[Roanne Bardsley]

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Game companies aren't going to sit around with their bank accounts drying up and let the console makers hold them hostage by waiting for another generation to come out. By your reasoning there really shouldn't be ANY new console games released or developed, which obviously isn't true. Oblivion did not push the boundaries of either platform, so there's definitely room for "new tech" within the current generation. Besides, what's to say they couldn't release on the current tech with features restrained to fit within the technical limitations of the current generation and release versions with the restraints removed for the next generation once they're out?

Pointing fingers, laughing, and mocking others in this thread will do little to earn respect.

[Doniesha World]

When Andrew Reiner asked if ESV was even in development, I took it as both fishy and a good sign. Most of the average gamer population pretty much knows ESV is in development. Why wouldn't the second in command at a major video game magazine? Isn't it, after all, his job to get the inside scoop/be in the know about games? Especially games he thoroughly enjoys: Andrew Reiner is the top member of the GI online Official Elder Scrolls Group after all, and as someone previously mentioned, he has 1000/1000 gamer score or 1250/1250 in Oblivion. He said the September cover was his most anticipated game. Now look at the GI online groups he’s in: Bioshock, Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, Street Fighter, Final Fantasy, Battlefield, Borderlands, and of course, Elder Scrolls. I would expect one of those to be the game he’s referring to, wouldn't you? Do any of those other games have a better chance of being the cover?

Also, remember back to June when the whole internet was basically certain ESV would be announced at E3. GI did a whole week of predictions in which they never mention ESV once. Why wouldn't they when the rest of the internet was, unless they had inside information? I personally contacted Andrew Reiner and suggested GI look into the E3 rumor. He responded with a simple "nope." I than asked if GI knew anything about ESV. He never responded. This leads me to believe that GI knows more than the average population about ESV. I think Reiner was trying to throw us off with his tweet.

Add that to the Pete Hines quote. He gave a pretty strong indication that something would be announced around Quake Con. What else would Bethesda be announcing besides ESV?

Also remember back to E3 again. Gstaff came and said we wouldn't see anything at E3. I'm fairly new to this forum, but it's my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, that similar things have happened before when people got their hopes up about an announcement. Why didn't anyone official quash the GI cover rumor? Maybe because the GI cover rumor is right and we just had the wrong issue? Bethesda has announced their last two games on Game Informer after all...

In conclusion, I think we'll be seeing something Elder Scrolls related at Quake Con. And I think the September GI issue is the perfect lead in to that. :goodjob:

[Lindsay Dunn]

So if BGS is planning on announcing something at Quakecon, we know they are probably only working on one thing that we know of, the "secret project", which we'll assume is TESV and most likely not a new IP.

Are you use that it's Bethesda Game Studios that has a planned announcement or is it Bethesda Softworks - I imagine it's the latter. We already know that Doom 4 is likely to be unveiled at QuakeCon and chances are that's the announcement we're hearing about.

Surely RAGE/ID TECH 5 is proof of the technology for the current consoles being more than adequate.

Just because current generation consoles can handle id tech 5 graphics doesn't mean they can handle id tech 5 graphics and a plethora of interactive objects and keep track of scores of NPCs and and an RAI system.

[Damned_Queen]

When Andrew Reiner asked if ESV was even in development, I took it as both fishy and a good sign. Most of the average gamer population pretty much knows ESV is in development. Why wouldn't the second in command at a major video game magazine? Isn't it, after all, his job to get the inside scoop/be in the know about games? Especially games he thoroughly enjoys: Andrew Reiner is the top member of the GI online Official Elder Scrolls Group after all, and as someone previously mentioned, he has 1000/1000 gamer score or 1250/1250 in Oblivion. He said the September cover was his most anticipated game. Now look at the GI online groups he’s in: Bioshock, Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, Street Fighter, Final Fantasy, Battlefield, Borderlands, and of course, Elder Scrolls. I would expect one of those to be the game he’s referring to, wouldn't you? Do any of those other games have a better chance of being the cover?

Also, remember back to June when the whole internet was basically certain ESV would be announced at E3. GI did a whole week of predictions in which they never mention ESV once. Why wouldn't they when the rest of the internet was, unless they had inside information? I personally contacted Andrew Reiner and suggested GI look into the E3 rumor. He responded with a simple "nope." I than asked if GI knew anything about ESV. He never responded. This leads me to believe that GI knows more than the average population about ESV. I think Reiner was trying to throw us off with his tweet.

