[Gaelle Courant]

Nice compilation. I know this was presented in good faith and a great start, but herein lies what really aggravates me (and probably others) about the recent trends in this thread. You seem to have only included the names of those who have only since recently been involved in the these speculative discussions, and a few others wanting to "stamp" their name onto some theory. As you yourself have only been around recently, it's really no big surprise. The fact of the matter is that the real authors behind most of these theories, especially those who provided the logical foundations behind them, are nowhere to be found in this list. If you're going to seriously list the predominate theories you'd be well advised to include the names of xXAntibodyXx, Mr. Tissue Box, ThatOneGuy, and others. We all align ourselves pretty much to the same hypothesis which the M'aiqium theories most resemble. Considering this is thread 52 (with many more unofficial versions proceeding) there is a deep richness to these discussions which would inform this kind of list much better than is represented.

I sincerely am not trying to flame or offend, but am just presenting us "old timers'" perspective.

Agreed completely. I suggest, bipp, if you truly want to present this comprehensive list of theories to us, you rename each theory "Theory 1, 2, 3" and so on, instead of making ridiculous sounding names for them.

That said, coming up with any sort of theory is pointless without knowing the announcement date, sadly.

[Pete Schmitzer]

Nice compilation. I know this was presented in good faith and a great start, but herein lies what really aggravates me (and probably others) about the recent trends in this thread. You seem to have only included the names of those who have only since recently been involved in the these speculative discussions, and a few others wanting to "stamp" their name onto some theory. As you yourself have only been around recently, it's really no big surprise. The fact of the matter is that the real authors behind most of these theories, especially those who provided the logical foundations behind them, are nowhere to be found in this list. If you're going to seriously list the predominate theories you'd be well advised to include the names of xXAntibodyXx, Mr. Tissue Box, ThatOneGuy, and others. We all align ourselves pretty much to the same hypothesis which the M'aiqium theories most resemble. Considering this is thread 52 (with many more unofficial versions proceeding) there is a deep richness to these discussions which would inform this kind of list much better than is represented.

I sincerely am not trying to flame or offend, but am just presenting us "old timers'" perspective.

I consider myself an old timer, for I've been in these threads since the beginning

On another note #479?: Yeah... Stain is pretty much my go-to man for info usually. He seems to have a really good wrap-around on our speculation. Also, Antibody is definitely up there.

Agreed completely. I suggest, bipp, if you truly want to present this comprehensive list of theories to us, you rename each theory "Theory 1, 2, 3" and so on, instead of making ridiculous sounding names for them.

Actually, some of the theories were named by other people such as mine: The Love Theory. Also, ridiculous sounding names seem to be easier to remember than numbers.

[Luna Lovegood]

I consider myself an old timer, for I've been in these threads since the beginning

On another note #479?: Yeah... Stain is pretty much my go-to man for info usually. He seems to have a really good wrap-around on our speculation. Also, Antibody is definitely up there.


Actually, some of the theories were named by other people such as mine: The Love Theory. Also, ridiculous sounding names seem to be easier to remember than numbers.

Yeah I've followed this thread since thread 20 without logging in, thanks again for all the advice, when I'm back in a few hours I'll update the list.

[Adam Kriner]

I'm liking this whole theory post thing. If it's posted at the top of each thread, people will more easily know what other people are thinking and what has been discussed. Nice stuff

[DAVId Bryant]

As for it coming out next-gen, wouldn't you rather have that? I gotta admit, games on the 360 and Wii are starting to get very stale and the limits are starting to screw them over. (Though Nintendo is STILL selling quite a lot of Wiis and DS) With a brand new system, it would most likely look even better than Oblivion, and they wouldn't have to deal with the horrid DVD9 format that the 360 uses. (Assuming they use Blu-Ray or some other format)

So you mention the 360 and the wii but not the ps3? Not sure why the wii is even being mentioned because esv will not be on the wii so why the mention of 360 and wii but no ps3?

[Anna S]

Okay, I did a bit of cleaning up and am re-opening the thread.

This thread is for speculation about TES V - perhaps a re-read of the opening post might help things stay on topic. I do feel a need to point out the incredible unlikelihood of anyone jeopardizing a relationship with Bethesda or Zenimax or even with one of their employees by coming onto the developer's private forums and claiming inside info. Use common sense with your speculation - it should be a fun thread, not aggravating. This is a game release we are idly speculating about, not the cure for the world's problems.

