Official TES V Speculation Thread # 54 : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:52 am

All this time it has said "general discussion" now it says "elder scrolls series discussion" but why the change...why now?

Good eye. :thumbsup: Thats interesting. I bet some moderators could elaborate on the name change.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:54 am

Good eye. :thumbsup: Thats interesting. I bet some moderators could elaborate on the name change.

"For discussion of general Elder Scrolls topics, including future games, etc."

It seems they opted for the name change due to the changed nature of this forum, by that I mean it now is primarily used for future project discussion, with a sprinkling of "favorite race" or "favorite class", etc.

As for any sort of time line: We can't safely have one even just using the trademarks or length of time between games. We'll simply have to wait until the game is announced before we can get an idea of when it will release.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:39 am

"For discussion of general Elder Scrolls topics, including future games, etc."

It seems they opted for the name change due to the changed nature of this forum, by that I mean it now is primarily used for future project discussion, with a sprinkling of "favorite race" or "favorite class", etc.

As for any sort of time line: We can't safely have one even just using the trademarks or length of time between games. We'll simply have to wait until the game is announced before we can get an idea of when it will release.

It already said "future games" before didn't it?

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:16 am

It already said "future games" before didn't it?

It said "general discussion" now it says "elder scrolls series discussion"

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:22 pm

Most likely, too much off-topic stuff.

What's more interesting is the LACK of movement on the trademark front. If the game were delayed, I'd have expected to see new clothing and manual trademark applications filed by now.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:54 pm

Most likely, too much off-topic stuff.

What's more interesting is the LACK of movement on the trademark front. If the game were delayed, I'd have expected to see new clothing and manual trademark applications filed by now.

Not really, as we have learned they can just let it die, and they still have plenty of time before the game is released. After all of the discovery done when the second game mark came out, the expiration dates really are kind of moot. They could even expand upon the mark slightly and file for a new one. It isn't that much of an issue any more.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:54 am

So is anyone actually going to QuakeCon? Or planning to, at least.

I don't know too much about the whole thing, but it seems like a big event for PC gamers.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:25 pm

It said "general discussion" now it says "elder scrolls series discussion"

Yes I know, but that's not what I was asking. In the description of it, I think it already said "future games".

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. They changed a bunch of things to make it more coherent. Like "mods" to "Oblivion mods".

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:29 am

It is possible, that famous quote has opened up a lot of controversy about TES. As to your question they were definitely 'telling the truth' in one way or another. That was Paul Oughton's personal opinion, not Beth's (no doubt he got some serious punishment for that slip :flamethrower: ) BGS never actually said anything about the TES series except that they will continue it eventually, presumably what it has been doing for the past couple of years. Maybe it was too early to make the call, or maybe that was speculation on his part judging from the end of the trademark (just as we had thought 2 weeks ago). It is too late to see the game released, but there is always the possibility of an announcement or hint of some sort.

As some of the published games get quieter, Beth will likely replace them with something else, like how right after Wet's publicity went down, the other published games (mainly Rage and Fallout) got more publicity. I'm hoping that as these other published games die down, you know what will finally be announced.

You make a great point here, and it's one I hadn't thought of until now.

New Vegas comes out in October, Brink in the Spring of 2011 and RAGE sometime in 2011 as well. All of which are being published by Bethesda.

With all that in mind, I think it would be unlikely that TES V wouldn't be announced anytime soon with all three of those games coming so soon. Both Brink and RAGE are brand new and no one really knows much about them as they don't have an established history. So marketing for those games I assume would be rather important if they want to convince people to buy it.

And with TES series being so big, such an announcement could trump those games.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:25 pm

You make a great point here, and it's one I hadn't thought of until now.

New Vegas comes out in October, Brink in the Spring of 2011 and RAGE sometime in 2011 as well. All of which are being published by Bethesda.

With all that in mind, I think it would be unlikely that TES V wouldn't be announced anytime soon with all three of those games coming so soon. Both Brink and RAGE are brand new and no one really knows much about them as they don't have an established history. So marketing for those games I assume would be rather important if they want to convince people to buy it.

And with TES series being so big, such an announcement could trump those games.

I definitely see your point, but I look at other publishers/developers and see them pumping out multiple titles big and small all at once. Look at Bioware as a great example. Blizzard will be doing the same thing in short order. I don't think it much matters since only FONV shares similar gaming elements like an open world and truer RPG elements that could really be comparative... but even then, the Fallout fan base isn't going to "pass" on FONV just because TESV gets announced...

