[Cat]

How does it make even a shred of sense that they'd be focusing on Fallout 4 while Obsidian makes New Vegas. They almost certainly focusing on TES V and doing a bit of Falout 4 development while Obsidian handles Fallout. Bethesda let Obisidian make a Fallout game because they knew they'd be working on TES V, not because they wanted to work on Fallout 4.

I would really like to think that they were mainly focusing on TES V rather than Fallout 4, but I haven't found ANY solid information on TES V. I read about Bethesda's plan for Fallout 4 over a year ago, and the article I read was a year old at the time. That's why I am under the impression that it will be released first. I also wasn't implying they passed over New Vegas because they "wanted to work on Fallout 4". I just knew that they had split up who was responsible for what.

However, I really hope you are right and TES V shows up first! I would really like Bethesda to just give us a heads up soon. We're all getting restless after waiting years.

Maybe they'll announce something at Quakecon next week?

[Felix Walde]

I would really like to think that they were mainly focusing on TES V rather than Fallout 4, but I haven't found ANY solid information on TES V. I read about Bethesda's plan for Fallout 4 over a year ago, and the article I read was a year old at the time. That's why I am under the impression that it will be released first. I also wasn't implying they passed over New Vegas because they "wanted to work on Fallout 4". I just knew that they had split up who was responsible for what.

However, I really hope you are right and TES V shows up first! I would really like Bethesda to just give us a heads up soon. We're all getting restless after waiting years.

Maybe they'll announce something at Quakecon next week?

Through everything we've seen, it's far more likely they're working on ESV instead of Fallout 4. With that article back then saying that Todd Howard wanted there to be less time between Fallout games, that was made clear by a recent interview in which an Obsidian developer said that Fallout: New Vegas is a FO game for the fans so they don't have to wait too long in between Fallout 3 and 4.

[Sophie Miller]

Through everything we've seen, it's far more likely they're working on ESV instead of Fallout 4. With that article back then saying that Todd Howard wanted there to be less time between Fallout games, that was made clear by a recent interview in which an Obsidian developer said that Fallout: New Vegas is a FO game for the fans so they don't have to wait too long in between Fallout 3 and 4.

That's awesome news!

[christelle047]

Through everything we've seen, it's far more likely they're working on ESV instead of Fallout 4. With that article back then saying that Todd Howard wanted there to be less time between Fallout games, that was made clear by a recent interview in which an Obsidian developer said that Fallout: New Vegas is a FO game for the fans so they don't have to wait too long in between Fallout 3 and 4.

Well it seems they're perfectly content with making Elder Scrolls fans wait....

[Lil'.KiiDD]

Well it seems they're perfectly content with making Elder Scrolls fans wait....

Likely because they know the majority of Elder Scrolls fans would [censored] and moan about another developer making a TES game. That is, assuming Bethesda would even want to trust another developer with making a TES game. The people at Obsidian worked on the original Fallout games, so they know how to make a Fallout game, however nobody knows how to make a TES game besides Bethesda.

[willow]

Likely because they know the majority of Elder Scrolls fans would [censored] and moan about another developer making a TES game. That is, assuming Bethesda would even want to trust another developer with making a TES game. The people at Obsidian worked on the original Fallout games, so they know how to make a Fallout game, however nobody knows how to make a TES game besides Bethesda.

If I was Todd, I wouldn't let any company try to do an Elder Scrolls game. ES is Bethesda's crack.

[Big mike]

I was disappointed that the September cover wasn't TES V.... But I was almost sure that it wasn't going to be what we all wanted.

About the whole wait thing, I did not enjoy Fallout 3 very much and I feel like Bethesda wasted their time on it. Also, I think at this point, TES V will be released mid-2012 to early-2013

[Jade]

I was disappointed that the September cover wasn't TES V.... But I was almost sure that it wasn't going to be what we all wanted.

About the whole wait thing, I did not enjoy Fallout 3 very much and I feel like Bethesda wasted their time on it. Also, I think at this point, TES V will be released mid-2012 to early-2013

I hope they don't stretch it out so that it will be released on the next gen consoles. I can almost see them doing that.