[Liv Staff]

Im not sure how much this helps, its probably been posted before. But I got my newlsetter for the August cover of GI thats been flying around. Its not TESV

by Joe Juba
This week we revealed August's cover story, an exclusive 10-page feature on the breathtaking sequel to BioWare's newest RPG series, Dragon Age. In Dragon Age 2 players will take on the role of a new hero, explore a different part of the world, and enjoy a multitude of new improvements to the Dragon Age formula. Also in this issue: we rank the 50 hottest games of E3, anolyze the major press conferences, and provide hands-on impressions of some of the most anticipated games of 2011.

Hope this helps.

EDIT: I can printscreen the cover, its in my Inbox.

[Bee Baby]

I hope the thread won't have to be closed anymore. I know a lot of people were banking on the GI cover panning out, and now people must be pretty disappointed. But let's stay positive; those of us who've been around for a while now have already seen our fair share of these brief periods of hype, only to be let down each time. Clearly we are all eager for news; we're all posting actively on a board for a game that, as far as any of us knows, may never come. But patience has served us well in the past, and let's keep that in mind as we look to the future.

Speaking of which, as far as I can see, there are not going to be too many "golden opportunities" for Beth to make the reveal in the coming months. Quakecon and the release of the next novel are pretty much the only events that could coincide with any major TES announcement/revelation, and at this point I don't see any reason to suspect that news WILL come at either of these events. Though I am admittedly not the most informed on all things Beth-related, so perhaps someone else can present some good reasons to hope for an announcement in the near future. As for me, I am expecting to wait for a while yet; maybe til around this time next year. If this is indeed the case, I can only hope that the extra time apparently being invested into the game's development pays off.

[stacy hamilton]

Im not sure how much this helps, its probably been posted before. But I got my newlsetter for the August cover of GI thats been flying around. Its not TESV

by Joe Juba
This week we revealed August's cover story, an exclusive 10-page feature on the breathtaking sequel to BioWare's newest RPG series, Dragon Age. In Dragon Age 2 players will take on the role of a new hero, explore a different part of the world, and enjoy a multitude of new improvements to the Dragon Age formula. Also in this issue: we rank the 50 hottest games of E3, anolyze the major press conferences, and provide hands-on impressions of some of the most anticipated games of 2011.

Hope this helps.

EDIT: I can printscreen the cover, its in my Inbox.

Way late, way old you serious?

[Luis Longoria]

I am sure this has been said before but a certain critical mass needs to occur (at least in the PC world) for TES 5 to really push the envelope - not sure if enough time has occurred yet to sell win7 x64, quad core cpus, dx11 graphics cards, ssds, 6 gb + addressable ram for mods. I don't see reaching that critical mass level until next year....I still see a lot of modders in Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout on weak pc systems using winxp 32 bit. Microsoft just stopped supporting winxp this year....

[SexyPimpAss]

Yeah I've followed this thread since thread 20 without logging in, thanks again for all the advice, when I'm back in a few hours I'll update the list.

I'm liking this whole theory post thing. If it's posted at the top of each thread, people will more easily know what other people are thinking and what has been discussed. Nice stuff

I agree, this is a great idea! :goodjob:

bipp, don't get me wrong. I really do think the theory synthesis a good idea (and kind of wish I would have taken/had the time to do it). I personally like the "ridiculous" theory names because otherwise our discussions will descend into this:

Member 1: "Well I think theory #1 is the best"
Member 2: "Na uh, theory #3 rulez!11!1!"
Member 1: "Wait, what is theory #3 again?"

And what if we arrive at branching theories where one deviates from another? Would we then start employing decimal points? Sorry, I'm digressing...

[JESSE]

I am sure this has been said before but a certain critical mass needs to occur (at least in the PC world) for TES 5 to really push the envelope - not sure if enough time has occurred yet to sell win7 x64, quad core cpus, dx11 graphics cards, ssds, 6 gb + addressable ram for mods. I don't see reaching that critical mass level until next year....I still see a lot of modders in Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout on weak pc systems using winxp 32 bit. Microsoft just stopped supporting winxp this year....

This.

[ILy- Forver]

So you mention the 360 and the wii but not the ps3? Not sure why the wii is even being mentioned because esv will not be on the wii so why the mention of 360 and wii but no ps3?

