[Wayne W]

There is NO OFFICIAL information about a new TES game release.

This thread is for member speculation of when and if TES V will be released. This is where you post any new information about when it might be released, tidbits from interviews which mention it and such.

It is also where you post your theories of when you think it might come out based on guesses, number crunching, rumors or such.

This is about speculating on the next TES game and when -- or if -- it is going to be released. It is not a place for discussion of what is going to be in it, what type of graphics there will be, or any other subject of that type; they belong in the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1090035-tes-v-ideas-and-suggestions-164/. If those kind of posts get raised they will be deleted and the poster warned for going off topic.


Please note that this thread is not a personal chat box and that one liners and posts of little substance will be considered as spam and thus the poster will be subject to warnings and suspensions.

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More recent interviews of note:
April 27th, 2009: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/974/974529p1.html
June 25th, 2009: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24211 (particularly this quoted part)August 14th, 2009: http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/08/14/quakecon-2009-todd-howard-keynote-highlights/
August 17th, 2009: Pete clarify many things of what happen in QuakeCon in this blog: http://bethblog.com/index.php/2009/08/17/clarifying-about-next-elder-scrolls-game-mmo-etc/
January 6th, 2010: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/kotaku/2010/01/06/chatting-with-fallout-and-oblivions-todd-howard, at the 9:30-10:30 mark Todd Howard said: "[...] we spend a lot of time adding to the engine, [...] and we've sort of been doing that with the big new game [we've been] making since we finished Fallout 3. You know we finished Fallout 3 over a year ago so that whole time has been spent re-doing a large part of our basic technology[...]".
May 4th 2010: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/04/interview-bethesdas-pete-hines/ about future games.

PLEASE NOTE: AS PER MODERATOR REQUESTS IN THE PREVIOUS THREAD, PLEASE CONFINE THIS DISCUSSION TO SPECULATION TO BETHESDA GAME STUDIOS / TES:V. DISCUSSION OF ZENIMAX ONLINE STUDIOS PROJECTS OR AN ES MMO SHOULD GO IN THE http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1085332-official-tes-multiplayer-thread/

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Note that Bethesda Game Studios is NOT working on Fallout: New Vegas, Rage, Brink, or Hunted: The Demon's Forge -- Nor do they develop MMOs.

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After all the chaos of the last couple of threads it is now revealed that the cover of http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/07/08/7718298August_5F00_Cover_5F00_Revealed.aspx. Please do not make posts saying "I told you so" or "I was right", all that is over, the moderators had enough of that in the last few threads.
Now back to discussion of when the next Elder Scrolls game may be announced.

[ezra]

I know it's extremely unlikely, but has anyone heard anything new?? Any news at all??? :blink:

[abi]

Some thoughts on those sifting through the trademark details (I figured it would be worth re-posting this):

Several months ago Bethesda expanded their Fallout registration to include movies, and a search of IMDB revealed a post-apocalyptic movie titled "Fallout" in early production. Pretty cool huh? Except Bethesda isn't planning a Fallout film, and this other movie isn't a Bethesda backed film. Bethesda expanded their trademark to protect their assets and to make sure that this film wasn't trying to steal from them. The film was renamed "The Fallout" a short while later and then renamed again more recently - it is now "The Divide."


Not long before Oblivion's announcement Bethesda renewed their trademark for this and people got all hyped up about an imminent Oblivion announcement. They were right . . . . but it was a coincidence. Oblivion had been registered at the same time as Morrowind and it just happened that they were nearing the expiration at the same time they were nearing the announcement.


This isn't to say that this information is useless, we've learned about several TES titles beforehand because a fan has checked out registered trademarks of Zenimax. However if such apparently clear cut situation can be wrong then I seriously question the usefulness of sifting through TM minutia. If you're enjoying this then I won't get in your way but I wouldn't suggest getting overly enthusiastic - they're probably as accurate as reading tea leaves when it comes to predictions Bethesda's plans.

I know it's extremely unlikely, but has anyone heard anything new?? Any news at all??? :blink:

Nope, sorry.

[chinadoll]

Well, guess I'll go do some more searching to see what I can turn up...... :brokencomputer: Thanks anyways.

[james reed]

We can only hope the next gen systems drop sooner rather than later.

[Nadia Nad]

We can only hope the next gen systems drop sooner rather than later.

Actually either one has advantages. if Bethesda knows that it will be some time before the next generation consoles they'll probably plan on releasing something on this generation.