[Prisca Lacour]

I did not enjoy Fallout 3 very much and I feel like Bethesda wasted their time on it. Also, I think at this point, TES V will be released mid-2012 to early-2013

I loved Fallout 3, and it was, frankly, my favorite game ever. I loved it so much, in fact, that I'm confident that I wont ever like a game more than it unless it's another Fallout game or a TES game. I really like Morrowind and Oblivion but Fallout 3 was just amazing (imo).

Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but I'm just saying, it certainly doesn't feel like they wasted their time on it to me.

Besides, if they didn't make it, I wouldn't be here. ^_^

...I just made some of you hate Fallout 3 more didn't I. >.>

Also, I think at this point, TES V will be released mid-2012 to early-2013

If they announce it sometime in Fall 2010, it's still possible that it will be released in late 2011.

[Chloe Botham]

Through everything we've seen, it's far more likely they're working on ESV instead of Fallout 4. With that article back then saying that Todd Howard wanted there to be less time between Fallout games, that was made clear by a recent interview in which an Obsidian developer said that Fallout: New Vegas is a FO game for the fans so they don't have to wait too long in between Fallout 3 and 4.

Mr Tissue, you are one of the best people here in my opinion (along with a couple of others) who frequently contribute worthwhile information, so I don't like to disagree with you. At least this time I am only partially disagreeing with you Just like with TES, I will assume that some level of production commences when the previous title is completed, therefore I am confident that BGS is developing FO4 as we speak, albeit in a smaller form. The larger team devoted to the next release, which along with you I believe will be TESV. The other thing to think about though is that whereas TES has precedence to out-shine the previous iteration by way of reinvention upon the latest techno-spoils of man, the FO franchise is not held to such a standard... in fact, the bastardization to Obsidion is veritable proof that we cannot hold FO to the standards of TES. Therefore we could see a FO title before a TES simply because that need not take as much care.

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I loved Fallout 3, and it was, frankly, my favorite game ever. I loved it so much, in fact, that I'm confident that I wont ever like a game more than it unless it's another Fallout game or a TES game. I really like Morrowind and Oblivion but Fallout 3 was just amazing (imo).

Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but I'm just saying, it certainly doesn't feel like they wasted their time on it to me.

Besides, if they didn't make it, I wouldn't be here. ^_^

...I just made some of you hate Fallout 3 more didn't I. >.>



If they announce it sometime in Fall 2010, it's still possible that it will be released in late 2011.

I'm going to make them hate Fallout 3 even more. Oblivion remains my favorite game of all time, but if it weren't for Fallout 3, I wouldn't be here, either. It was something about Fallout 3 that I was interested in(can't remember what) that caused me to look up the topic and find the forums. That was last August. Happy 1 year anniversary for me. :celebrate:

I really hope so.

[CxvIII]

If they announce it sometime in Fall 2010, it's still possible that it will be released in late 2011.

Noooo it's not possible!!! Don't fill me with hope! I need to be as pessimistic as possible so that the sting of disappointment will never be too powerful!

I feel like they will take their time and release it about two years after the announcement, which means mid 2012 minimum I suppose.

[Luna Lovegood]

in fact, the bastardization to Obsidion is veritable proof that we cannot hold FO to the standards of TES. Therefore we could see a FO title before a TES simply because that need not take as much care.

Now I don't know about that. They'll work on Fallout 4 just as hard and for just as long as they're working on TES V. Them letting Obsidian make a Fallout game has nothing to do with them caring about the series less, it's because unlike The Elder Scrolls, there are 2 developers out there who know how to make a Fallout game, and Bethesda was smart and utilized them to make another one so they could focus on TES V for the time being. If Bethesda truly cared less about the series they would have let New Vegas be called Fallout 4, but they didn't, because they knew that New Vegas is really just a gigantic expansion to Fallout 3 and Bethesda likes to vastly improve upon it's sequels, something that New Vegas isn't doing.

[^~LIL B0NE5~^]

Now I don't know about that. They'll work on Fallout 4 just as hard and for just as long as they're working on TES V. Them letting Obsidian make a Fallout game has nothing to do with them caring about the series less, it's because unlike The Elder Scrolls, there are 2 developers out there who know how to make a Fallout game, and Bethesda was smart and utilized them to make another one so they could focus on TES V for the time being. If Bethesda truly cared less about the series they would have let New Vegas be called Fallout 4, but they didn't, because they knew that New Vegas is really just a gigantic expansion to Fallout 3 and Bethesda likes to vastly improve upon it's sequels, something that New Vegas isn't doing.