PS3 has some powerful hardware that will probably last much longer than the Xbox 360 and Wii. If I didn't mention Wii than I would be leaving one out which doesn't sound right. I NEVER said anything about Elder Scrolls V being on Wii either, so don't make it look like I said it when I didn't.

[Teghan Harris]

PS3 has some powerful hardware that will probably last much longer than the Xbox 360 and Wii. If I didn't mention Wii than I would be leaving one out which doesn't sound right. I NEVER said anything about Elder Scrolls V being on Wii either, so don't make it look like I said it when I didn't.

Sorry didn't know you didn't mention ps3 because you think its more powerful and will last longer. Thought you were slighting it like the other mindless fan trolls...my apologies.

[Taylrea Teodor]

xXUpdated VersionXx

The following is a compilation of theories that have been concocted over the past few weeks in the Official TES: V Speculation Thread. I will include past predictions for anolyzing to see where we failed to meet our expectations. I will also include current predictions for further anolyzing to learn from our mistakes and fulfill our expectations, whether correct or wrong.
Thanks to all who participate in the official thread. A special thanks to the following:
xXAntibodyXx, Mr. Tissue Box, Stain, ThatOneGuy, Syltstrider, and the rest of the old-timers who got the speculation thread # 1 to where it is now. And a sincere thanks to the moderators for keeping peace in the thread and for keeping it alive.

*= assumption based off of Bethesda timelines.

The Past Predictions.

The E-threeum Theory – A theory based off the expectation of seeing a big game at a big game event, which is known as E3.
*TES: V would have been announced at (or a couple hours before the showing on the Elder Scrolls website) E3.
*The sequel to the Infernal City would have been announced not long after the conclusion of E3.
*TES: V was speculated to be released sometime between mid 2011 and early 2012.
Many rumors spread around the Internet, fueling this theory, but in the end we were doped. However Game Informer never even acknowledged the mere chance of an announcement at E3., which gave rise to the existence of the next theory…

The Informium Augustus Theory – a theory based on a tweet that stated the August cover would make fantasy fans “crap” themselves.
*TES: V would have been announced hours before the cover reveal on the Elder Scrolls website.
*The sequel to the Infernal City would have been announced on the Game Informer issue.
*TES: V would have been released sometime between mid 2011 and mid 2012.
After Dragon Age 2 was revealed to be the cover many lost hope, but there are many more theories that need speculating and arguing. Such as the following…

The Current Predictions

The Serperium Theory (Serper's theory) - TES: V is released on the next generation consoles. This theory is based off of an unknown and offline source that has yet to be revealed…
*The sequel to Infernal City is announced along with release date in late 2010/early 2011.
*The announcement of Elder Scrolls V would most likely take place sometime in 2011.
* TES: V shown at E3 2012.
*The release will be between late 2012 and mid 2013 on the new platforms.

The M’aiqium Theories
In honor of M’aiq
As of now the following two theories are what the some of the experienced speculators are aligned with at the moment (such as xXAntibodyXx, Stain, ThatOneGuy and etc.)

The M'aiqium Theory #1 (the majority) – TES: V is released on the current generation consoles.
*TES V is announced at Quakecon with an issue in the September cover of Game Informer (2010).
*The sequel to Infernal City is announced along with release date in late 2010/early 2011.
*TES: V is shown at E3 2011.
*Release sometime in 2012 on current generation platforms.

The M'aiqium Theory #2 (the majority) – TES: V is released on current generation consoles.
*TES: V is announced sometime between late 2010 and mid 2011.
*The sequel to Infernal City is announced along with release date (maybe) with TES: V if announced in late 2010 or early 2011.
*TES: V is shown at E3 2011 (maybe shown at E3 2012 too?)
*Release sometime in 2012 on current generation platforms.

The Faelianium Theory (or as some like to call the "Cosmic" Theory) (a minor part of the minority) – TES: V is never announced. Oblivion was Bethesda Game Studio's crowning achievement and will go down in history as a legend (along with Morrowind).
The sequel to Infernal City is lost to the halls of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Hermaeus_Mora.
Oblivion and Morrowind will become so heavily modded some might even call them sequels to their original games.
We will all die without ever playing the Elder Scrolls V.

The Mustangium Theory (Mustangs10's theory)
*2nd novel is announced in September, released in November.
*TES: V is announced Spring 2011; Perhaps May-June Game Informer.
*E3 2011, perhaps a small demo and more info.
*TES: V is released Spring-Summer 2012.