Add that to the Pete Hines quote. He gave a pretty strong indication that something would be announced around Quake Con. What else would Bethesda be announcing besides ESV?

Also remember back to E3 again. Gstaff came and said we wouldn't see anything at E3. I'm fairly new to this forum, but it's my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, that similar things have happened before when people got their hopes up about an announcement. Why didn't anyone official quash the GI cover rumor? Maybe because the GI cover rumor is right and we just had the wrong issue? Bethesda has announced their last two games on Game Informer after all...

In conclusion, I think we'll be seeing something Elder Scrolls related at Quake Con. And I think the September GI issue is the perfect lead in to that. :goodjob:

Well said, I personally think this is more probable than the August cover anyway since we don't have to depend on trademarks. Only downside is that it started with a tweet again :facepalm: but we can look at it as a funny coincidence.

[Quick Draw]

When Andrew Reiner asked if ESV was even in development, I took it as both fishy and a good sign. Most of the average gamer population pretty much knows ESV is in development. Why wouldn't the second in command at a major video game magazine? Isn't it, after all, his job to get the inside scoop/be in the know about games? Especially games he thoroughly enjoys: Andrew Reiner is the top member of the GI online Official Elder Scrolls Group after all, and as someone previously mentioned, he has 1000/1000 gamer score or 1250/1250 in Oblivion. He said the September cover was his most anticipated game. Now look at the GI online groups he’s in: Bioshock, Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, Street Fighter, Final Fantasy, Battlefield, Borderlands, and of course, Elder Scrolls. I would expect one of those to be the game he’s referring to, wouldn't you? Do any of those other games have a better chance of being the cover?

Also, remember back to June when the whole internet was basically certain ESV would be announced at E3. GI did a whole week of predictions in which they never mention ESV once. Why wouldn't they when the rest of the internet was, unless they had inside information? I personally contacted Andrew Reiner and suggested GI look into the E3 rumor. He responded with a simple "nope." I than asked if GI knew anything about ESV. He never responded. This leads me to believe that GI knows more than the average population about ESV. I think Reiner was trying to throw us off with his tweet.

Add that to the Pete Hines quote. He gave a pretty strong indication that something would be announced around Quake Con. What else would Bethesda be announcing besides ESV?

Also remember back to E3 again. Gstaff came and said we wouldn't see anything at E3. I'm fairly new to this forum, but it's my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, that similar things have happened before when people got their hopes up about an announcement. Why didn't anyone official quash the GI cover rumor? Maybe because the GI cover rumor is right and we just had the wrong issue? Bethesda has announced their last two games on Game Informer after all...

In conclusion, I think we'll be seeing something Elder Scrolls related at Quake Con. And I think the September GI issue is the perfect lead in to that. :goodjob:

Here's another thing I forgot to mention. There was a story on GI's website awhile back about seven ideas for the next Elder Scrolls game. It has mysteriously disappeared from the site...

Here's a quote with the lead to the story. Its the only text I can find. "We're pretty big fans of the Elder Scrolls series here at the office. Many of us have put insane amounts of hours into Oblivion alone, not to mention the past games like Morrowind and Daggerfall. One of the most common phrases said on the Game Informer Online office is "You know what would be cool?" We spend more than enough work hours during the week dreaming about the perfect games and what we would love to play. The Elder Scrolls definitely comes up a lot and this time we put it on paper."

Here's a link: http://n4g.com/news/296942/gameinformer-seven-ideas-for-the-next-elder-scrolls/com#c-2171269

[KIng James]

Here's another thing I forgot to mention. There was a story on GI's website awhile back about seven ideas for the next Elder Scrolls game. It has mysteriously disappeared from the site...

Here's a quote with the lead to the story. Its the only text I can find. "We're pretty big fans of the Elder Scrolls series here at the office. Many of us have put insane amounts of hours into Oblivion alone, not to mention the past games like Morrowind and Daggerfall. One of the most common phrases said on the Game Informer Online office is "You know what would be cool?" We spend more than enough work hours during the week dreaming about the perfect games and what we would love to play. The Elder Scrolls definitely comes up a lot and this time we put it on paper."