Fallout 4 will likely come out during the next generation of consoles, right? I can't wait to see that(shiny graphics).

[Jason White]

It's been so long since Oblivion came out.......I'm betting that something will be leaked by the end of the year.

[Matthew Warren]

Now I don't know about that. They'll work on Fallout 4 just as hard and for just as long as they're working on TES V. Them letting Obsidian make a Fallout game has nothing to do with them caring about the series less, it's because unlike The Elder Scrolls, there are 2 developers out there who know how to make a Fallout game, and Bethesda was smart and utilized them to make another one so they could focus on TES V for the time being. If Bethesda truly cared less about the series they would have let New Vegas be called Fallout 4, but they didn't, because they knew that New Vegas is really just a gigantic expansion to Fallout 3 and Bethesda likes to vastly improve upon it's sequels, something that New Vegas isn't doing.

Don't get me wrong, they aren't going to work any less hard on FO4... all I am saying is that TES has a history of:

1) Graphics innovation
2) Gameplay changes
3) Reinvention (i.e. starting completely from scratch, rebuilding the engine and everything else anew)

Fallout does not have to follow this format. As seen with Obsidian, they are able to use the same engine and graphics and even farm it out without consequence, these factors cannot be attributed to TES. They aren't going to make a crappy game, ever. They just aren't going to make Fallout become TES either.

[{Richies Mommy}]

I hope FO4 has anew art style at least. Considering how there is almost always 2 years in between the announcement and the release I would speculate that there will be an announcement soon. Late this year or early next year if not at QC 2010.

[Andrea Pratt]

Don't get me wrong, they aren't going to work any less hard on FO4... all I am saying is that TES has a history of:

1) Graphics innovation
2) Gameplay changes
3) Reinvention (i.e. starting completely from scratch, rebuilding the engine and everything else anew)

Fallout does not have to follow this format. As seen with Obsidian, they are able to use the same engine and graphics and even farm it out without consequence, these factors cannot be attributed to TES. They aren't going to make a crappy game, ever. They just aren't going to make Fallout become TES either.

Fallout: New Vegas is not a sequel to Fallout 3 and Bethesda didn't make it. Bethesda has farmed out the TES to other developers in the past, though the developers were in the Zenimax family. Just like how the relatively crappy mobile games that Bethesda farmed TES out for weren't sequels, New Vegas isn't a sequel. I think we should wait for Fallout 4 until we say that Fallout wont follow that format, which it likely will.

[Killah Bee]

Fallout: New Vegas is not a sequel to Fallout 3 and Bethesda didn't make it. Bethesda has farmed out the TES to other developers in the past, though the developers were in the Zenimax family. Just like how the relatively crappy mobile games that Bethesda farmed TES out for weren't sequels, New Vegas isn't a sequel. I think we should wait for Fallout 4 until we say that Fallout wont follow that format, which it likely will.

I whole heartedly agree that we will have to wait to see; but what I can speculate for sure (haha yes I understand how funny that is) is that there isn't yet a statement from BGS declaring that with each new installment they start from the ground up as there has been for TES. I can also speculate that FONV will be a BIG seller... and unlike the outsourced mobile games of yore, you are comparing apples to oranges. I think that Fallout is the cash cow to make BGS worthwhile to the Zenimax boardroom, and TES is the franchise that legitimizes the developers to the world. I loves me my Fallout, and Three Dog ROCKS. What I will say is that Three Dog and Vivec resonate very differently in my heart. I don't see them as the SAME thing, I see them as different things, both of which are wonderful in their own right. What I will say, to keep this post on target, is that when we look at the development cycle of BGS, I must say for sure that there are people at Bethesda right now who are working on FO4. Could they get it done sooner that TESV? Well, yeah, considering that Obsidian did it without all the history. Yeah, it isn't a direct sequel... but what makes you think that FO4 on current gen will be a "poor" game? It could be done, in New Orleans for example, or Vatican City, or Moscow, or New Delhi.

A good game doesn't have to be TES. TES has to be TES though... don't give me some piece of [censored] and call it TES. Not that I am calling Fallout a piece of [censored]... just, honestly, I expect TES to BLOW MY F#@KING MIND and I expect Fallout to Rock My World.

[Yvonne]

Well, yeah, considering that Obsidian did it without all the history.