The Keatoniun Kitsunium Theory (Keaton Kitsune’s theory)
*TES: V announced between mid 2010 and March 2011.
*TES: V released between late 2011 and early 2012 on current generation of platforms.

The Love Theory (LoveIsReal’s theory)
*Game Informer announcement of TES V within the next three months.
*TES: V is left with no new information until E3 2011.
*Game is set for release in November 2011.
*Game is delayed and set for release in April 2012.

The Johnnium Theory (Johnn123’s theory)
*Second Elder Scrolls Novel announced at Quakecon, alongside TES: V.
*Book comes out early December with info on TES: V inside.
*TES: V shown at E3 2011.
*TES: V released late 2011.

The Conspiracy Theory (Kristoffer’s theory) - Game was completed already, in complete secrecy, and waiting for a late November 2010 release for the Christmas shopping blitz. An announcement will be made on Black Friday that the game is IN STORES NOW.

The Mr. Tissue Box Theory – in the last couple of threads, Mr. Tissue Box was tweeting with a Game Informer employee about September’s magazine cover. The September magazine may not be TES: V after all, but Batman: Arkham Asylum 2. This would interfere with the acclaimed M’aiqium Theory #1.


If there are any theories that you would like me to submit to the list, please feel free to say.

[Josh Lozier]

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This is excellent. :clap:

[Anthony Santillan]

This is excellent. :clap:

Thanks...and thanks again for the advice you gave me. :foodndrink:

[Len swann]

xXUpdated VersionXx

The following is a compilation of theories that have been concocted over the past few weeks in the Official TES: V Speculation Thread. I will include past predictions for anolyzing to see where we failed to meet our expectations. I will also include current predictions for further anolyzing to learn from our mistakes and fulfill our expectations, whether correct or wrong.
Thanks to all who participate in the official thread. A special thanks to the following:
xXAntibodyXx, Mr. Tissue Box, Stain, ThatOneGuy, Syltstrider, and the rest of the old-timers who got the speculation thread # 1 to where it is now. And a sincere thanks to the moderators for keeping peace in the thread and for keeping it alive.

*= assumption based off of Bethesda timelines.

The Past Predictions.

The E-threeum Theory – A theory based off the expectation of seeing a big game at a big game event, which is known as E3.
*TES: V would have been announced at (or a couple hours before the showing on the Elder Scrolls website) E3.
*The sequel to the Infernal City would have been announced not long after the conclusion of E3.
*TES: V was speculated to be released sometime between mid 2011 and early 2012.
Many rumors spread around the Internet, fueling this theory, but in the end we were doped. However Game Informer never even acknowledged the mere chance of an announcement at E3., which gave rise to the existence of the next theory…

The Informium Augustus Theory – a theory based on a tweet that stated the August cover would make fantasy fans “crap” themselves.
*TES: V would have been announced hours before the cover reveal on the Elder Scrolls website.
*The sequel to the Infernal City would have been announced on the Game Informer issue.
*TES: V would have been released sometime between mid 2011 and mid 2012.
After Dragon Age 2 was revealed to be the cover many lost hope, but there are many more theories that need speculating and arguing. Such as the following…

The Current Predictions

The Serperium Theory (Serper's theory) - TES: V is released on the next generation consoles. This theory is based off of an unknown and offline source that has yet to be revealed…
*The sequel to Infernal City is announced along with release date in late 2010/early 2011.
*The announcement of Elder Scrolls V would most likely take place sometime in 2011.
* TES: V shown at E3 2012.
*The release will be between late 2012 and mid 2013 on the new platforms.

The M’aiqium Theories
In honor of M’aiq
As of now the following two theories are what the some of the experienced speculators are aligned with at the moment (such as xXAntibodyXx, Stain, ThatOneGuy and etc.)

The M'aiqium Theory #1 (the majority) – TES: V is released on the current generation consoles.
*TES V is announced at Quakecon with an issue in the September cover of Game Informer (2010).
*The sequel to Infernal City is announced along with release date in late 2010/early 2011.
*TES: V is shown at E3 2011.
*Release sometime in 2012 on current generation platforms.

The M'aiqium Theory #2 (the majority) – TES: V is released on current generation consoles.
*TES: V is announced sometime between late 2010 and mid 2011.
*The sequel to Infernal City is announced along with release date (maybe) with TES: V if announced in late 2010 or early 2011.
*TES: V is shown at E3 2011 (maybe shown at E3 2012 too?)
*Release sometime in 2012 on current generation platforms.