Here's a link: http://n4g.com/news/296942/gameinformer-seven-ideas-for-the-next-elder-scrolls/com#c-2171269

It might have just been pruned or something. :shrug:

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1096547-next-gen/ explains pretty well why it should be made for this generation. And there are a thousand more reasons than what's on that thread.

Oh, and laughing at people and their posts will only get people pissed at you. Just saying.

[SUck MYdIck]

Well, Pete Hines did say that QuakeCon would be a good place to announce things.

Doom 4.

Yeah, this is quite a stretch. I could claim that because he has 1000/1000 gamerscore on Oblivion (which he does) means that there is evidence. We need something more concrete as his favorite games list does not include Oblivion.

His favorite game list of THIS YEAR. Not all time.

[Jerry Cox]

Some thoughts on those sifting through the trademark details:

Several months ago Bethesda expanded their Fallout registration to include movies, and a search of IMDB revealed a post-apocalyptic movie titled "Fallout" in early production. Pretty cool huh? Except Bethesda isn't planning a Fallout film, and this other movie isn't a Bethesda backed film. Bethesda expanded their trademark to protect their assets and to make sure that this film wasn't trying to steal from them. The film was renamed "The Fallout" a short while later and then renamed again more recently - it is now "The Divide."


Not long before Oblivion's announcement Bethesda renewed their trademark for this and people got all hyped up about an imminent Oblivion announcement. They were right . . . . but it was a coincidence. Oblivion had been registered at the same time as Morrowind and it just happened that they were nearing the expiration at the same time they were nearing the announcement.


This isn't to say that this information is useless, we've learned about several TES titles beforehand because a fan has checked out registered trademarks of Zenimax. However if such apparently clear cut situation can be wrong then I seriously question the usefulness of sifting through TM minutia. If you're enjoying this then I won't get in your way but I wouldn't suggest getting overly enthusiastic - they're probably as accurate as reading tea leaves when it comes to predictions Bethesda's plans.

[Vahpie]

Also, remember back to June when the whole internet was basically certain ESV would be announced at E3. GI did a whole week of predictions in which they never mention ESV once. Why wouldn't they when the rest of the internet was, unless they had inside information?

Why would they need inside information, Bethesda stated publicly that there wouldn't be announcements like this at E3.

Also remember back to E3 again. Gstaff came and said we wouldn't see anything at E3. I'm fairly new to this forum, but it's my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, that similar things have happened before when people got their hopes up about an announcement. Why didn't anyone official quash the GI cover rumor?

It's quite common for Bethesda not to comment about rumors like this, or if they do comment to make it extremely ambiguous.

And to be honest if Bethesda was planning something for the next cover I think they would have been more likely to squash this rumor, not less likely.

When Andrew Reiner asked if ESV was even in development, I took it as both fishy and a good sign. Most of the average gamer population pretty much knows ESV is in development. Why wouldn't the second in command at a major video game magazine?

We don't know that TES V is in developement, we suspect - there is a world of difference.

Mr. Reiner may know what Bethesda's current project is, and may even know when they plan to announce it. However whether he does or not he has a good reason not to comment on requests like this.

[Kevin Jay]

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Thank you for summarizing all that in one post. It isn't concrete evidence, but it's still something to look at and think about.

But people, don't get your hopes up about this. Just keep it in mind as a possibility.

Here's another thing I forgot to mention. There was a story on GI's website awhile back about seven ideas for the next Elder Scrolls game. It has mysteriously disappeared from the site...

Here's a quote with the lead to the story. Its the only text I can find. "We're pretty big fans of the Elder Scrolls series here at the office. Many of us have put insane amounts of hours into Oblivion alone, not to mention the past games like Morrowind and Daggerfall. One of the most common phrases said on the Game Informer Online office is "You know what would be cool?" We spend more than enough work hours during the week dreaming about the perfect games and what we would love to play. The Elder Scrolls definitely comes up a lot and this time we put it on paper."

Here's a link: http://n4g.com/news/296942/gameinformer-seven-ideas-for-the-next-elder-scrolls/com#c-2171269

Well that's interesting. But pruned NextMasterMind you say? Hm, are older articles like that pruned too? Or has that Elder Scrolls article just not had any activity, so it got pruned?