(It's even possible that they're working on something for this generation and beginning to work on an engine for their next one)

[Ryan Lutz]

We can only hope the next gen systems drop sooner rather than later.

I'd rather have TES V on this generation, so it doesn't suffer the poor optimization that Oblivion did due to coming out early in a console generation.

[Chris Jones]

We can only hope the next gen systems drop sooner rather than later.

I'd rather have TES V on this generation, so it doesn't suffer the poor optimization that Oblivion did due to coming out early in a console generation.

...and we're right back where we ended up :rolleyes:

There's really nothing new that's come up. The only thing remotely promising is Mr. Tissue Box's tweets with GI editors...if you have the stomach for more of that!

[JUDY FIGHTS]

Question: All those people who have been screaming from the rooftops, "Four years since an announcement!" are forgetting that there was this other game (really small time, most of you probably haven't heard of it, I think it was called Fallout 3 or something) that Bethesda put a decent amount of resources into making. This was less than two years ago. So it's only been two years since the last release of a game by BGS, which would make the time elapsed since then a perfectly reasonable amount of time to wait for an announcement, right?

TL;DR It's been two years since the last game, not four.

[Tiffany Carter]

Can't we all just pitch in and hire a private investigator or a ninja or something that can sneak into Bethesda, take some snapshots, capture and interrogate some of the developers and give us some clarification? I mean, how much could it cost? I've got $50.

[BethanyRhain]

Can't we all just pitch in and hire a private investigator or a ninja or something that can sneak into Bethesda, take some snapshots, capture and interrogate some of the developers and give us some clarification? I mean, how much could it cost? I've got $50.

Well the Russians are probably going for cheap now...

[kiss my weasel]

Can't we all just pitch in and hire a private investigator or a ninja or something that can sneak into Bethesda, take some snapshots, capture and interrogate some of the developers and give us some clarification? I mean, how much could it cost? I've got $50.

I've got about $350 I could put in...Though I do believe what you're suggesting is illegal, good sir.

So in that case, count me out. :hehe:

[Flesh Tunnel]

I've got about $350 I could put in...Though I do believe what you're suggesting is illegal, good sir.

So in that case, count me out. :hehe:

Oh, dang it! What about a jedi mind trick on Pete Hines or Todd Howard?

[Paula Rose]

Question: All those people who have been screaming from the rooftops, "Four years since an announcement!" are forgetting that there was this other game (really small time, most of you probably haven't heard of it, I think it was called Fallout 3 or something) that Bethesda put a decent amount of resources into making. This was less than two years ago. So it's only been two years since the last release of a game by BGS, which would make the time elapsed since then a perfectly reasonable amount of time to wait for an announcement, right?

TL;DR It's been two years since the last game, not four.

I'm pretty sure that Bethesda Game Studios partially began developing TES: V sometime after Oblivion's release (writing and concept art). I think after Fallout 3 is when they reworked the engine and now have a full fledge work force working on the next game.

[Alex Vincent]

I'd rather have TES V on this generation, so it doesn't suffer the poor optimization that Oblivion did due to coming out early in a console generation.

Was the optimization on morrowind grade A?

[Mr. Allen]

Oh, dang it! What about a jedi mind trick on Pete Hines or Todd Howard?

These are not the Elder Scrolls you're looking for~

[Penny Courture]

Was the optimization on morrowind grade A?

I don't believe so. Look at it's technical capabilities compared to later Xbox Original titles. Same with Oblivion to newer 360 titles. Morrowind and Oblivion are great games, but they;re poorly optimized. Fallout 3 seemed to be optimized pretty well, and it was made with the same engine as Oblivion, albeit slightly updated.

[Ladymorphine]

To reply to hungry donner in a sense I would like to say this.

Hungry Donner said something referring to "constructive speculation"

I don't believe that there is such thing as constructive speculation. I believe that speculation when it becomes constructive becomes in essence evidence. Therefore I do believe that any "constructive speculation" would then need be referred into such a category of evidence.

Thats my two cents on that sorry.