The Faelianium Theory (or as some like to call the "Cosmic" Theory) (a minor part of the minority) – TES: V is never announced. Oblivion was Bethesda Game Studio's crowning achievement and will go down in history as a legend (along with Morrowind).
The sequel to Infernal City is lost to the halls of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Hermaeus_Mora.
Oblivion and Morrowind will become so heavily modded some might even call them sequels to their original games.
We will all die without ever playing the Elder Scrolls V.

The Mustangium Theory (Mustangs10's theory)
*2nd novel is announced in September, released in November.
*TES: V is announced Spring 2011; Perhaps May-June Game Informer.
*E3 2011, perhaps a small demo and more info.
*TES: V is released Spring-Summer 2012.

The Keatoniun Kitsunium Theory (Keaton Kitsune’s theory)
*TES: V announced between mid 2010 and March 2011.
*TES: V released between late 2011 and early 2012 on current generation of platforms.

The Love Theory (LoveIsReal’s theory)
*Game Informer announcement of TES V within the next three months.
*TES: V is left with no new information until E3 2011.
*Game is set for release in November 2011.
*Game is delayed and set for release in April 2012.

The Johnnium Theory (Johnn123’s theory)
*Second Elder Scrolls Novel announced at Quakecon, alongside TES: V.
*Book comes out early December with info on TES: V inside.
*TES: V shown at E3 2011.
*TES: V released late 2011.

The Conspiracy Theory (Kristoffer’s theory) - Game was completed already, in complete secrecy, and waiting for a late November 2010 release for the Christmas shopping blitz. An announcement will be made on Black Friday that the game is IN STORES NOW.

The Mr. Tissue Box Theory – in the last couple of threads, Mr. Tissue Box was tweeting with a Game Informer employee about September’s magazine cover. The September magazine may not be TES: V after all, but Batman: Arkham Asylum 2. This would interfere with the acclaimed M’aiqium Theory #1.


If there are any theories that you would like me to submit to the list, please feel free to say.

You the man bipp...

I speculate that M'aiqium Theory #1 is correct.

[liz barnes]

Serpium theory FTW because you know I'm a realist

[Trevi]

I agree with M'aiqium theory #1 for the most part, except for the game informer part at this point. I just don't want to get my hopes up again for game informer like we did for this months issue. I think they'll keep big new information strictly to Quakecon, the next book, and E3.

[Thomas LEON]

I don't know why a lot of you guys think TES V will be next gen. There's just no way... New consoles won't come out for at least 3 years, and it will most likely be longer than that. Bethesda isn't gonna wait another three years for the next TES. Its been four years already...

[Chloe Lou]

Serpium theory FTW because you know I ignore all the links to microsoft saying that the next generation consoles won't be released until 2013.

That is what you meant to say.

[Michelle davies]

I'm kind of partial to The M'aiqium Theory #2 but with the possibility of a PC release a few months prior to a next-gen console release all in the neighborhood of 2012.

[Ezekiel Macallister]

The Serperium Theory is actually kind of logical. Almost all the TES games were the [censored] graphics-wise, when they came out. I remember Morrowind was very infamous because even the high end computers had some trouble running it.
And I've been thinking: can there be a chance that we won't get TESV instead we get a new game in the Elder Scrolls Legends series? They could be thinking that the novel needs time, so they figured let's continue the Legends series so the next game won't have to be set after the events of Oblivion.

[roxxii lenaghan]

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I'm gonna go with the Love Theory myself. Give it a few months.

Serpium theory FTW because you know I'm a realist

Okay, "realism" is not pessimism. You are not a realist by any means, not even by the wildest stretches of a prodigious imagination. You are a wangsty teenager's image of a realist. Optimism is looking at uncertain evidence and filling in the blanks with positive ideas. Pessimism is looking at uncertain evidence and filling it in with negative ideas. Realism is making judgement based solely on the evidence. You go even beyond the pessimistic by not only putting a negative spin on the evidence but ignoring any that conflicts with said spin and then try to paint some legitimacy on it by claiming realism. You aren't fooling anyone else with that lie, so stop trying to fool yourself.

The serpium theory sounds legitimate, however the projected timelines for the consoles and for TESV don't match up that way, and people are also assuming that the consoles now are already doddering when they aren't.