[Nauty]

When Andrew Reiner asked if ESV was even in development, I took it as both fishy and a good sign. Most of the average gamer population pretty much knows ESV is in development. Why wouldn't the second in command at a major video game magazine? Isn't it, after all, his job to get the inside scoop/be in the know about games? Especially games he thoroughly enjoys: Andrew Reiner is the top member of the GI online Official Elder Scrolls Group after all, and as someone previously mentioned, he has 1000/1000 gamer score or 1250/1250 in Oblivion. He said the September cover was his most anticipated game. Now look at the GI online groups he’s in: Bioshock, Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, Street Fighter, Final Fantasy, Battlefield, Borderlands, and of course, Elder Scrolls. I would expect one of those to be the game he’s referring to, wouldn't you? Do any of those other games have a better chance of being the cover?

Also, remember back to June when the whole internet was basically certain ESV would be announced at E3. GI did a whole week of predictions in which they never mention ESV once. Why wouldn't they when the rest of the internet was, unless they had inside information? I personally contacted Andrew Reiner and suggested GI look into the E3 rumor. He responded with a simple "nope." I than asked if GI knew anything about ESV. He never responded. This leads me to believe that GI knows more than the average population about ESV. I think Reiner was trying to throw us off with his tweet.

Add that to the Pete Hines quote. He gave a pretty strong indication that something would be announced around Quake Con. What else would Bethesda be announcing besides ESV?

Also remember back to E3 again. Gstaff came and said we wouldn't see anything at E3. I'm fairly new to this forum, but it's my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, that similar things have happened before when people got their hopes up about an announcement. Why didn't anyone official quash the GI cover rumor? Maybe because the GI cover rumor is right and we just had the wrong issue? Bethesda has announced their last two games on Game Informer after all...

In conclusion, I think we'll be seeing something Elder Scrolls related at Quake Con. And I think the September GI issue is the perfect lead in to that. :goodjob:

Yes!thank you for telling us this,now this time I am 99% sure(last time I was 80%).

[Smokey]

This isn't to say that this information is useless, we've learned about several TES titles beforehand because a fan has checked out registered trademarks of Zenimax. However if such apparently clear cut situation can be wrong then I seriously question the usefulness of sifting through TM minutia. If you're enjoying this then I won't get in your way but I wouldn't suggest getting overly enthusiastic - they're probably as accurate as reading tea leaves when it comes to predictions Bethesda's plans.

This is good wisdom all ought to heed. The trademarks are useful in determining what Zenimax Media is planning or developing, but it's very precarious (as we've learned) to arrive at a precise prediction of when based solely on them. They're merely circumstantial, their meaning bound by a context to which we're simply not privy.

[~Sylvia~]

Yes!thank you for telling us this,now this time I am 99% sure(last time I was 80%).

Ooh, that's dangerous if you're thinking about the next cover. 99%?

[Alex Vincent]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is what I am talking about.
A release next year? are you crazy?

They already have the ESIV engine.
If they wanted to they could have churned out ESV easily by now.
It's been 4 years.
Notice every ES has been on new tech compared to the previous.
They started to work on ESV (and by working on it I mean completely revamp the gaming engine)
When they realized that their eyes were bigger than their stomachs and to do what they want to do they need new tech.
That is why they put the hold on ES for awhile and I'm not revealing where I get my info.
So don't tell me that I haven't done my research.

Trust me guys, this is a good thing. Do you really want a new game now? It would just be an expansion, really. Sure there would be a new story, but it would seem like an expansion to me.
The cool thing about ES is that with every game its completely new tech.

I will tell you this right now, your not getting ESV on the current Gen, so drop it.

But the new game will be awesome and completely different than anything you have played before both in size and sheer graphics.

If you're not going to reveal the source of your info how can we view any of your statements as credible?

[Scott Clemmons]

But the new game will be awesome and completely different than anything you have played before both in size and sheer graphics.

If anything, he was right about this :laugh:.

[MARLON JOHNSON]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is what I am talking about.
A release next year? are you crazy?

They already have the ESIV engine.
If they wanted to they could have churned out ESV easily by now.
It's been 4 years.
Notice every ES has been on new tech compared to the previous.
They started to work on ESV (and by working on it I mean completely revamp the gaming engine)
When they realized that their eyes were bigger than their stomachs and to do what they want to do they need new tech.
That is why they put the hold on ES for awhile and I'm not revealing where I get my info.
So don't tell me that I haven't done my research.