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:38 am

The recent change in the title of this forum section probably doesn't mean anything. I guess they did it simply because they wanted the forums to have uniform looks as there has also been a Fallout Series Discussion for quite some time now.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:39 pm

Good eye. :thumbsup: Thats interesting. I bet some moderators could elaborate on the name change.

Wow, really grasping at straws now. This has nothing to do with TES V, so let's drop this line of "speculation" please.

It was a request put forward by the moderators as it makes it clearer which board the posts are on when doing searches - before they were just marked "General", "Cheat, Hints and Spoilers", etc, they did not have which game they were associated with. Admin kindly changed the titles. It has also been changed for the forum jump drop down box at the bottom right.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:33 pm

Were you actually speculating at the name change of the boards?

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:32 pm

Were you actually speculating at the name change of the boards?

Me? No.

I simply wanted to clear it up because I too know how ridiculous this thread can be. :lol:

So there you have it folks. Move along..

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:22 pm

I definitely see your point, but I look at other publishers/developers and see them pumping out multiple titles big and small all at once. Look at Bioware as a great example. Blizzard will be doing the same thing in short order. I don't think it much matters since only FONV shares similar gaming elements like an open world and truer RPG elements that could really be comparative... but even then, the Fallout fan base isn't going to "pass" on FONV just because TESV gets announced...

Maybe, we'll just have to wait and see. But I still think since they aren't marketing their games towards people like us who are more inclined to buy multiple Bethesda titles. They are more reluctant to make a TES V announcement. As both RAGE and Brink have no established history as they're both brand new. They may not be in the same genre but when you're selling to casual gamers, you have to remember they'll more likely to buy one game at a time, at least right now with the economy where it is.

But who knows...seems like most of this speculation isn't really getting anywhere lol.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:17 pm

Maybe, we'll just have to wait and see. But I still think since they aren't marketing their games towards people like us who are more inclined to buy multiple Bethesda titles. They are more reluctant to make a TES V announcement. As both RAGE and Brink have no established history as they're both brand new. They may not be in the same genre but when you're selling to casual gamers, you have to remember they'll more likely to buy one game at a time, at least right now with the economy where it is.

But who knows...seems like most of this speculation isn't really getting anywhere lol.

While I think these games will probably have a small impact on any major news regarding ESV (for example they wouldn't announce Rage going gold and confirm ESV on the same day) I don't think they would delay news or even the game for 6mo-1yr just to keep the spotlight on some new games that while look promising are still a gamble(sales-wise), whereas a new Elder Scrolls game is money in the bank.

Plus, If the release dates were a week apart maybe it would make a difference but when I'm at the store looking at new games, what is coming out 1-2 months down the road does not affect my purchases for that day. So why couldn't multiple big budget games be released in the same year?

I think we will hear something by the end of the year at the latest, just my two cents. :shrug:

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:15 am

While I think these games will probably have a small impact on any major news regarding ESV (for example they wouldn't announce Rage going gold and confirm ESV on the same day) I don't think they would delay news or even the game for 6mo-1yr just to keep the spotlight on some new games that while look promising are still a gamble(sales-wise), whereas a new Elder Scrolls game is money in the bank.

Plus, If the release dates were a week apart maybe it would make a difference but when I'm at the store looking at new games, what is coming out 1-2 months down the road does not affect my purchases for that day. So why couldn't multiple big budget games be released in the same year?

I think we will hear something by the end of the year at the latest, just my two cents. :shrug:

Your not the only gamer in the world. Just because when you go buy a game at the store your not affected by another big budget game coming out in the near future doesn't mean that many other people aren't.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:23 pm

Your not the only gamer in the world. Just because when you go buy a game at the store your not affected by another big budget game coming out in the near future doesn't mean that many other people aren't.

I would have to disagree, most people are decisive enough to chose one game over another (that is assuming that they have only $60, enough to buy one brand new game and nothing else). Also if that same person bought TES:V over RAGE, that money would go to the same place anyways, it is $60 that Bethesda would have anyways in the end. If RAGE and TES:V came out on the same exact day (for example, no speculation intended lol), no one's head would explode from not being able to decide between the two.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:37 am

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-red-dead-redemption-time-lapse

Such a fantastically pretty game, and there's a chance that the interview mentioning tooling up for their "next big project" involved TES V. I just hope they can approach what Rockstar did, I think I spent 15 or more hours just admiring the view (admittedly while traveling the somewhat extreme distances between stuff on my horse). Considering it ended at the 45 hour mark for me that was a full 1/3rd of the time. Though I hope they skip the sort of "crappy looking set lighting" they did for night time.