So as I see it when you type in elderscrolls 5 on google you get a story about four links down from 2008 saying that the next edition of the elderscrolls compendium would be released in 2010. Being in the two thousand and tenth year anno domini we know this now to be false. This is not yet the longest that the elder scrolls series has been dormant. (The four year gap between Redguard and Morrowind
being the longest) I personally do not see a difference in quality at this time between the recent squeals. Fable 3 looks the same as Fable 2, Mass Effect 2 looks like Mass Effect one. My point is that from Morrowind to Oblivion the Quality of everything was increased. I remember the first cinematic we watched of Oblivion my older brother said " That is the prettiest man I have ever seen" and at that point after seeing the in-game footage I knew that this was a brand new level. And so with my nonconstructive speculation I say unto you that the first time that Patrick Stewart introduced me to Cyrodiil and I first saw that Imperial City I felt pure and unbridled elation. I personally have high standards (I think) to get an emotional response to something like that. The only time I have felt an emotion like that in a game was when the horse died in Shadow of the Colossus (don't laugh I loved that horse). For me thats what elderscrolls embodies, The overwhelming D&D coming true total immersemant that rarely happens in a video game. From being a hardcoe platformer I know that at this point in the game it will be hard to find something to come above what Oblivion was. So my speculation which I will reiterate from those who have said it before is that probably the next age of gaming will see the release of the next elderscrolls will come on the precipice day when it comes just when the level of Quality increases enough that the true impact of Elder Scrolls can be realized by everyone.

Relfar Reinfeild

[Gen Daley]

To reply to hungry donner in a sense I would like to say this.

Hungry Donner said something referring to "constructive speculation"

I don't believe that there is such thing as constructive speculation. I believe that speculation when it becomes constructive becomes in essence evidence. Therefore I do believe that any "constructive speculation" would then need be referred into such a category of evidence.

Thats my two cents on that sorry.

So as I see it when you type in elderscrolls 5 on google you get a story about four links down from 2008 saying that the next edition of the elderscrolls compendium would be released in 2010. Being in the two thousand and tenth year anno domini we know this now to be false. This is not yet the longest that the elder scrolls series has been dormant. (The four year gap between Redguard and Morrowind
being the longest) I personally do not see a difference in quality at this time between the recent squeals. Fable 3 looks the same as Fable 2, Mass Effect 2 looks like Mass Effect one. My point is that from Morrowind to Oblivion the Quality of everything was increased. I remember the first cinematic we watched of Oblivion my older brother said " That is the prettiest man I have ever seen" and at that point after seeing the in-game footage I knew that this was a brand new level. And so with my nonconstructive speculation I say unto you that the first time that Patrick Stewart introduced me to Cyrodiil and I first saw that Imperial City I felt pure and unbridled elation. I personally have high standards (I think) to get an emotional response to something like that. The only time I have felt an emotion like that in a game was when the horse died in Shadow of the Colossus (don't laugh I loved that horse). For me thats what elderscrolls embodies, The overwhelming D&D coming true total immersemant that rarely happens in a video game. From being a hardcoe platformer I know that at this point in the game it will be hard to find something to come above what Oblivion was. So my speculation which I will reiterate from those who have said it before is that probably the next age of gaming will see the release of the next elderscrolls will come on the precipice day when it comes just when the level of Quality increases enough that the true impact of Elder Scrolls can be realized by everyone.

Relfar Reinfeild

Beautifully said. :trophy: :trophy: :trophy:

[Portions]

To reply to hungry donner in a sense I would like to say this.

Hungry Donner said something referring to "constructive speculation"

I don't believe that there is such thing as constructive speculation. I believe that speculation when it becomes constructive becomes in essence evidence. Therefore I do believe that any "constructive speculation" would then need be referred into such a category of evidence.

Thats my two cents on that sorry.

So as I see it when you type in elderscrolls 5 on google you get a story about four links down from 2008 saying that the next edition of the elderscrolls compendium would be released in 2010. Being in the two thousand and tenth year anno domini we know this now to be false. This is not yet the longest that the elder scrolls series has been dormant. (The four year gap between Redguard and Morrowind
being the longest) I personally do not see a difference in quality at this time between the recent squeals. Fable 3 looks the same as Fable 2, Mass Effect 2 looks like Mass Effect one. My point is that from Morrowind to Oblivion the Quality of everything was increased. I remember the first cinematic we watched of Oblivion my older brother said " That is the prettiest man I have ever seen" and at that point after seeing the in-game footage I knew that this was a brand new level. And so with my nonconstructive speculation I say unto you that the first time that Patrick Stewart introduced me to Cyrodiil and I first saw that Imperial City I felt pure and unbridled elation. I personally have high standards (I think) to get an emotional response to something like that. The only time I have felt an emotion like that in a game was when the horse died in Shadow of the Colossus (don't laugh I loved that horse). For me thats what elderscrolls embodies, The overwhelming D&D coming true total immersemant that rarely happens in a video game. From being a hardcoe platformer I know that at this point in the game it will be hard to find something to come above what Oblivion was. So my speculation which I will reiterate from those who have said it before is that probably the next age of gaming will see the release of the next elderscrolls will come on the precipice day when it comes just when the level of Quality increases enough that the true impact of Elder Scrolls can be realized by everyone.