Trust me guys, this is a good thing. Do you really want a new game now? It would just be an expansion, really. Sure there would be a new story, but it would seem like an expansion to me.
The cool thing about ES is that with every game its completely new tech.

I will tell you this right now, your not getting ESV on the current Gen, so drop it.

But the new game will be awesome and completely different than anything you have played before both in size and sheer graphics.

As posted in the OP, in an interview with Todd Howard, he stated they were reworking their technology for a new game (this was early this year or last year)

[Catherine N]

Ooh, that's dangerous if you're thinking about the next cover. 99%?

Well more like 30%(I always overexaggerate about things that put my hope ups chances)and it isn't that dangerous because I was disappointed about the cover but I saw it coming and I can see it coming now too.

[Nichola Haynes]

I suggest everyone stop expecting anything until much later in the year. I don't car what anyone else says, they're going to put full time and effort into the games that they are currently publishing. Until these are released, don't expect any big news other than maybe a book announcement.

[Francesca]

I suggest everyone stop expecting anything until much later in the year. I don't car what anyone else says, they're going to put full time and effort into the games that they are currently publishing. Until these are released, don't expect any big news other than maybe a book announcement.

Bethesda Softworks are the ones publishing, we are talking about Bethesda Game Studios.

edit: Just because Bethesda Softworks is doing something that has nothing to do with what Bethesda Game Studios is doing doesn't mean they shouldn't reveal what it is they are doing.

[rae.x]

I suggest everyone stop expecting anything until much later in the year. I don't car what anyone else says, they're going to put full time and effort into the games that they are currently publishing. Until these are released, don't expect any big news other than maybe a book announcement.

I don't understand how publishing anything should have any impact on a TES game's announcement at all. Sure, one could argue that it takes the thunder away from the other games they're publishing, but then again, when I heard about RAGE, I knew I was going to buy it, screw Brink or any of their other games. I'm getting freaking RAGE.

And also, as bipp mentioned, Game Studios would be making TES V, Softworks is publishing all these games. They only time they should have any effect upon one another is when they get around to actually pushing out copies of TES V for the stores.

[Vicki Gunn]

I don't understand how publishing anything should have any impact on a TES game's announcement at all. Sure, one could argue that it takes the thunder away from the other games they're publishing, but then again, when I heard about RAGE, I knew I was going to buy it, screw Brink or any of their other games. I'm getting freaking RAGE.

And also, as bipp mentioned, Game Studios would be making TES V, Softworks is publishing all these games. They only time they should have any effect upon one another is when they get around to actually pushing out copies of TES V for the stores.

Which would occur 1-2 year/years later. And have no impact on the games being published now because they'd have already been published. :celebration:

[Matthew Warren]

I don't understand how publishing anything should have any impact on a TES game's announcement at all. Sure, one could argue that it takes the thunder away from the other games they're publishing, but then again, when I heard about RAGE, I knew I was going to buy it, screw Brink or any of their other games. I'm getting freaking RAGE.

And also, as bipp mentioned, Game Studios would be making TES V, Softworks is publishing all these games. They only time they should have any effect upon one another is when they get around to actually pushing out copies of TES V for the stores.

I get that, I really do but its clear they are putting their publishing priority over their project.

[Stay-C]

I get that, I really do but its clear they are putting their publishing priority over their project.

But its not their project. It's Bethesda Game Studios'.

[Add Me]

I don't understand how publishing anything should have any impact on a TES game's announcement at all. Sure, one could argue that it takes the thunder away from the other games they're publishing, but then again, when I heard about RAGE, I knew I was going to buy it, screw Brink or any of their other games. I'm getting freaking RAGE.

Bethesda Softworks is juggling a lot of balls at the moment, tossing in another one right now seems like quite the work load - and unnecessary with New Vegas shipping in a few months. (And that's assuming they're even interested in announcing this game in the next few months).


However you're right that not announcing TES V because of other upcoming games doesn't make too much sense, if this was true they wouldn't have an opportunity to announce this for a year or more

[katie TWAVA]

But its not their project. It's Bethesda Game Studios'.

We're making a bigger deal abut this separation. Do you think most people know this? They're not going to be advertising/announcing another game while they're already involved with 4 games attm