Anyway, I found a quote saying "I think the Elderscrolls Construction Set is the best product we've ever made." About Morrowind, it was somewhere on the official pages. So I think it's more than safe to assume whatever they've done it will include a fully featured (and hopefully somewhat better than Oblivion's slightly anemic) editor. And so whatever night time lighting they decide on we'll probably be able change it in any case.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:52 am

Your not the only gamer in the world. Just because when you go buy a game at the store your not affected by another big budget game coming out in the near future doesn't mean that many other people aren't.

If TES V was announced right now, do you know how many gamers that are looking forward to Bethesda's upcoming published titles will immediately chose not to get those titles, in favor of getting TES V? None. Why? Well, for one, there would not be an announced release date, so there'd be no reason to wait for lord knows how long for it instead of buying games that are coming out in just a few months. Hell, even if an announcement date was released, the date would at very least a year after the announcement of the game, as Bethesda has done for it's past games, which is not even close to "near future." If any gamer out there decided not to buy Bethesda's published titles in favor of waiting a year or more for TES V, well then they are certainly not in Bethesda's targeted market, which is, you know, actual gamers.

There is absolutely no risk in announcing TES V now. No fan that has an attention span larger than that of a fly that is looking forward to Bethesda's published titles coming out in the next few months will suddenly go "OOOOH! OOOOOOOOOOOH! SHINY SHINY NEW GAME COMIN OUT IN 2 YEARS! SCREW NEW VEGAS COMING OUT IN JUST A FEW MONTHS, I'LL WAIT YEARS FOR TES:V!!!!!!!"

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:57 am

I suspect that some sort of hint will be in the elder scrolls book number 2

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:03 pm

If TES V was announced right now, do you know how many gamers that are looking forward to Bethesda's upcoming published titles will immediately chose not to get those titles, in favor of getting TES V? None. Why? Well, for one, there would not be an announced release date, so there'd be no reason to wait for lord knows how long for it instead of buying games that are coming out in just a few months. Hell, even if an announcement date was released, the date would at very least a year after the announcement of the game, as Bethesda has done for it's past games, which is not even close to "near future." If any gamer out there decided not to buy Bethesda's published titles in favor of waiting a year or more for TES V, well then they are certainly not in Bethesda's targeted market, which is, you know, actual gamers.

There is absolutely no risk in announcing TES V now. No fan that has an attention span larger than that of a fly that is looking forward to Bethesda's published titles coming out in the next few months will suddenly go "OOOOH! OOOOOOOOOOOH! SHINY SHINY NEW GAME COMIN OUT IN 2 YEARS! SCREW NEW VEGAS COMING OUT IN JUST A FEW MONTHS, I'LL WAIT YEARS FOR TES:V!!!!!!!"

This is all that I was trying to get at.

and until recently Brink & Fallout NV were scheduled to be released this fall,(Brink got bumped to Q1 2011 but could still be released 2-3 months at the earliest 5 at the most after Fallout NV) My point is Fallout and Brink are a lot more alike than Elder Scrolls & Rage yet they saw no conflict with the potential release dates "competing against each other".

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:15 am

i don't think they had any plans on doing a 5th. and its a bloody shame to be certain!! and i think that if they do a 5th it will not be good.i doubt there is half of the people who made life a little sweeter even working there anymore.they have spread them selves to thin and it would be an after thought only now after the kick to the groin at E3. they have so @$#%ing sadly become a publisher,not a developer.it is a travesty and i feel bad.

my favorite boot died a few years ago(DMs) and now this?!?...so it goes.

but remember kids what my great friend said when he was alive...."everything was beautiful and nothing hurt"----K.V.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:23 am

i don't think they had any plans on doing a 5th. and its a bloody shame to be certain!! and i think that if they do a 5th it will not be good.i doubt there is half of the people who made life a little sweeter even working there anymore.they have spread them selves to thin and it would be an after thought only now after the kick to the groin at E3. they have so @$#%ing sadly become a publisher,not a developer.it is a travesty and i feel bad.

my favorite boot died a few years ago(DMs) and now this?!?...so it goes.

but remember kids what my great friend said when he was alive...."everything was beautiful and nothing hurt"----K.V.

The development team and publisher are DIFFERENT companies.

Bethesda Softworks publishes, Bethesda Game Studios develops. Their development team is large. They are currently working on a game in full-production, which is extremely likely to be ESV and they aren't going to reveal anything until they are ready.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:59 pm

The development team and publisher are DIFFERENT companies.

Bethesda Softworks publishes, Bethesda Game Studios develops. Their development team is large. They are currently working on a game in full-production, which is extremely likely to be ESV and they aren't going to reveal anything until they are ready.

Heck. I'd be happy with whatever they have coming out. They made TES series. Maybe this is a new beginning?