Official TES V Speculation Thread # 55

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:07 pm

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I didn't notice anything particularly fishy, just that perhaps they're tired of being asked. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/insidexbox/video/suam/default.htm for those of you who want to decide for yourselves.

EDIT: It's at the 9:30 mark of Episode 22
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:55 pm

I didn't notice anything particularly fishy, just that perhaps they're tired of being asked. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/insidexbox/video/suam/default.htm for those of you who want to decide for yourselves.

EDIT: It's at the 9:30 mark of Episode 22


I have to agree with you. I think their reaction and short reply came from the fact that they probably get tons of questions about ES:V. Nothing too suspicious about that for me.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:44 pm

In the newest Sent U A Message, a question got through that was "Is there any info on an upcoming Elder Scrolls 5?"

They just replied with a simple "No, no there isn't."

This is just a grain of sand, but these guys just seem so fishy haha.. you have to watch their body language, etc to understand.

P.S. That's the first question I've seen them answer about a game with no info out. It's also the shortest I've ever seen them answer a question.

Just thought I should let you guys know this!

EDIT: Right after thar question, they got a question about unannounced DLC, then after that, an unannounced XBLA game, and in both answers, they said they contacted those developers and got replies. They either didn't bother contacting Beth, or Beth gave them a middle finger haha.

You are barking up the mother of all 'wrong trees' IMO. Those guys are not going to have insider info.

The only press folk who ever regularly get an inside edge (and an embargo/NDA/gag-order) are those in the old-school monthly magazine business - who, because of printing and distro time need lead time on stories so their news isn't always a month and a half late.

If there was BGS info, two dudes on a platform-specific videopodcast distributed on a platform-specific network on a weekly basis would not be in the loop for the early word.

They were, and are, goofing around. I'm sure they are quite tired of being asked at this point.

If you want to watch people for clues of early info, watch your deadtree press folk, like the Game Informer crew - who in order to do a cover exclusive announcement have to be in the loop more than a month before the public date.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:36 am

You are barking up the mother of all 'wrong trees' IMO. Those guys are not going to have insider info.

The only press folk who ever regularly get an inside edge (and an embargo/NDA/gag-order) are those in the old-school monthly magazine business - who, because of printing and distro time need lead time on stories so their news isn't always a month and a half late.

If there was BGS info, two dudes on a platform-specific videopodcast distributed on a platform-specific network on a weekly basis would not be in the loop for the early word.

They were, and are, goofing around. I'm sure they are quite tired of being asked at this point.

If you want to watch people for clues of early info, watch your deadtree press folk, like the Game Informer crew - who in order to do a cover exclusive announcement have to be in the loop more than a month before the public date.


Oh believe me, I understand. That's why I said it was a grain of salt. I just mentioned it because they've talked about elder scrolls v in 3 of the last 5 podcasts. I guess they do get a lot of questions regarding it.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:20 pm

New interview with Todd, it gives me hope. :foodndrink:
http://www.industrygamers.com/news/bethesdas-todd-howard-on-rpg-development-3d-not-supporting-nintendo-and-more/1/
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:27 am

New interview with Todd, it give me hope. :foodndrink:
http://www.industrygamers.com/news/bethesdas-todd-howard-on-rpg-development-3d-not-supporting-nintendo-and-more/1/

Awesome interview, thanks. Even when Todd says he can't comment on his current game or a new TES game, the interviewer STILL keeps pushing him for TES info! That's what I want to see!

Todd Howard: "I've worked with a lot of guys for over 10 years – the group that did Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3. We just really enjoy doing what we're doing. We don’t want to be doing a ton of stuff. There will definitely be – and I'm glad everybody’s patient with us – gaps and sometimes bigger gaps between the titles. We hope it's worth the payoff. Thanks for your patience and bear with us. Hopefully it will be worth the wait."