What do you mean without all the history? Obsidian is mostly full of the same people who made Fallout 1 and 2! All Obsidian had to do was learn how to use the GECK and make a world that looked different than Fallout 3. Bethesda effectively cut a year or two off of Obsidian's timeline by not making them start from scratch. This is why New Vegas only took 2 years to make.

Yeah, it isn't a direct sequel... but what makes you think that FO4 on current gen will be a "poor" game? It could be done, in New Orleans for example, or Vatican City, or Moscow, or New Delhi.

I don't think Fallout 4 on the current gen would be a poor game, because I don't think it will be on the current gen at all. If Fallout 4 comes out after TES V, which it almost certainly will, imo, it will be out for next gen consoles. Bethesda had a 2 year head start on making TES V and this thread still seems to argue back and forth about whether or not it will be out this gen or not. If we think TES V may come out on next gen consoles there's no way Fallout 4 wont.

[Andrew Tarango]

What do you mean without all the history? Obsidian is mostly full of the same people who made Fallout 1 and 2! All Obsidian had to do was learn how to use the GECK and make a world that looked different than Fallout 3. Bethesda effectively cut a year or two off of Obsidian's timeline by not making them start from scratch. This is why New Vegas only took 2 years to make.



I don't think Fallout 4 on the current gen would be a poor game, because I don't think it will be on the current gen at all. If Fallout 4 comes out after TES V, which it almost certainly will, imo, it will be out for next gen consoles. Bethesda had a 2 year head start on making TES V and this thread still seems to argue back and forth about whether or not it will be out this gen or not. If we think TES V may come out on next gen consoles there's no way Fallout 4 wont.

What?!

Posted Today, 01:47 AM
SyltStryder, on 05 August 2010 - 10:40 PM, said:
Well, yeah, considering that Obsidian did it without all the history.

I can't even find that quote... I never said that, and I am not ignorant. Members of Obsidian created Fallout. Don't put words in my mouth.

[jodie]

What?!

Posted Today, 01:47 AM
SyltStryder, on 05 August 2010 - 10:40 PM, said:
Well, yeah, considering that Obsidian did it without all the history.

I can't even find that quote... I never said that, and I am not ignorant. Members of Obsidian created Fallout. Don't put words in my mouth.

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[Rachel Cafferty]

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Shame on me.

Sorry!

...ugh can someone help me get this big ass foot out of my mouth??

[Zosia Cetnar]

i posted this before
Fallout 4 Coming in 2011?
http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/fallout-3/923057p1.html



Fans of the post-Apocalyptic game, set in Washington, D.C., won't have to wait another decade for "Fallout 4." Howard said he believes three years is a good time frame between games.



Gamers have been waiting 10 years for Bethesda Softworks' "Fallout 3," for PC, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. "I think it's good for people to miss things," said Todd Howard, executive producer of the game. "Ten years between 'Fallout' is a bit long, but I think there's this nostalgia factor." Fans of the post-Apocalyptic game, set in Washington, D.C., won't have to wait another decade for "Fallout 4." Howard said he believes three years is a good time frame between games.


i will bet on FO4 before elder scrolls

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2008/10/bethesda-expect/

[JERMAINE VIDAURRI]

i posted this before
Fallout 4 Coming in 2011?
http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/fallout-3/923057p1.html



Fans of the post-Apocalyptic game, set in Washington, D.C., won't have to wait another decade for "Fallout 4." Howard said he believes three years is a good time frame between games.



Gamers have been waiting 10 years for Bethesda Softworks' "Fallout 3," for PC, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. "I think it's good for people to miss things," said Todd Howard, executive producer of the game. "Ten years between 'Fallout' is a bit long, but I think there's this nostalgia factor." Fans of the post-Apocalyptic game, set in Washington, D.C., won't have to wait another decade for "Fallout 4." Howard said he believes three years is a good time frame between games.


i will bet on FO4 before elder scrolls

I'm pretty sure New Vegas is this the "new Fallout" he was talking about. Considering that statement was made right around the time Fallout 3 was released, Bethesda's plans were probably much different back then then they are now.

Besides, Bethesda actually said they want a new http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2008/10/bethesda-wants/, right around the time they said they want a new Fallout in 2011. Obviously, it's 2010 and there's no new Elder Scrolls game, so saying that Fallout 4 will be out in 2011 is very hard to believe.