annoyed at Bethesda for not showing proof of concept, at the very least. I'm very sorry that you are this easily angered.

On topic: We will not get a Quakecon announcement. More than likely, we will have to wait until next year's E3. I suspect a mid-late 2012 release.