Obviously nothing concrete, but that seems to me like their project probably isn't a new IP. They enjoy the projects they've been a part of over the last ten years, and they don't like too much on their plate. His replies mentioning future TES titles were pretty ambiguous though, so I'm still not 100% sure the project is TES:V rather than FO:4. He is really good at providing non-committal and misleading answers though, as we all well know :P
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:57 am

New interview with Todd, it give me hope. :foodndrink:
http://www.industrygamers.com/news/bethesdas-todd-howard-on-rpg-development-3d-not-supporting-nintendo-and-more/1/


Nice interview!

There will definitely be – and I'm glad everybody’s patient with us – gaps and sometimes bigger gaps between the titles. We hope it's worth the payoff. Thanks for your patience and bear with us. Hopefully it will be worth the wait.


This, to me, shows that they're making TES V. There's been a huge, 4 1/2 year gap between Oblivion and now, as compared to the 2 years since Fallout 3, so I can only assume by "sometimes bigger gaps" he means the humongous gap between TES games.

But it's okay Todd, we've been patient for this long... I think we can keep going for a while longer.

TH: We do have an estimate, but I'm not allowed to talk about it. Even right now it's an estimate.


That's pretty reassuring. At least they're far enough along that they have a general idea of when they'll be done, even if it's just an estimate.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:04 pm

New interview with Todd, it give me hope. :foodndrink:
http://www.industrygamers.com/news/bethesdas-todd-howard-on-rpg-development-3d-not-supporting-nintendo-and-more/1/

Finally, something worth posting in this thread after a long while. :goodjob:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:16 pm

That's pretty reassuring. At least they're far enough along that they have a general idea of when they'll be done, even if it's just an estimate.


Note that the estimate he's talking about here is the estimate of when they'll make an announcement, not when they'll be done with the game.

What do you guys think about this bit:
One of the big things in my memory that flavored that game was the move to the 360 and the new hardware. It was all so new and there was a lot of gameplay changes along with that. How are people going to experience this kind of game? There were a lot of technical hurdles, and we’ve gotten a bit better at managing that. I don’t know how that would translate to a future Elder Scrolls... You spend a lot of time trying to design a game, but then also deal with all new technology. We’re trying to, going forward, find a better balance between those two, so that we’re not just satisfied with something working.


Does this lend any credence to the folks who claim a release on the next generation of consoles?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:21 pm

I don't think his comment means "next gen console!".

It seems to be more of a management thing than a technical answer:

"Ok, so we had some rough spots moving to the 360 in Oblivion because of the massive technical leap. How do we position ourselves for the next-gen systems? Do we need better testing procedures? Do we need to think of new control schemes that aren't historically TES-like? How does having id as family affect our transition to next-gen systems?"

Like I have repeatedly maintained, the component deals are usually known long before release. Until someone can tell me which new consoles will have what GPUs and what CPUs, I'm not going to make plans to watch for deliveries of them at work.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:36 pm

I hope Bethesda being silent for 4 years and 5 months means that, when they do announce it, the amount of time between the announcement and release date will be short. Morrowind took over 2 years before it was released, and Oblivion took 1 1/2 years, but both were delayed at least twice. Fallout 3's release date was only 1 year and 4 months after the very first content was shown. Hopefully due to all this time in development, Bethesda will be able to avoid any delays and release it around a year after the announcement. I wouldn't expect them to be able to make the time any short than that though.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:59 am

New interview with Todd, it give me hope. :foodndrink:
http://www.industrygamers.com/news/bethesdas-todd-howard-on-rpg-development-3d-not-supporting-nintendo-and-more/1/



Great find. There is nothing in there that says what they are working on isn't new IP, but, you know, things are pretty cool.

What I didn't realize is that the internal team isn't working on any of the announced projects. This gives good reason to think that there could be a Elder Scrolls in the blender at the moment. I was actually quite happy to read the interview, it was just generally interesting. I was also happy to see the interviewer push the ES question, a good maneuver, unfortunately he failed!