Relfar Reinfeild

This. Nicely said...

[scorpion972]

I've enjoyed reading this read over the past month or so but have been surprised and disappointed at the lack of any announcement. Perhaps we're all jumping the gun a bit thinking every new month brings a new possibility of stars aligning ... just as we hoped days before. However, I also find the possibility of a new TES game sometimes too much to turn away from. E3 and GI were big dissapointments...even if we were grasping a straws.

Magazine covers, game expos, and trademark data has been traded around for quite awhile here. Perhaps they are our best indicators and most plausible data. However, a few threads ago I read a post speculating something to the effect "Bethesda might want to wait to see if the new 3D gaming hype is here to stay before they proceed with the next game". How viable could this point be? It makes sense to me from a business and creative stand point that Bethesda would want to keep their products as cutting edge and revolutionary as possible (as they always have!).


Second, what other technology releases such as Project Natal delay an otherwise earlier release?

[Mark]

As I understand it, games have to be developed with Kinect/Move/Wii in mind. I'm not clear on the timing, but I don't think that the technology was out when pre-production (presumably) started. Todd is also on record as not liking the Wii, so I doubt they'd go for Kinect/Move

[jasminε]

I have a feeling the Sept. GI will be Arkham Asylum 2. Again, there's no evidence to back it up, but since it was teased last year and Andrew Reiner just tweeted about the Batman soundtrack, it just gave me the feeling the cover would be the next Batman.

[Kim Bradley]

This is not yet the longest that the elder scrolls series has been dormant. (The four year gap between Redguard and Morrowind
being the longest)

So my speculation which I will reiterate from those who have said it before is that probably the next age of gaming will see the release of the next elderscrolls will come on the precipice day when it comes just when the level of Quality increases enough that the true impact of Elder Scrolls can be realized by everyone.

Well, first off, the largest gap was the 6 year break between Daggerfall and Morrowind.

And for the second bit, you're saying that TESV will be on the next generation of consoles (in an unnecessarily wordy way, I might add) because those would be the only consoles capable of handling the mind blowing graphics you assume TESV will have. Have you seen some of the games coming out nowadays? Oblivions graphics are outdated, Bethesda doesn't need to wait for a new generation to come out to show us the advanced graphics TESV will have, the current gen should be more than capable of handling it.

[jason worrell]

To reply to hungry donner in a sense I would like to say this.

Hungry Donner said something referring to "constructive speculation"

I don't believe that there is such thing as constructive speculation. I believe that speculation when it becomes constructive becomes in essence evidence. Therefore I do believe that any "constructive speculation" would then need be referred into such a category of evidence.

Thats my two cents on that sorry.

So as I see it when you type in elderscrolls 5 on google you get a story about four links down from 2008 saying that the next edition of the elderscrolls compendium would be released in 2010. Being in the two thousand and tenth year anno domini we know this now to be false. This is not yet the longest that the elder scrolls series has been dormant. (The four year gap between Redguard and Morrowind
being the longest) I personally do not see a difference in quality at this time between the recent squeals. Fable 3 looks the same as Fable 2, Mass Effect 2 looks like Mass Effect one. My point is that from Morrowind to Oblivion the Quality of everything was increased. I remember the first cinematic we watched of Oblivion my older brother said " That is the prettiest man I have ever seen" and at that point after seeing the in-game footage I knew that this was a brand new level. And so with my nonconstructive speculation I say unto you that the first time that Patrick Stewart introduced me to Cyrodiil and I first saw that Imperial City I felt pure and unbridled elation. I personally have high standards (I think) to get an emotional response to something like that. The only time I have felt an emotion like that in a game was when the horse died in Shadow of the Colossus (don't laugh I loved that horse). For me thats what elderscrolls embodies, The overwhelming D&D coming true total immersemant that rarely happens in a video game. From being a hardcoe platformer I know that at this point in the game it will be hard to find something to come above what Oblivion was. So my speculation which I will reiterate from those who have said it before is that probably the next age of gaming will see the release of the next elderscrolls will come on the precipice day when it comes just when the level of Quality increases enough that the true impact of Elder Scrolls can be realized by everyone.

Relfar Reinfeild

I love you.