Edit: I also learned that the Zenimax MMO will be a Fallout based. Kind of funny, given all the screaming over here at the prospect of a ES MMO. Everything seems to have fallen into place, as it were!
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:16 pm

Edit: I also learned that the Zenimax MMO will be a Fallout based. Kind of funny, given all the screaming over here at the prospect of a ES MMO. Everything seems to have fallen into place, as it were!


What? Where did you hear that? I can guarantee you that Zenimax's MMO is not Fallout based, for the simple reason that Bethesda stated, during their court battle with Interplay, that the MMO they were working on was not a Fallout MMO. Unless you learned that Bethesda doesn't mind committing perjury, I'd have to say that what you learned was wrong.

(Source= Public court documents)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:22 am

Great find. There is nothing in there that says what they are working on isn't new IP, but, you know, things are pretty cool.

What I didn't realize is that the internal team isn't working on any of the announced projects. This gives good reason to think that there could be a Elder Scrolls in the blender at the moment. I was actually quite happy to read the interview, it was just generally interesting. I was also happy to see the interviewer push the ES question, a good maneuver, unfortunately he failed!



Edit: I also learned that the Zenimax MMO will be a Fallout based. Kind of funny, given all the screaming over here at the prospect of a ES MMO. Everything seems to have fallen into place, as it were!

Well we've known Bethesda's team isn't developing any of the published games ever since they were first announced, and I was lead to believe that the one thing Zenimax's MMO certainly isn't is Fallout Online, since Interplay won the court case to continue development of their own Fallout MMO, clearing indicating that Zenimax isn't planning on advancing in the Fallout MMO sector themselves. That is what leads people to believe it's a TES MMO.

Also, the quote from Todd: "I've worked with a lot of guys for over 10 years – the group that did Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3. We just really enjoy doing what we're doing. We don’t want to be doing a ton of stuff." Probably could be taken as an indication that their new game isn't a new IP. Probably.

Edit: Beaten by Anti on the MMO facts :shifty:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:11 pm

Also, the quote from Todd: "I've worked with a lot of guys for over 10 years – the group that did Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3. We just really enjoy doing what we're doing. We don’t want to be doing a ton of stuff." Probably could be taken as an indication that their new game isn't a new IP. Probably.


I'd say so. The problem that Bethesda finds themselves with is that each of their games are gigantic undertakings that take years to make. Two IPs, TES and Fallout, may seem like a tiny number for most developers, but when your games are as huge as Bethesda's, two IPs is plenty. I really doubt they want to deal with three IPs, at this point in time anyway.
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I'd say so. The problem that Bethesda finds themselves with is that each of their games are gigantic undertakings that take years to make. Two IPs, TES and Fallout, may seem like a tiny number for most developers, but when your games are as huge as Bethesda's, two IPs is plenty. I really doubt they want to deal with three IPs, at this point in time anyway.

I agree. It also seems to be becoming standard for big western developers to follow a two IP cycle.

Bioware alternate Mass Effect releases with Dragon Age releases.
Blizzard are likely to start alternating Starcraft 2 releases and expansions with Diablo 3 releases and expansions.
Bethesda could certainly alternate TES with Fallout.

Allowing other developers to build new IPs on the side which Bethesda can then publish would allow the internal team to keep building on the games they love. So long as they enjoy sticking to just two IPs, I'm very happy for this trend to continue. I'm sure a point will come when the team feels the urge to move onto new fields though and start up a new IP. If Obsidian does a great job with FO:NV then perhaps they will be more than happy to allow them to create a game in one of their main IPs from the ground-up (FO5 or TES:VI?) to keep the fanbase happy while they create a whole new IP. That's wildly futuristic speculation though!
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:20 am

so what did we learn for that interview.

1. Bethesda kept the ZeniMax buying of ID a secret last E3....so they are good at keeping things under their hat.
2. Todd says they are enjoying what they have been doing, so that means they should be making a new single player RPG.
3. Bethesda has a timeframe for when they want ot annonce this new game. Good news, means they have an actual goal to work towards.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:18 pm

Am I the only one that read this and thinks there's actually nothing in process right now?

(emphasis by me)

IG: So when are we going to hear about another Elder Scrolls game?

TH: I wish I could give you an answer to that right now, but I honestly can’t. It’s a franchise that we love and it’s very close to our hearts. It’s a game that I can still play today, Oblivion, and have fun. One day, we hope there’s another one too.

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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:54 pm

I must have read a different interview. NOTHING in that made me think, ESV is coming next. The opposite, in fact. I get the feeling that they haven't even started on ESV and that we will be seeing ANOTHER new Fallout game first. Either that or they are taking a LONG time to retool their engine. I don't think we will see ESV for another 3-4 years. :(


I wish I could give you an answer to that right now, but I honestly can’t. It’s a franchise that we love and it’s very close to our hearts. It’s a game that I can still play today, Oblivion, and have fun. One day, we hope there’s another one too.


There were a lot of technical hurdles, and we’ve gotten a bit better at managing that. I don’t know how that would translate to a future Elder Scrolls.


There will definitely be – and I'm glad everybody’s patient with us – gaps and sometimes bigger gaps between the titles.

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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:38 pm

Am I the only one that read this and thinks there's actually nothing in process right now?

(emphasis by me)


Nope, see my post below, haha.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:09 pm

I think the fact that he can't give an answer is reassuring. Bethesda are obviously working on something, Fallout is being handled by Obsidian at the moment. I can't say if we will get an announcement in the near future but I guess we just have to be patient as they really seem to be tweaking the engine.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:14 pm

I think the fact that he can't give an answer is reassuring. Bethesda are obviously working on something, Fallout is being handled by Obsidian at the moment. I can't say if we will get an announcement in the near future but I guess we just have to be patient as they really seem to be tweaking the engine.


I agree that they are working on "something". I'm just not so sure that "something" is ESV. :shrug:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:16 am

Am I the only one that read this and thinks there's actually nothing in process right now?

(emphasis by me)


I think that we should try to avoid digging into his remarks too much. It looks like the interview was conducted at E3, and that was already a month or two ago. A lot can happen in that time, and I'd much prefer them to stay silent and have definitive answers, rather than saying their next big project will be out by X date and come back a months later saying things have change or they'll be delayed. Todd likes to throw people off the scent of his next project. I would assume the less the dev team feels the pressure, the better they perform. And aguably, I think Todd and Bethesda are awesome for not throwing around empty promises.

I can also say, that even though I was dissapointed FO 3 wasn't ES V, I still loved and played FO 3 for probably 200 or so hours. So I can safely say that whatever they have in the pipeline, I will thoroughly enjoy. What we can probably deduce is FO 4 isn't their next project as they want to avoid saturating the market with FO. As they have said in the past, it's good for people to wait for products. I think what is more likely, is a new IP or the ES V.

My guess is ES V, if I was Todd Howard, I would be talking like it isn't coming out until it's officially announced. The more he hints, the more pressure.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:33 am

Todd Howard to John Carmack: "Some of our conversations are not pure technical: 'How do you solve your shadows this way?'"

Ooh... Full real-time shadows anyone? :P



Wow, that was a really good interview.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:06 am

In the newest Sent U A Message, a question got through that was "Is there any info on an upcoming Elder Scrolls 5?"

They just replied with a simple "No, no there isn't."

This is just a grain of sand, but these guys just seem so fishy haha.. you have to watch their body language, etc to understand.

P.S. That's the first question I've seen them answer about a game with no info out. It's also the shortest I've ever seen them answer a question.

Just thought I should let you guys know this!

EDIT: Right after thar question, they got a question about unannounced DLC, then after that, an unannounced XBLA game, and in both answers, they said they contacted those developers and got replies. They either didn't bother contacting Beth, or Beth gave them a middle finger haha.

It sounds as if they are just tired of answering the question because they really just shrugged it off and didn't put any effort into it they just said "No"
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